Portal 2023-24

[vegashog]

addison nichols o-lineman from tennessee commits. was the #8 interior lineman in the 2022 class, will play center.

[animal]

addison nichols o-lineman from tennessee commits. was the #8 interior lineman in the 2022 class, will play center.

OH NO WE SUCK 4 SHO NOW

[Barton Fink]

https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1737257037560525099?t=UzahcnMd8AIyPBA4C6qQCw&s=19

[aaron]

Word is that Chandler Morris has entered the portal. Further word is KJ to TCU.

[bigpig]

https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/1737257037560525099?t=UzahcnMd8AIyPBA4C6qQCw&s=19

Is our strategy to focus our NIL money on defense and just hope Petrino can make chicken salad out of a thin and untalented offense? If we succeed, Sam keeps his job. If we fail, it'll probably be because of the offense, so Sam can point the finger at Bobby on his way out the door. Is that the plan?

Nah. We're just flailing and occasionally landing one good player for every three we lose.

[Gambler]

Where does NIL money come from for Mizz and Ole Miss?  Seem to be rolling in it.

[bigpig]

Where does NIL money come from for Mizz and Ole Miss?  Seem to be rolling in it.

They have fewer "rich super fans" than we do, but the few they have are more committed to spending their money on football.

[animal]

Is our strategy to focus our NIL money on defense and just hope Petrino can make chicken salad out of a thin and untalented offense? If we succeed, Sam keeps his job. If we fail, it'll probably be because of the offense, so Sam can point the finger at Bobby on his way out the door. Is that the plan?

Nah. We're just flailing and occasionally landing one good player for every three we lose.

From what I'm seeing the criticism here seems a bit unfounded. No we aren't landing a Who's Who list of guys but we are landing some need positions.

We have added 3 offensive linemen addressing need positions and probably not done there. 
We have added a QB and presumably will work with our other QBs already on the roster. 
We landed a linebacker but need more halp
We have addressed our kicker/punter roles by landing a Hawaii kicker and also brought back the Veto kid from a couple years ago.
We added an experienced defensive back

The bulk of the WRs/TEs that played this past season are going to be back and beyond that I'm going to trust the process that some of these young kids are going to want to come play for Petrino once guys start to see how this roster is coming together. Looks like Dozier will be staying I figure he actually get used.

Yes we need some DTs, Edge rusher(s), more OLs, probably add a running back to the group.

People need to calm their tits this portal stuff goes on a long time and this is just the first phase of it. They'll be a new portal season during the spring/early summer.

[Show-Me Hog]

From what I'm seeing the criticism here seems a bit unfounded. No we aren't landing a Who's Who list of guys but we are landing some need positions.

We have added 3 offensive linemen addressing need positions and probably not done there.
We have added a QB and presumably will work with our other QBs already on the roster.
We landed a linebacker but need more halp
We have addressed our kicker/punter roles by landing a Hawaii kicker and also brought back the Veto kid from a couple years ago.
We added an experienced defensive back

The bulk of the WRs/TEs that played this past season are going to be back and beyond that I'm going to trust the process that some of these young kids are going to want to come play for Petrino once guys start to see how this roster is coming together. Looks like Dozier will be staying I figure he actually get used.

Yes we need some DTs, Edge rusher(s), more OLs, probably add a running back to the group.

People need to calm their tits this portal stuff goes on a long time and this is just the first phase of it. They'll be a new portal season during the spring/early summer.

Stop being rational, man. That has no place here.

[piglosopher]

Drinkwitz may have blew his wad on our #1 recruit in the state, but nothing is ever changing that he's got a duggarface.

[Hognrock]

That's the look of a man that got paid 10 million plus to beat Portland State, Colorado State, Eastern Illinois, and Tulsa.

I mean, cover charge to club dub @ 2.5mil each for rent a wins is a steal. 

For whoever said next year would be Morris like level, I call bullshit. That mf'er (Morris) shouldn't be allowed to teach elementary school PE.

[DirkPiggler]

Where does NIL money come from for Mizz and Ole Miss?  Seem to be rolling in it.

They do a better job of getting money from the "middle class rich" - small business owners and such - where we seem to focus on hitting up the major corporations.  NIL contributions are effectively a vanity purchase...a "look what I can afford to do thing"...or a spend where you know you aren't getting ROI for your business but you're doing it out of concern for the program.  Walmart, Tyson, etc. can't justify giving significant sums to college athletes who only deliver promotional value in a very limited area, if at all. 

Because schools like Ole Miss don't have the major corporations to rely on for funding, they've always been better at cultivating the guy who owns the local tractor dealership, plumbing company, or used car lot, or the friendly neighborhood personal injury lawyer.  A lot of those people have what most of us would consider fuck you money, and will spend some of it to help their favorite team. 

[jdcatty]

They do a better job of getting money from the "middle class rich" - small business owners and such - where we seem to focus on hitting up the major corporations.  NIL contributions are effectively a vanity purchase...a "look what I can afford to do thing"...or a spend where you know you aren't getting ROI for your business but you're doing it out of concern for the program.  Walmart, Tyson, etc. can't justify giving significant sums to college athletes who only deliver promotional value in a very limited area, if at all. 

Because schools like Ole Miss don't have the major corporations to rely on for funding, they've always been better at cultivating the guy who owns the local tractor dealership, plumbing company, or used car lot, or the friendly neighborhood personal injury lawyer.  A lot of those people have what most of us would consider fuck you money, and will spend some of it to help their favorite team. 

I agree with the premise that they get more from the "middle class rich" but I am not so sure about the idea that we depend on "major corporations" to fund our NIL programs.  Fact is, I doubt seriously the publicly traded corporations like Walmart and Tysons donate much, if any, to NIL.  They can't justify major expenses for that to their shareholders, who are nationwide or worldwide.

Sure they can pay to have their names slapped on the stadium, like Walmart, and John Tyson-- individually-- can do whatever in the hell he wants, but direct contributions from the corporations to NIL? I doubt it. 

Somebody can correct me with real facts, if they have them.

[DirkPiggler]

I agree with the premise that they get more from the "middle class rich" but I am not so sure about the idea that we depend on "major corporations" to fund our NIL programs.  Fact is, I doubt seriously the publicly traded corporations like Walmart and Tysons donate much, if any, to NIL.  They can't justify major expenses for that to their shareholders, who are nationwide or worldwide.

Sure they can pay to have their names slapped on the stadium, like Walmart, and John Tyson-- individually-- can do whatever in the hell he wants, but direct contributions from the corporations to NIL? I doubt it. 

Somebody can correct me with real facts, if they have them.

I agree, that was my point.  Corporations can't justify giving money to athletes in one market who have zero marketing value outside of that area.  It doesn't matter how much Doug McMillon or John Furner love the Razorbacks...their board and shareholders of Walmart aren't going to tolerate them spending corporate funds on what would essentially be a personal expense. 

I think we have relied on those corporate entities (and their execs' personal spending) to fund the athletic department for so long that we aren't equipped or prepared to do it any other way, which a thriving NIL program necessitates.  Schools like Ole Miss, Miss State, and even Auburn haven't had those massive public corporations in their backyard, so they've had to cultivate the folks like I mentioned in the above post.  It's a big factor in why their facilities pale in comparison to ours, but their NIL is kicking our ass.  It's also why they were better able to cheat in recruiting for so long before buying players outright became illegal.

Let's be honest...the ROI for NIL spending is shit, unless you're a small mom and pop retail who is paying Devo, Hagen Smith, or KJ (pre-portal) to come sign autographs for a day.  Those kinds of events aren't moving the needle.

[AporkalypseNow]

Word is that Chandler Morris has entered the portal. Further word is KJ to TCU.

They had a really good freshman QB this year that beat out Morris, wouldn't make a ton of sense.

Hell, if they get KJ and bench him we should take him.

[jdcatty]

I agree, that was my point.  Corporations can't justify giving money to athletes in one market who have zero marketing value outside of that area.  It doesn't matter how much Doug McMillon or John Furner love the Razorbacks...their board and shareholders of Walmart aren't going to tolerate them spending corporate funds on what would essentially be a personal expense. 

I think we have relied on those corporate entities (and their execs' personal spending) to fund the athletic department for so long that we aren't equipped or prepared to do it any other way, which a thriving NIL program necessitates.  Schools like Ole Miss, Miss State, and even Auburn haven't had those massive public corporations in their backyard, so they've had to cultivate the folks like I mentioned in the above post.  It's a big factor in why their facilities pale in comparison to ours, but their NIL is kicking our ass.  It's also why they were better able to cheat in recruiting for so long before buying players outright became illegal.

Let's be honest...the ROI for NIL spending is shit, unless you're a small mom and pop retail who is paying Devo, Hagen Smith, or KJ (pre-portal) to come sign autographs for a day.  Those kinds of events aren't moving the needle.

The difference is, I don't think the corporate entities ever have.  The guys like John Tyson individually, Johnelle Hunt individually, and the Walker family individually, have supported the program.

[Mazeppa Pompazoidi]

Where does NIL money come from for Mizz and Ole Miss?  Seem to be rolling in it.

They do a better job of getting money from the "middle class rich" - small business owners and such - where we seem to focus on hitting up the major corporations.  NIL contributions are effectively a vanity purchase...a "look what I can afford to do thing"...or a spend where you know you aren't getting ROI for your business but you're doing it out of concern for the program.  Walmart, Tyson, etc. can't justify giving significant sums to college athletes who only deliver promotional value in a very limited area, if at all. 

Because schools like Ole Miss don't have the major corporations to rely on for funding, they've always been better at cultivating the guy who owns the local tractor dealership, plumbing company, or used car lot, or the friendly neighborhood personal injury lawyer.  A lot of those people have what most of us would consider fuck you money, and will spend some of it to help their favorite team. 

I agree with the premise that they get more from the "middle class rich" but I am not so sure about the idea that we depend on "major corporations" to fund our NIL programs.  Fact is, I doubt seriously the publicly traded corporations like Walmart and Tysons donate much, if any, to NIL.  They can't justify major expenses for that to their shareholders, who are nationwide or worldwide.

Sure they can pay to have their names slapped on the stadium, like Walmart, and John Tyson-- individually-- can do whatever in the hell he wants, but direct contributions from the corporations to NIL? I doubt it. 

Somebody can correct me with real facts, if they have them.

I think the difference is pretty simple.  Methouri and Ole Piss are coming off really good seasons that would have landed both in a 12 team playoff.  That loosens up a lot of purse strings.  Arkansas' NIL program would be rolling in dough if we had done the same.

[DirkPiggler]

I think the difference is pretty simple.  Methouri and Ole Piss are coming off really good seasons that would have landed both in a 12 team playoff.  That loosens up a lot of purse strings.  Arkansas' NIL program would be rolling in dough if we had done the same.

But when the NIL got started, we were coming off 9-4 and a NYD bowl win.  Ole Miss had a similar year.  Missouri went 6-6 and lost their bowl.  It's not as simple as wins/losses, although the momentum is probably a factor.  We've done a terrible job of putting together a program relative to those schools.

[The Whyte Boar]

It's leadership and no, we're not serious. 

Ole Miss went big and hired the best candidate they could find and didn't pinch pennies.  Now, they've experience success and have money to burn relatively speaking.

Our leadership tried to pinch pennies and got butthurt when our top candidate made more push for a little more money and let Ole Miss swoop in and take him.  We saved our pennies and hired a guy who had never been a head coach. We are now cash strapped because people don't want to pay big money for a crap product.

By the way, the same butthurt and penny pinching attitude sent Briles down the road when one of his best friends made a run at him and caused the meltdown we had this past year.

Serious programs don't pinch veritable pennies when they are dealing with something that has $170 million a year in revenue.

And speaking to the point above about NIL, serious programs don't appoint ex athletes with virtually no qualifications except being ex athletes to run their NIL programs.

Hell, for that matter serious programs don't promote a lawyer who made a cut and paste error on a  contract that cost the foundation millions of dollars to head of their fundraising foundation.

I love Arkansas but we absolutely deserve a lot of the shit we get.

[hit_that_line]

They are running deficits. They don't have money to burn. Something will change or schools will be playing in stadiums that are falling apart.