Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

[BleedinRed]

Fine, Beard isn't a top coach.  He is the best coach Arkansas could have gotten at the moment.  Now we are talking about fucking Walker.  

[jdcatty]

Fine, Beard isn't a top coach.  He is the best coach Arkansas could have gotten at the moment.  Now we are talking about fucking Walker. 

Don't get me wrong.  I think Beard would be a great hire. I also think it would be a mistake to hire another coach who might leave in a year or two.

[piglosopher]

HY seems more interested in winning the negotiating table than winning on the field.

[Texzilla]

Lots of stories in Texas from folks that know Beard from his Texas days believe he didn't reject Arkansas but withdrew due to background check concerns over alcohol issues, multiple DV incidents. 

Regardless, fuck him.

[Hogfan58]

Lots of stories in Texas from folks that know Beard from his Texas days believe he didn't reject Arkansas but withdrew due to background check concerns over alcohol issues, multiple DV incidents. 

Regardless, fuck him.

Didn't Eddie hit the bottle when he was here? Win and nobody cares.

[animal]

Same ole same ole. Muss leaves and suddenly the local beat guys are saying he was sniffing panties every year he was here, but not a peep while he was still coach. Didn't get Beard...it was over "concerns" and non-competes. Didn't get Tang...clearly he's retarded.

So a couple of things here. 

Florida went young with Todd Golden. He's a good one, made his way on the west coast circuit. He replaced Mike White which was a total WTF hire for them. Bama went young with Nate Oats, was that coming off Avery fucking Johnson? 

Lots of schools have went young in recent years. There just aren't a lot of guys willing to move on from the P5 gigs especially in seasons where there doesn't look like a lot of bidding wars for coaches.

These coaching searches for Arkansas always go the same way regardless of the AD. Agents know Arkansas is an easy pay check and the people they represent don't even have to move! In fairness our last two basketball hires have been reasonably accomplished head coaches...we're due for either a dud or a younger less accomplished hire. This just happened to be a real bad time for that.


We're going to have to hire a retread, a formerly disgraced (Marshall or Wade), or go for a younger dude. I aint scared of Wade...if our BOT rejects that based on "what it looks like" then I say we go for whomever does the best in interviews and has a fairly good mid-major track record. #trusttheprocess

[animal]

https://apnews.com/article/ncaa-infractions-lsu-will-wade-iarp-05bf7c912298a4c8fe0bb1fa4189e94a


Read this and tell me Wade is a realistic choice. Unless things have changed since this article I cannot fathom Arkansas hiring this guy.

[animal]

More names to toss against the wall...I'm not done yet. I feel like if I post enough maybe the ChatGPT search firm will spider this information back to headquarters.

Bryan Hodgson was on the Oats staff at Bama and Buffalo, current A-State coach. Got them to 20 wins in Year 1. Maybe a bit young for the prime time but could be a guy moving up the ladder.

Mark Pope...maybe time to get him a raise too.

Daniyal Robinson (think he worked under Moser as well as played under him) Known as an excellent recruiter.

Josh Schertz (Indiana State) fixing to be Saint Louis coach

Keith Smart (if we're down to this shit maybe give Smart a shot?)

Bucky McMillan (Samford)

Amir Abdur-Rahim (South Florida 25 wins year 1), built Kennesaw State into...something

Ryan Odom (VCU) moving up the ranks, son of Dave Odom who was a long time head coach.

[DRYANKNPULL]

I am not sure I disagree with him on the non-compete clause.  If you signed him without one, and he left for KY, most of you would be saying he should have had one.

It's unfortunate that the board at large isn't as smart or enlightened as you and Yuracheck.

[Trigger7672]

It's unfortunate that the board at large isn't as smart or enlightened as you and Yuracheck.

There are a few people on this board who refuse to admit Yurachek is a fucking disaster.

[animal]

It's unfortunate that the board at large isn't as smart or enlightened as you and Yuracheck.

I would tend to believe a non-compete within conference is pretty standard but maybe not. Didn't Muss have a non-compete with everyone but his alma-mater? How'd that work out

[jdcatty]

It's unfortunate that the board at large isn't as smart or enlightened as you and Yuracheck.

Tell me I am wrong. Tell me you would be fine with Beard coming to Arkansas for one year, maybe two, and then leaving for KY. 

And I don't really know anything about an alcohol issue, so I am not even taking that into consideration.

[jdcatty]

I would tend to believe a non-compete within conference is pretty standard but maybe not. Didn't Muss have a non-compete with everyone but his alma-mater? How'd that work out

Worked out pretty well for 5 years.  And USC isn't his Alma-mater.

[animal]

Worked out pretty well for 5 years.  And USC isn't his Alma-mater.

I wasn't implying that it was

[BleedinRed]

Don't get me wrong.  I think Beard would be a great hire. I also think it would be a mistake to hire another coach who might leave in a year or two.

I agree. But let's face it, Arkansas isn't a destination job anymore.  We are a stepping stone to most coaches.   We can't worry about what happens in 2 years.  We need to win next year.  Whoever can do that should be hired.   

Look at our current situation. We kept Muss for 5 years, had 3 sweet 16s and 2 elite 8s, and we are an absolute dumpster fire that no one of quality wants to come to now.  

[BleedinRed]

Clarifying my stepping stone comment: there are less than 10 schools nationally that can realistically get and keep a coach for more than 5 years.  Arkansas ain't one of those for a multitude of reasons.  That isn't a knock on Arkansas.   It just is what it is.   

Go get the best guy you can get.  Period.  

[The Whyte Boar]

Well, let's see.  We have about two players who are returning next year.  We got very publicly dumped by our coach.  We have one of the better coaches in the game who wants our job.  We have big money boosters who want that coach and who are willing to open up the NIL coffers for him, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY WE WILL FIELD A DECENT TEAM NEXT YEAR.  The portal opens up in a week if we don't have a coach by then, and one that excites both recruits and the fans and their money, we're fucked.

You know all that and you have a guy ready to sign up, and you blow it all up over a noncompete clause. 

[animal]

I agree. But let's face it, Arkansas isn't a destination job anymore.  We are a stepping stone to most coaches.  We can't worry about what happens in 2 years.  We need to win next year.  Whoever can do that should be hired. 

Look at our current situation. We kept Muss for 5 years, had 3 sweet 16s and 2 elite 8s, and we are an absolute dumpster fire that no one of quality wants to come to now. 

That's a very prisoner of the moment kind of mentality.

I think whenever a coach voluntarily leaves for a lateral at best job after a successful run it's going to give coaches pause, add in the HY flub up and you'll have your situations where the best available aren't beating down the door.  NIL could very well be THE Problem as it seems to be an issue at various schools that suddenly dropped like a rock or it could be the tiny Arkansuk mentality creeping in from the fragile fan base.

My feelings on the matter haven't really changed much. I felt like Muss would have stayed at Arkansas until he decided he wasn't likely to win a championship here. I think conference teams had him figured out. The refs weren't going to listen to his midget ass barking at them. He's going to go to the Big 10 and probably get his ass handed to him though but he'll have another clock of 5 years or so and sunny stinky SOCAL. By then he'll be looking at nearing retirement age

Like most of these searches I think you can probably believe about 50% (or less) of what is being reported. That means Beard was real at the interest on UA's part. I can totally believe the UA people thought they had it in the bag. Walker's interest in the UA is probably real and he probably did get a courtesy minority interview special. Tang was a name everyone on here was ok with a week ago and yesterday suddenly he was trash. I can believe he wasn't really a target and invented by the beat writers for clickbait. His agent used all that shit and got that guy a raise...that's what agents do.

Is HY completely out of his element? We'll find out with this hire. Maybe we go cheap knowing there is a strong chance we have to go big on a football search by the fall. If that's the case I'm betting HY isn't the one shopping.

[BleedinRed]

I think it is important to note that we don't know if the NC even was real.  

[Hogfan58]

Clarifying my stepping stone comment: there are less than 10 schools nationally that can realistically get and keep a coach for more than 5 years.  Arkansas ain't one of those for a multitude of reasons.  That isn't a knock on Arkansas.  It just is what it is. 

Go get the best guy you can get.  Period. 

CFN has an article today about the top 50 basketball schools. The criteria they used were 20 win seasons and NC's. We ranked #23. Illinois was just ahead of us. Also ahead of us were Okie St (20), Utah (T18), Memphis (17), ND (13) and BYU (11). Top 10 were obvious.