Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

Started by animal, Mar 08, 2023, 07:47 PM

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egregious

Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 06, 2024, 10:00 AMName a coach at random, if he kicked enough ass here and Kentucky was looking to hire a coach in two years it's highly likely they would come after that coach. Worrying about Beard going to Kentucky in two years is a dopey argument for not wanting Beard.

Didn't Nolan come right after Eddie crawled to Lexington?  Let's do the 2020's version of that.
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The Whyte Boar

NIL IS NOT the problem with the NCAA and their rules.  It is explicitly why they resisted it and had such strict rules for amateurism for so long.  They knew, and really anyone with a brain should have known, that once that door was opened it would very quickly end up where we are. 

The problem was that the NCAA product got so successful and there was so much money in the sport, it became too much of a dichotomy between massive television deals, coaching salaries, and gold plated facilities verses relatively poor athletes from mostly impoverished backgrounds. 

Too Big Pig

The Beard to KY arguement is weak. I admit I used to think that way in hiring about trying to land someone who was going to stay. Later my boss explained to me this way, "would you rather..."

A. Have the best hire, other people want him, and you have to work hard to keep him for as long as you can

B. Have a mediocre hire, that nobody else wants, and you work hard to get rid of him when you get tired of average.
"When life gives you lemons...fuck life"
- Sir John Michael of Oklahoma

animal

Quote from: Too Big Pig on Apr 06, 2024, 12:03 PMThe Beard to KY arguement is weak. I admit I used to think that way in hiring about trying to land someone who was going to stay. Later my boss explained to me this way, "would you rather..."

A. Have the best hire, other people want him, and you have to work hard to keep him for as long as you can

B. Have a mediocre hire, that nobody else wants, and you work hard to get rid of him when you get tired of average.

It's far more likely Beard will opt to wait on the Kentucky job where he will compete with someone like Oats and perhaps some other hot name by then. May be his reason for not moving but also having just moved it's a bit of a deal to keep uprooting for what he may view as a lateral job.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Barton Fink

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I'd take Oats over Beard.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: flash23 on Apr 06, 2024, 10:05 AMI can see not wanting 2 coaches leaving you for another school two years apart, one being an inferior USC. Kentucky makes sense, but not USC.

USC makes sense for Musselman & family, personally. Basketball wise, if he takes them to ONE Sweet Sixteen he's a hero.

Has anyone monitored the athletic department incoming mail to see if Greg Gard has written?

animal

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 06, 2024, 12:42 PMUSC makes sense for Musselman & family, personally. Basketball wise, if he takes them to ONE Sweet Sixteen he's a hero.

Has anyone monitored the athletic department incoming mail to see if Greg Gard has written?
Greg Gard I'd take right about now. We'd at least make it to some Texas Bowls.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Jostlyn mcCocksack

Quote from: animal on Apr 06, 2024, 12:54 PMGreg Gard I'd take right about now. We'd at least make it to some Texas Bowls.


There are a lot of guys i would take right now....It is not like Beard is the be all end all of coaching.....and yes, I think he does a great job.....

McDermott if he would consider leaving Creighton...good hire
Gard if he would consider leaving Whiskey....although the Razorback contingent may keel over when they see a team run a structured offense with ball reversal.....


bigpig

Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 06, 2024, 12:41 PMI'd take Oats over Beard.

Doesn't matter what you'd take. Oats wouldn't take us
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dhog

Quote from: Jostlyn mcCocksack on Apr 06, 2024, 01:27 PMThere are a lot of guys i would take right now....It is not like Beard is the be all end all of coaching.....and yes, I think he does a great job.....

McDermott if he would consider leaving Creighton...good hire
Gard if he would consider leaving Whiskey....although the Razorback contingent may keel over when they see a team run a structured offense with ball reversal.....



If that's the case please let it be Gard!

PorkyPig


Barton Fink

Quote from: bigpig on Apr 06, 2024, 01:37 PMDoesn't matter what you'd take. Oats wouldn't take us


Oh I know. I meant if KY opened up.

animal

Who you got? I'm talking no bull shit coaches we could land.


Me: (no particular order but ordered anyway) You ever notice how it's never any coach we ever name on these lists?

1. Lamont Paris
2. Will Wade
3. Buck McMillian
4. Greg Gard (has a brother he just hired to his staff...I mean that's practically a requirement at Ark)
5. Shakka Smart
6. Lon Kruger's boy





"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

DrMongoose

Quote from: jdcatty on Apr 06, 2024, 08:47 AMTell me I am wrong. Tell me you would be fine with Beard coming to Arkansas for one year, maybe two, and then leaving for KY. 

And I don't really know anything about an alcohol issue, so I am not even taking that into consideration.

Yes, I would be fine. If he is winning enough to be attractive to them then we are in good shape
Check your damn blood pressure!

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Barton Fink

Quote from: animal on Apr 06, 2024, 02:37 PMWho you got? I'm talking no bull shit coaches we could land.


Me: (no particular order but ordered anyway) You ever notice how it's never any coach we ever name on these lists?

1. Lamont Paris
2. Will Wade
3. Buck McMillian
4. Greg Gard (has a brother he just hired to his staff...I mean that's practically a requirement at Ark)
5. Shakka Smart
6. Lon Kruger's boy







I don't get the love for McMillan. What am I missing?

rzrbkfan69

Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 06, 2024, 08:32 PMI don't get the love for McMillan. What am I missing?

Style of play.

Barton Fink

I'll have to watch them. Resume feels like Heath 2.0.

Too Big Pig

Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 06, 2024, 08:55 PMI'll have to watch them. Resume feels like Heath 2.0.

Same. Guy was literally a high school coach for years and has 4 years college experience.  That being said, he has improved them each year.

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I guess the same possible trajectory as Nate Oats. High school coach, 4 years at Buffalo, and now in the final 4 with Alabama.
"When life gives you lemons...fuck life"
- Sir John Michael of Oklahoma

rzrbkfan69

Go find the tourney game this year when they played Kansas. Got robbed at the end by the refs.

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