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Hognrock · Mar 27, 2024, 05:56 PM

This is my biggest issue. I'm fine with players making money (which they were back in the day just under the table), but a 5th year senior being at his 5th different school shouldn't happen.

DirkPiggler · Mar 27, 2024, 06:25 PM

Agreed with both you and @Barton Fink.

Unlimited transferring without penalty is far more damaging than being outbid.

Thin Red Swine · Mar 27, 2024, 07:29 PM

Weren't you paying attention? We are too broke ass to even make the playoffs of tax evasion, much less get to its Super Bowl.

mde114 · Mar 28, 2024, 08:11 AM

How many contributors are currently in the NIL program?

With a goal of 5000, I'd guess the current number to be < 2000.

Trigger7672 · Mar 28, 2024, 08:18 AM

Does all of this NIL, transfer portal stuff make anyone else want to just stop supporting college athletics altogether? I'm getting to that point.

dhog · Mar 28, 2024, 08:26 AM

Yes, especially when there's so much other things to do and spend money on. I'm a lifelong Fayettevillian and a alum of the UofA and I'm proud of that but there's other things that have my interests and are more important. That's said after spending 20+ years tailgating every home game, spending money on tailgate trailers and equipment, season tickets for football, basketball, baseball. Two years ago we made the decision to drop it all and spend time at the river, with the grands, traveling, ect. and we have not missed it at all. Still love my Hogs but.

mde114 · Mar 28, 2024, 08:27 AM

Yes. Knowing your athletic department is bottom tier will do that to you.

buff2.0 · Mar 28, 2024, 08:29 AM

The unlimited transfers, super-seniors, 6 year players... absolutely. Especially with basketball.

PHARMHOG · Mar 28, 2024, 09:38 AM

Very much.

Hard to develop an interest in fly-by players.

The significant basketball roster turnover annually really sucks.

The football program is just shitty and asking the public for money takes some gumption.

Third_down_draw · Mar 28, 2024, 09:57 AM

It feels like the transfer portal killed the spirit of the game but sucking sweaty donkey balls is probably what we are feeling most around here.

BleedinRed · Mar 28, 2024, 10:41 AM

College basketball was on the way down anyway. NIL helped kill what was left.

A few teams typically had one player that was a one-and-done. All NIL did was encourage and facilitate the bigger schools having 5 players that are one-and-done.

But, I've really been done with college athletics, specifically Arkansas (other than baseball), since 4/1/12.

animal · Mar 28, 2024, 10:48 AM

When you turn something that looks closer to a shitty semi pro league don't get all surprised when people begin to treat it as such.

I wouldn't waste money on it.

The part that people love about college athletics has been completely ripped away. There is no loyalty. There is no progression in following a kid from start to finish. The kid wants to be paid understandably but how they managed to bikeshed this off onto the viewing public and go oh darn we can't spend that money from the gate and TV revenue is a total crock of shit.

Lurk · Mar 28, 2024, 12:24 PM

It used to be that you could look out 2 years and see hope in younger players maturing and being badasses. Now you know they'll be badasses somewhere else.

I'm done. Arkansas sports are cursed.

DrMongoose · Mar 28, 2024, 11:30 PM

shit could be getting real..... and now the conferences could be on the hook also for $$$.

https://x.com/ByBerkowitz/status/1773315236071604264?s=20

obijuana · Mar 28, 2024, 11:46 PM

We either get the best coaches money can buy to "coach up" lesser talent that gets no NIL money, or spend out the ass for the best players and have coaches with low salaries. We can't have both.

As of now we have overpaid and ineffective coaches who can't coach up lesser players.

Feral · Mar 29, 2024, 06:10 AM

Yes.

The current model in college athletics is completely untenable, and has significantly diminished my fandom. My name is on the sidewalk at UA, but now - to quote Jerry Seinfeld - it feels like we're "just rooting for laundry" as opposed to college athletes who are taking the same classes and walking the same halls I did. Maybe that idea was always a sham, but I like the illusion instead of the purely transactional relationship it has devolved into.

The economics of coaching contracts are absolutely fucked and unsustainable. You have to pay a coach big money just to hire him, pay him more money if he has a good season, yet you can't fire him if he starts sucking because you're pot committed with a one-sided buyout. When a guy like Billy Napier is making $7 million a year starting out at Florida, you know the sport has jumped the shark.

There's no governance for NIL, the portal, coach or player tampering, etc, which has created the chaos conditions we see today. Players don't give a shit about a university or even winning, they just want a bag. Go listen to Saban's comments during the recent Congressional committee — even his wife was like "fuck this, I don't want to do this anymore" because all recruits' parents wanted to talk to her about was how much money they were going to get.

I've actually found myself becoming more of a fan of the pro sports leagues. At least they have collectively bargained agreements governing contracts, tampering, procedure, etc. and centralized oversight to enforce them.

If college sports are going to devolve into being shitty semi-pro leagues with no parity, no oversight, no governance, and no collective bargaining, why would I follow that when I can watch the real thing that has all of those guardrails plus better athletes?

hit_that_line · Mar 29, 2024, 06:52 AM

What the hell are academic achievement payments? Most of these fuckers can't read or write.

The Whyte Boar · Mar 29, 2024, 08:06 AM

I said when this started with the California legislature that the purpose was not to compensate athletes but to destroy something that had become sort of a bedrock of traditional American life...particularly straight white males...especially in the South. And that is surely the result.

Usafhawg · Mar 29, 2024, 08:22 AM

I'm trying to understand what you're saying...

O'Bannon filed the lawsuit to screw over the white man, not to get paid himself? Is that what you're saying?

Show-Me Hog · Mar 29, 2024, 08:24 AM

Username.