NIL

Started by Usafhawg, Mar 27, 2024, 01:02 PM

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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 18, 2025, 10:24 AMIt's untenable. Begging your fans for charity to support a sports team means over the years, if this goes on, the fan base will dwindle significantly.

It's untenable.

Lots of things are untenable.  You can either get on board while it is still happening, or you can cry about it and get left behind.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2025, 10:29 AMLots of things are untenable.  You can either get on board while it is still happening, or you can cry about it and get left behind.


Or you can "nope out" as the kids say. No crying necessary.

HTL

Arizona State's QB is shopping around and unlikely to return.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 18, 2025, 10:31 AMOr you can "nope out" as the kids say. No crying necessary.

Well, let's shut it down then. 

HTL


Barton Fink

I hate the way NIL has played out, but it's the first time we have something that could overcome the inherent disadvantages our program faces. If those with money care about the program like they say and want to be the one that makes a difference, now is the time to do it. Yet we are here sitting on our hands.

Cardiac Hog

Hunter killed the fan collective, so now there is no way for Joe Sixpack to suppert NIL.  HY doesn't want your $50/month.  How he still has a job after all of his public comments is baffling!

Lurk

Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 18, 2025, 09:34 AMNIL Menu:

Frank Broyles' Catfish Fillets ?
Houston Macademia Nutt encrusted Tilapia?
The Bielema Breakfast Bomb (Cold leftover chicken and a beer with a Tito's chaser)
The Chad- Liver and Cabbage cooked table side.
The Kenny Hatfield- Dry White toast and water


All good, but that's my favorite. The smell literally hit me.  ;)
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 18, 2025, 10:45 AMWell, let's shut it down then. 

That's where I am. If this is the model, let's shut it down.

Texzilla

Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 18, 2025, 09:34 AMNIL Menu:

Frank Broyles' Catfish Fillets ?
Houston Macademia Nutt encrusted Tilapia?
The Bielema Breakfast Bomb (Cold leftover chicken and a beer with a Tito's chaser)
The Chad- Liver and Cabbage cooked table side.
The Kenny Hatfield- Dry White toast and water



BMFP v1:  Road rash hash, a hot blind on the side.

Lou Holtz:  can't run the veer Nutt crunch pie



HogOfWar

Houston Nutt All You can Eat Crab Pinchers
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

GeoHogsGeo

Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 18, 2025, 01:44 PMHouston Nutt All You can Eat Crab Pinchers

Hustle.

FNG

Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 18, 2025, 09:34 AMNIL Menu:

Frank Broyles' Catfish Fillets ?
Houston Macademia Nutt encrusted Tilapia?
The Bielema Breakfast Bomb (Cold leftover chicken and a beer with a Tito's chaser)
The Chad- Liver and Cabbage cooked table side.
The Kenny Hatfield- Dry White toast and water


The John L. Smith- Wax Lips with a Hot Piss chaser.

DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: FNG on Nov 18, 2025, 08:21 PMThe John L. Smith- Wax Lips with a Hot Piss chaser.

Hot piss chaser. That's brilliant.

Spiderham

Oak Grove in the house.

Son of Spam

Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 19, 2025, 01:19 PMWe don't need no stinking Wal Mart money!!!

https://x.com/thecusacentel/status/1991145578768568603
Sure the money would be rejected. Like a church would reject 10% of a huge lottery you just won, even though gambling is evil.
Well, shit...

HogOfWar

Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 19, 2025, 01:23 PMSure the money would be rejected. Like a church would reject 10% of a huge lottery you just won, even though gambling is evil.

Or $180K from an anonymous donor which happens to be the amount to pay off taxes and steers the preacher's laptop stealing son to Auburn.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

Lurk

Quote from: Spiderham on Nov 19, 2025, 01:19 PMWe don't need no stinking Wal Mart money!!!

https://x.com/thecusacentel/status/1991145578768568603
Maybe we need to fire up Mena again.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

animal

It can't be that hard to set up a NIL collective where there's not dozens of hands dipping into the cookie jar before any of the money ever even reaches the player's hands. So far if it can be fucked up it is and we keep hiring zit faced kids to "lead the effort" who are undoubtedly competing against seasoned legal professionals (agent types) and other veteran fundraisers. The types of organizations that handle things like this to include "search firms" are people that don't want to put in the work or are in over their head. We're looking at you HY. Not being set up to compete is exactly the problem though and that's why we need to pivot back to the state.

The state needs to get it's shit together from a legal perspective and change some of our old laws that are supposedly handcuffing not only U  of Arkansas but could potentially be hurting other universities as well in the state. It seems we have a lot of money but can't allocate it like we'd like to and it's because of the state laws. We have (had) multiple donation arms RF and Edge etc....the waters are awfully muddy.

NIL should be a two pronged approach...if not three or four and they should all be cheap to administrate. Hell the individual player should be able to manage most of it on their own without the college even having much to do with it. If I make money on my own merits and go to college what business is it of that college? That's between me and the IRS at that point. 

1st: You get a collective together and handle it thru whatever legal means and stream line the shit out of it and insulate against fucking moron suites banking hard off it. Try to keep it as close to the house as legally possible.

2nd: make it to where a fan can be sitting on his couch or the toilet can pay that man his money as the play fucking happens. It makes total sense and incentivizes the player to give maximum effort every game. CashApp, Paypal...Superchat style payments...or whatever platform makes the most sense that doesn't involve tv networks getting their cut etc. 

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BleedinRed

Quote from: Barton Fink on Nov 18, 2025, 08:59 AMThis is what we've come to. A coach in a presser pleading for NIL donations feom local businesses.

https://x.com/Blakes_Take2/status/1990507823219028066?t=N_SYcKwMWoKp-D-AvrY8Ng&s=19

Love it.  

ADs and coaches won't directly call out fans for not contributing to NIL but they will call out local businesses for not taking a portion of what they make off the fans (and non fans) and contributing that money to the program.  

I will never contribute to NIL and won't do business with a business who does.   If that means Arkansas sucks for eternity then so be it.  

College athletics is a billion dollar industry.  When "they" show where all the money is going and coaches stop getting half a billion in buy out monies then I'll care again.  

The system is beyond stupid.  Fans have helped create it.