Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

[Trigger7672]

Saw a quote from Oregeron that summed it up nicely:

"They said, 'Coach, you've got $17.1 million on your contract. We're gonna give it to you.'
"I said, 'What time do you want me to leave and what door do you want me out of, brother?'

[Third_down_draw]

If $8 to $10 million is the market now with these huge buyouts, why doesn't some team tell a coach, "We'll pay you $12 million a year but no buyout if we fire you."

Something has to change and that seems like a possible answer.  Pay a bit above market value but no buyout.  Huge pay is what gives a coach incentive to take the job, and no buyout is what keeps him hungry. If he makes it three to five years, he is set forever.

These buyouts are like getting upside down on a car and having to trade it in.  You're paying for the last car in addition to the new one and you just keep getting further behind every time you trade in.  Do it enough and eventually you're only able afford an old junker from a "Buy here, pay here" lot downtown.

You have to incur these kinds of cost to keep raising your prices - its the collegiate way.

[Hognrock]

Jimmy Sexton

I hope he trips and slides down a mountain side of rusty razor blades into a pool of rubbing alcohol, and can't swim.

[The Whyte Boar]

It's also time for a student athletics fee.  $100 per semester, a negligible amount in today's world and nothing in comparison to books and tuition, would be an extra $6 million per year in revenue for 30,000 students.  Put that money towards coaching salaries. 

[Papa Pigeritus]

Pays to be connected to Jerry's grandsons high school I see. 

And a suck up to Gus too.  And throw DeShaun Watson in there, why not?

I bet that ugly fucker has a hot wife too. 

No one from Arkansas has really seen her.

[Texzilla]

If $8 to $10 million is the market now with these huge buyouts, why doesn't some team tell a coach, "We'll pay you $12 million a year but no buyout if we fire you."

Something has to change and that seems like a possible answer.  Pay a bit above market value but no buyout.  Huge pay is what gives a coach incentive to take the job, and no buyout is what keeps him hungry. If he makes it three to five years, he is set forever.

These buyouts are like getting upside down on a car and having to trade it in.  You're paying for the last car in addition to the new one and you just keep getting further behind every time you trade in.  Do it enough and eventually you're only able afford an old junker from a "Buy here, pay here" lot downtown.

That's not the market and the only folks that would agree is some doofus that isn't worth $8m. 

We're not competing with A&M.  That might be Urban.  If we want to change we gotta move. 

[Texzilla]

Because we're fans and it's a message board where people offer their uninformed opinions. No it's not my money.


Here's some line of thinking for everyone. Or maybe just some spin.

Suddenly we are competing with A&M and State...no huge deal but next season is looking more likely that we'll be competing with nobody out of the SEC west present day. Lane could be waiting on the Bama gig. That may be a couple years away. Brian Kelly probably isn't going anywhere. Freeze just got to Auburn and barring some dead hookers he will do fine there.

Out of the East I would anticipate the Florida and South Carolina jobs opening by the end of next season. Both the Kentucky and Missouri coaches could be desired either this season or next.

So really when it comes down to who are we competing against it's always a day late and a dollar short with this college.

The next hire will cost easily 9 million per year so there's that too to have to consider.


So maybe a little patience is gonna be the

If you wait we're have issues that increase geometrically.  If Sam is on the hot seat, he cannot hire a decent OC or line coach.  We will have more decommits, and a wave will hit the exit portal. 

Time to cut bait and move on. 

[The Whyte Boar]

That's not the market and the only folks that would agree is some doofus that isn't worth $8m. 

We're not competing with A&M.  That might be Urban.  If we want to change we gotta move. 

It is the market. Ole Miss is paying Kiffen $9 million plus a year.

[egregious]

Somebody needs to convince the Waltons that Arkansas football is the wokest thing they can invest their sofa cushion money in.

[hit_that_line]

Your boy built a house. Don't short change me!

[DirkPiggler]

I hope he trips and slides down a mountain side of rusty razor blades into a pool of rubbing alcohol, and can't swim.

Not painful enough. 

[Texzilla]

It is the market. Ole Miss is paying Kiffen $9 million plus a year.

Your idea to kill the buyout to overpay a coach.  No one would accept that. Effectively a coach is on a one year deal. 

[aaron]

Did Lashlee and Gus have a major falling out a few years back, or am I misremembering?

[The Whyte Boar]

Your idea to kill the buyout to overpay a coach.  No one would accept that. Effectively a coach is on a one year deal. 

That's why you pay them more. 

[DrMongoose]

Jamey Chadwell is the guy to hire. Dude wins and has won games

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamey_Chadwell

Seriously what quality OC or position coachis gonna sign up for a tour on the sinking USS Pittman ?

[Pumpkin Escobar]

If we're going with someone from a non P5 school, then Chadwell would be a the top of my list. Traylor would be a great choice, too. This team has quit on Fat Tire Fail, you can't repair that.

[Piggielicious]

The only sure thing is the they will make the wrong decision when it comes to the football coach.

[jdcatty]

It's also time for a student athletics fee.  $100 per semester, a negligible amount in today's world and nothing in comparison to books and tuition, would be an extra $6 million per year in revenue for 30,000 students.  Put that money towards coaching salaries. 

If you charge all 30,000, yes.  But they wouldn't be able to get away with that.  Only the ones that opt in, and that wouldn't be more that 5-7k I'd bet.  Wouldn't be worth the uproar.

[The Whyte Boar]

If you charge all 30,000, yes.  But they wouldn't be able to get away with that.  Only the ones that opt in, and that wouldn't be more that 5-7k I'd bet.  Wouldn't be worth the uproar.

Why do they have to opt in?   Make it mandatory.

[RedRiverHog]

Your idea to kill the buyout to overpay a coach.  No one would accept that. Effectively a coach is on a one year deal. 

That why I suggested (in the elephant thread) my 5 year performance driven, rolling contract, no buy out. 

Pay them up front and if they putout, then they get to stay. In my mind it ain't rocket science. 

**course I ain't no rocket scientist either**