Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

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jdcatty

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 13, 2023, 09:32 PMWhy do they have to opt in?  Make it mandatory.
Because there would be thousands that object to a mandatory charge for athletics, if for no other reason than there never has been one. Believe me, they would have already done it if they thought they could get away with it.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

Spiderham

Have we become ASU already?  Student activity fees.  Get outa here with that BS.  That's what the poors of college athletics do.
Oak Grove in the house.

vegashog

the buyouts protect both the coach and the school.

get a good coach and there's always someone who will pay a higher salary, so the no buyout bites you in the ass.

it only becomes an issue when the wrong coach was hired or he flames out.


TC

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 13, 2023, 03:48 PMIt's also time for a student athletics fee.  $100 per semester, a negligible amount in today's world and nothing in comparison to books and tuition, would be an extra $6 million per year in revenue for 30,000 students.  Put that money towards coaching salaries. 

Fees are already over 20% of the subtotal for undergrads.

Maybe instead of KJ getting 5 sets of new Nikes per semester he only gets 4.

OR.....we continue to give KJ 5 sets of Nikes, DONT charge that engineering student another $100/semester, and instead just pay the fucking money.

Stop it with this shit of me having to pay more for a better product, without me ever seeing the better product. Want more money? Go win some football games, then the money will come. Stop paying these shitheads 10-15 million to go away.  Start THAT by not jizzing all over ourselves anytime a coach comes in here and wins 9 games and giving him a golden parachute to get fat and lazy.

TC

Quote from: vegashog on Nov 13, 2023, 09:38 PMthe buyouts protect both the coach and the school.

get a good coach and there's always someone who will pay a higher salary, so the no buyout bites you in the ass.

it only becomes an issue when the wrong coach was hired or he flames out.


Which begs the BIG fucking question...When was the last time someone legitimately plucked a head coach from Arkansas?

Holtz to ND?  Maybe, but you could argue that was a messy divorce and Holtz wasnt staying regardless of money. Hatfield?  Same thing...wanted out from under JFB. HDN on the plane to Nebraska was a ploy, same with Beilema to the Broncos. So, never?

Meanwhile we've been paying coaches tons of cash to stick around, who no one was really coming after. So I doubt a $100/semester FEE is going to fix our piss poor negotiators on the Hill.

Keep the buyout small. If he comes in and wins a lot, pay him per win, then worry about restructuring the buyout once they come calling. And not just after one (9) win season. Make the salary win heavy, and build the buyout up over time.

HogOfWar

Quote from: TC on Nov 13, 2023, 10:02 PMWhich begs the BIG fucking question...When was the last time someone legitimately plucked a head coach from Arkansas?

Holtz to ND?  Maybe, but you could argue that was a messy divorce and Holtz wasnt staying regardless of money. Hatfield?  Same thing...wanted out from under JFB. HDN on the plane to Nebraska was a ploy, same with Beilema to the Broncos. So, never?

Meanwhile we've been paying coaches tons of cash to stick around, who no one was really coming after. So I doubt a $100/semester FEE is going to fix our piss poor negotiators on the Hill.

Keep the buyout small. If he comes in and wins a lot, pay him per win, then worry about restructuring the buyout once they come calling. And not just after one (9) win season. Make the salary win heavy, and build the buyout up over time.

Also, put in there, that beating Texass doesn't account for anything.
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TC

Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 13, 2023, 10:05 PMAlso, put in there, that beating Texass doesn't account for anything.

Also, put in there, we're gonna get you a real boat, on a real lake.

A Bennington QX30 with twin 300's on Ouchita should do.

No more of this silly, cheap, sunfisher stuff on one of the worst lakes in the state.




Pumpkin Escobar

Quote from: TC on Nov 13, 2023, 10:02 PMWhich begs the BIG fucking question...When was the last time someone legitimately plucked a head coach from Arkansas?

Holtz to ND?  Maybe, but you could argue that was a messy divorce and Holtz wasnt staying regardless of money. Hatfield?  Same thing...wanted out from under JFB. HDN on the plane to Nebraska was a ploy, same with Beilema to the Broncos. So, never?

Meanwhile we've been paying coaches tons of cash to stick around, who no one was really coming after. So I doubt a $100/semester FEE is going to fix our piss poor negotiators on the Hill.

Keep the buyout small. If he comes in and wins a lot, pay him per win, then worry about restructuring the buyout once they come calling. And not just after one (9) win season. Make the salary win heavy, and build the buyout up over time.

Holtz didn't leave for ND. He was told to shut the hell up about politics and stick to football or leave. He left for Minnesota.
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Gambler

Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Nov 14, 2023, 12:21 AMHoltz didn't leave for ND. He was told to shut the hell up about politics and stick to football or leave. He left for Minnesota.
He left because he was burned out. A week later, he found new energy, and went to Minnesota.

Feral

Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 13, 2023, 08:06 PMSeriously what quality OC or position coachis gonna sign up for a tour on the sinking USS Pittman ?

Money aside (which is debatable), there's zero reason to bring back Pittman. Zero. Zilch.

It has almost no upside while having profound downside - fan apathy, significantly decreased attendance, reduction in donations, no coordinator worth a shit will want to come work for a lame duck coach, decent players won't want to come play for a lame duck coach, etc.

I just can't understand Yurachek's rationale for not making a move this week. And spare me the money excuse because we made $50 million last year in TV revenue and Morris is off our books this month.

buff2.0

"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Feral


buff2.0

"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

animal

Quote from: Feral on Nov 14, 2023, 05:34 AM"People who are in a position to know."

Bro what even...
humble brag or at least meant to be but in reality that guy is a clueless as they come.

It may come down to money and it may just come down to a lot of people just really like Sam and feel like this season was a clusterfuck that can be unclustered (but it can't be)
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

The Whyte Boar

Unless he goes home on his own, and I guess that is increasingly unlikely, they're going to have to oay him one way or the other.  They'll pay him his salary and then a somewhat decreased buyout if he is fired next year, or they'll pay a bigger buyout if they fire him now.  I think the difference is only something like $5 million which if course, can be spread out.  The main difference is that they could put off paying for a new coach and staff, which would be at least $10 million for another year. 

buff2.0

There is some serious knob slobbing on the gay board, as if they don't remember "I was right, but things changed."

QuoteLOTS going on behind the scenes!


Porkatarian out...
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

jdcatty

Quote from: animal on Nov 14, 2023, 06:04 AMhumble brag or at least meant to be but in reality that guy is a clueless as they come.

It may come down to money and it may just come down to a lot of people just really like Sam and feel like this season was a clusterfuck that can be unclustered (but it can't be)



Maybe clueless, maybe not.  There are people who probably do know what is going on.  Remember, as I have pointed out before, Yurachek has been silent, almost eerily so.  That tells me he is making some calls to some of those people.  For instance, I will bet John Tyson is one of them, and he has always been reported to be a big Gus supporter. 

So what Irwin says is logical.  Maybe even true.
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red death

I guess he's staying.  I guess we are the poors. 

Mississippi St beat us and fired their coach before 1 season.  That's gangster. 

We keep our guy who lost to both coaches our rivals fired.  There's no way to spin it anymore after we keep Pittman.  Our donors don't want a good program. 

It's not even on Yurachek.  We don't have the money guys. 

Sad.
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George Carlin

DrMongoose

#458
Quote from: TC on Nov 13, 2023, 10:02 PMWhich begs the BIG fucking question...When was the last time someone legitimately plucked a head coach from Arkansas?


yup, if he leaves/walks so be it. that means the program is winning and having success and quality candidates will want the job.

the better job is either a blue blood or the pros so everyone wins.

but while everyone is up in arms over Sam, It would seem no one wants to pony up what it would take to get rid of him. Why keep throwing money down the football hole when you can invest in a winner like basketball or baseball? Rich people don't stay rich because they are foolish with their money.

I was shocked no one walked up to Hunter in the stands at BWA last night and told him that Sam had to go. Everyone is now focused on hoops.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Thin Red Swine

I thought this was just a natural progression up the red palette.

We're just waiting on Alabama to make the next move.