NIL

Started by Usafhawg, Mar 27, 2024, 01:02 PM

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Cerdo

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Apr 01, 2024, 07:47 PMEither there's no way this is true, or we got the worst ROI in human history.
I think a big part of our problem is that a ton of our very wealthy boosters didn't really get rich because they had brains as much as they worked at Walmart early on and rode the train or just inherited a bunch of property that suddenly exploded.  They like the newfound wealth and the access/status it brings but they're just lottery winners.

Lurk

Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 19, 2024, 08:35 PMWe seem to have lit the flame on NIL. I've seen more chatter about NIL amounts the last few days than I can remember.
I was thinking the same thing. As lowly as we are, we've scrambled up college sports as much as anyone. SEC move and now this.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

DrMongoose

Quote from: jdcatty on May 21, 2024, 09:42 AMhttps://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1792928020321189943


This is the first (at least that I have seen) of what I predict will be many lawsuits over NIL deals gone bad.

I can't believe those numbers,  even Jerry Jones says that is a stupid deal.

Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

BleedinRed

Quote from: Cerdo on May 21, 2024, 11:24 AMI think a big part of our problem is that a ton of our very wealthy boosters didn't really get rich because they had brains as much as they worked at Walmart early on and rode the train or just inherited a bunch of property that suddenly exploded.  They like the newfound wealth and the access/status it brings but they're just lottery winners.

I doubt that is unique to Arkansas rich people.  

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Cerdo on May 21, 2024, 11:24 AMI think a big part of our problem is that a ton of our very wealthy boosters didn't really get rich because they had brains as much as they worked at Walmart early on and rode the train or just inherited a bunch of property that suddenly exploded.  They like the newfound wealth and the access/status it brings but they're just lottery winners.

Another part is that so many of their wealth and/or income is tied to publicly traded corporations.  Ole Miss for example doesn't have the kind of corporations backing them that we do.  They have always had to rely on farmers, car dealers, PI lawyers, and other relatively self-made business people.  Those kinds of people can put their money into something with no business return either out of desire to see the program win, vanity, or a combination of the two.  Walmart can't justify a national deal with KJ Jefferson or Rocket Sanders to their shareholders.  Sean Tuohy or the guy with 10,000 acres of productive farm land don't have that constraint. 

Looking back, this is almost certainly a big reason why Jim Lindsey had so much influence in the program in spite of others donating more.  He was self-made and financed, and could take care of needs "off the books" that our Walmart millionaires could not.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Show-Me Hog



DrMongoose

How long before it is wrapped around a tree?

And how is the rep getting paid and by whom?

https://x.com/on3nil/status/1798812360787796230?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

vegashog

the sponsor pays his agent.

the kid gets a lease and the agent gets some cash.

jdcatty

Just talked to a friend that I have known for a long time.  He now lives in Bentonville and is a member at The Blessings. He said he recently played in the Member-Guest tournament there.  Apparently at dinner Tyson stood up and introduced Calipari to the crowd.  Then said "I'll be contacting every one of you and asking you for a check" (for the NIL).
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

Son of Spam

Quote from: DrMongoose on Jun 06, 2024, 08:29 PMHow long before it is wrapped around a tree?

And how is the rep getting paid and by whom?

https://x.com/on3nil/status/1798812360787796230?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A
That looks like a hog wrap on that car.
Well, shit...

Usafhawg

Quote from: Son of Spam on Jun 07, 2024, 11:33 AMThat looks like a hog wrap on that car.

Hellcat

Corn Pop

Here's a good article from Rick Fires in today's ADG about a 15-year-old quarterback from Evangel Christian in Shreveport signing an NIL deal with Leaf Trading Cards.

http://nwa.pressreader.com/article/7459516396414438
I really don't care, Margaret.

DrMongoose

Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

BleedinRed

Interesting that Alex is exited about "exploring" ways for the athletes to maximize NIL.  

Think he will be learning on the job or does he have actual ideas?

Cardiac Hog

From Arkansas Online:

"Arkansas Edge launched a drive for 5,000 Edge members in March. According to the collective's website, 782 have signed up for memberships that range from $25-$250 per month and $250-$2,500 per year."

Cardiac Hog

Based on those numbers, I doubt the Edge is even bringing in enough in monthly membership fees to cover Edge staff payroll. 

animal

https://arkansasedgenil.com/pages/our-team

I don't have the time right now to get into it but I'd be curious how other schools are filling out there NIL collective staffs. I feel like most of these people are are a bit green which goes toward the idea that it's not being funded very well at all. less than a 1000 members even after hiring Cal is pretty much a fucking joke. But I think it's also just a sign that money is tight.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

mde114

Quote from: Cardiac Hog on Jul 16, 2024, 08:15 PMFrom Arkansas Online:

"Arkansas Edge launched a drive for 5,000 Edge members in March. According to the collective's website, 782 have signed up for memberships that range from $25-$250 per month and $250-$2,500 per year."


Embarrassing.

DrMongoose

Quote from: animal on Jul 17, 2024, 06:42 AMhttps://arkansasedgenil.com/pages/our-team

I don't have the time right now to get into it but I'd be curious how other schools are filling out there NIL collective staffs. I feel like most of these people are are a bit green which goes toward the idea that it's not being funded very well at all. less than a 1000 members even after hiring Cal is pretty much a fucking joke. But I think it's also just a sign that money is tight.

agreed - money is tight.

I would also argue that

1) people aren't buying the pay to play concept which is free money for players with no return or expectations. (would you run a business this way?)

2) the athletic department has now priced out the lower income loyal fan on which JFB built the program, the old time money folks JFB could get checks from when needed have died or are not as connected, the new money folks have no connection or concern for the program but do want the social status of the gucci seats, etc.

3) Football hasn't down squat since the Cotton Bowl vs K-State. 23-25 overall with 11-23 vs the SEC the last four years combined with the in-state recruits leaving doesn't inspire confidence or hope.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25