NIL

[Lurk]

Love it. 

ADs and coaches won't directly call out fans for not contributing to NIL but they will call out local businesses for not taking a portion of what they make off the fans (and non fans) and contributing that money to the program. 

I will never contribute to NIL and won't do business with a business who does.   If that means Arkansas sucks for eternity then so be it. 

College athletics is a billion dollar industry.  When "they" show where all the money is going and coaches stop getting half a billion in buy out monies then I'll care again. 

The system is beyond stupid.  Fans have helped create it. 

I asked grok and it said 13-14 billion for football and 5 billion for basketball.

[FNG]

Love it. 

ADs and coaches won't directly call out fans for not contributing to NIL but they will call out local businesses for not taking a portion of what they make off the fans (and non fans) and contributing that money to the program. 

I will never contribute to NIL and won't do business with a business who does.  If that means Arkansas sucks for eternity then so be it. 

Now, get off my lawn!

College athletics is a billion dollar industry.  When "they" show where all the money is going and coaches stop getting half a billion in buy out monies then I'll care again. 

The system is beyond stupid.  Fans have helped create it. 

Speaking from the perspective of a Boomer (sorry HTL), all the charm and appeal of college sports is gone. There was a time when nearly every HS football player in America dreamed of someday playing for the "home team" and those lucky few that accomplished that goal were heroes in their home towns. Fans became invested in their favorite players as the players matured and excelled over the 3-4 years they represented the university. As corny as it sounds, school pride was the primary motivating factor in every Saturday game.

For whatever reasons, DI collegiate football has become the minor league of the NFL and I don't see how this genie can ever be put back in the bottle. Thanks to the current portal rules (or lack thereof), college athletes are now continually free-agent professionals with none of the contractual restraints that exist in the actual NFL. Currently, coaching staffs have little to no leverage to help instill discipline or loyalty in a cadre of athletes that are constantly being recruited by other teams with deeper pockets and the value of a free college education is not even given lip service any more.

I can't fault 18 year olds whose frontal cortexes are not yet fully developed for taking full advantage of the situation; but, the current philosophy of administrating DI collegiate sports is analogous to handing loaded handguns to a group of five-year olds and telling them to play safely.

[passed]

Speaking from the perspective of a Boomer (sorry HTL), all the charm and appeal of college sports is gone. There was a time when nearly every HS football player in America dreamed of someday playing for the "home team" and those lucky few that accomplished that goal were heroes in their home towns. Fans became invested in their favorite players as the players matured and excelled over the 3-4 years they represented the university. As corny as it sounds, school pride was the primary motivating factor in every Saturday game.

For whatever reasons, DI collegiate football has become the minor league of the NFL and I don't see how this genie can ever be put back in the bottle. Thanks to the current portal rules (or lack thereof), college athletes are now continually free-agent professionals with none of the contractual restraints that exist in the actual NFL. Currently, coaching staffs have little to no leverage to help instill discipline or loyalty in a cadre of athletes that are constantly being recruited by other teams with deeper pockets and the value of a free college education is not even given lip service any more.

I can't fault 18 year olds whose frontal cortexes are not yet fully developed for taking full advantage of the situation; but, the current philosophy of administrating DI collegiate sports is analogous to handing loaded handguns to a group of five-year olds and telling them to play safely.

I'm not a boomer, Y-Bother generation here, but this is 100% spot on.

[Ray Zorback]

Speaking from the perspective of a Boomer (sorry HTL), all the charm and appeal of college sports is gone. There was a time when nearly every HS football player in America dreamed of someday playing for the "home team" and those lucky few that accomplished that goal were heroes in their home towns. Fans became invested in their favorite players as the players matured and excelled over the 3-4 years they represented the university. As corny as it sounds, school pride was the primary motivating factor in every Saturday game.

For whatever reasons, DI collegiate football has become the minor league of the NFL and I don't see how this genie can ever be put back in the bottle. Thanks to the current portal rules (or lack thereof), college athletes are now continually free-agent professionals with none of the contractual restraints that exist in the actual NFL. Currently, coaching staffs have little to no leverage to help instill discipline or loyalty in a cadre of athletes that are constantly being recruited by other teams with deeper pockets and the value of a free college education is not even given lip service any more.

I can't fault 18 year olds whose frontal cortexes are not yet fully developed for taking full advantage of the situation; but, the current philosophy of administrating DI collegiate sports is analogous to handing loaded handguns to a group of five-year olds and telling them to play safely.

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[rzrbkfan69]

Love it. 

ADs and coaches won't directly call out fans for not contributing to NIL but they will call out local businesses for not taking a portion of what they make off the fans (and non fans) and contributing that money to the program. 

I will never contribute to NIL and won't do business with a business who does.   If that means Arkansas sucks for eternity then so be it. 

College athletics is a billion dollar industry.  When "they" show where all the money is going and coaches stop getting half a billion in buy out monies then I'll care again. 

The system is beyond stupid.  Fans have helped create it. 

I get not contributing to NIL, but not doing business with a place of business that does contribute? That's odd.

So if you find out tomorrow, that the owner of your favorite restaurant donated to the Hogs NIL, you'd never go there again?

[BleedinRed]

I get not contributing to NIL, but not doing business with a place of business that does contribute? That's odd.

So if you find out tomorrow, that the owner of your favorite restaurant donated to the Hogs NIL, you'd never go there again?

Yep.  Send your money to the athletic department if you want but I'm not doing it. 

We already are paying inflated prices across the board for goods and services.  I don't need to also pay a premium so the Hogs can pay their players too.

[DirkPiggler]

Yep.  Send your money to the athletic department if you want but I'm not doing it. 

We already are paying inflated prices across the board for goods and services.  I don't need to also pay a premium so the Hogs can pay their players too.

That's a decision, but you're only spiting yourself. 

If Wright's decides to charge an extra $0.33 on their brisket plate and give that to NIL I'm not going to deprive myself of a product with no comparable substitute (in this area) to prove a silly point that no one will notice.

I assume this also means you'll no longer consume Tyson Chicken or any of the beef or pork sold by one of their brands as well. 

[vegashog]

or watch the games since the tv money is paying part of the settlement which is backpay for nil.

[BleedinRed]

Fair points around.  I'll do what I can to limit what I perceive to be part of the problem.

[arreferee]

Speaking from the perspective of a Boomer (sorry HTL), all the charm and appeal of college sports is gone. There was a time when nearly every HS football player in America dreamed of someday playing for the "home team" and those lucky few that accomplished that goal were heroes in their home towns. Fans became invested in their favorite players as the players matured and excelled over the 3-4 years they represented the university. As corny as it sounds, school pride was the primary motivating factor in every Saturday game.

For whatever reasons, DI collegiate football has become the minor league of the NFL and I don't see how this genie can ever be put back in the bottle. Thanks to the current portal rules (or lack thereof), college athletes are now continually free-agent professionals with none of the contractual restraints that exist in the actual NFL. Currently, coaching staffs have little to no leverage to help instill discipline or loyalty in a cadre of athletes that are constantly being recruited by other teams with deeper pockets and the value of a free college education is not even given lip service any more.

I can't fault 18 year olds whose frontal cortexes are not yet fully developed for taking full advantage of the situation; but, the current philosophy of administrating DI collegiate sports is analogous to handing loaded handguns to a group of five-year olds and telling them to play safely.

Man, you hit the nail squarely on the head with this.  The part in bold has gotten geometrically worse over the past 25 years.

[animal]

Basically the NCAA needs to reform itself as a semi-pro sports association and start calling it what it really is. To that end it wouldn't be different than what Europe and Asia are doing with college age kids.

I'm still waiting for the IRS to really take a shit on somebody out of all this NIL stuff. You know it's gotta be coming. It'll be a Razorback and we'll be a national title hunt and they'll pull our star kid off the field just before the game and throw his ass in prison.
 

[DrMongoose]

NIL effort #2302 at the UofA

https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/frontoffice/

[animal]

NIL effort #2302 at the UofA

https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/frontoffice/

Oh lawd

We are such a joke.

[GeoHogsGeo]

Speaking from the perspective of a Boomer (sorry HTL), all the charm and appeal of college sports is gone. There was a time when nearly every HS football player in America dreamed of someday playing for the "home team" and those lucky few that accomplished that goal were heroes in their home towns. Fans became invested in their favorite players as the players matured and excelled over the 3-4 years they represented the university. As corny as it sounds, school pride was the primary motivating factor in every Saturday game.

For whatever reasons, DI collegiate football has become the minor league of the NFL and I don't see how this genie can ever be put back in the bottle. Thanks to the current portal rules (or lack thereof), college athletes are now continually free-agent professionals with none of the contractual restraints that exist in the actual NFL. Currently, coaching staffs have little to no leverage to help instill discipline or loyalty in a cadre of athletes that are constantly being recruited by other teams with deeper pockets and the value of a free college education is not even given lip service any more.

I can't fault 18 year olds whose frontal cortexes are not yet fully developed for taking full advantage of the situation; but, the current philosophy of administrating DI collegiate sports is analogous to handing loaded handguns to a group of five-year olds and telling them to play safely.

The kids just watched the adults and are doing what they were taught. Coaches and professional athletes showed them how loyalty has no place in this business.

"It's not show friends, it's show business." - Bob Sugar

[Pig Benis]

The kids just watched the adults and are doing what they were taught. Coaches and professional athletes showed them how loyalty has no place in this business.

"It's not show friends, it's show business." - Bob Sugar

Did they notice that the adults have employment contracts with buyout penalties?

[GeoHogsGeo]

Did they notice that the adults have employment contracts with buyout penalties?

It will eventually get to some form of contract/NIL buyout..bleedat. Just like universities try to protect their investments with buyouts to keep coaches from leaving...the problem is gonna be the buyouts on the backend like they are now. (see: Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, James Franklin)

[bigpig]

It will eventually get to some form of contract/NIL buyout..bleedat. Just like universities try to protect their investments with buyouts to keep coaches from leaving...the problem is gonna be the buyouts on the backend like they are now. (see: Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelly, James Franklin)

Things will change in a way that is to our detriment immediately after we get the current system figured out.

[Barton Fink]

https://x.com/JustinThind/status/1996958872519520426?t=6V_BHrq2p_HDOuZF4uoZ5w&s=19

[Sus-Scrofa]

https://x.com/JustinThind/status/1996958872519520426?t=6V_BHrq2p_HDOuZF4uoZ5w&s=19

An endowed NIL program is certainly taking it to another level.

That's an extra annual 20 million minimum for as long as they're playing sports.  Assuming they don't go for broke and spend it all in a few years.

[SwahiliSteve]

https://x.com/JustinThind/status/1996958872519520426?t=6V_BHrq2p_HDOuZF4uoZ5w&s=19

I just find this stupid. If I had all this money to waste the last thing I'm doing is giving it to sports for NIL. Sorry I just find it absurd. There's people with real needs out there, kids starving, cancer and disease research that it could go to and you waste it on NIL? Fucker