The future of college sports?

[The Whyte Boar]

No one "makes" money off of college athletics because it was set up on a non-profit model.  Every last dime was spent every last year. That's the reason for the facilities arms race the last twenty years.  Had to spend all that money on something and facilities were a good way to recruit since you couldn't pay players. 

Anyway, we are where anyone with a brain knew we would be once any sort of payments were authorized.  NIL which originated with the communist California legislature was designed to blow up college sports which they felt were exploitive to you black athletes. 

Any sorts of rules for regulating competition as far as it relates to payments will be very difficult because any sort of cooperation to limit salaries or other employment options will be seen violating anti-trust laws.  Congress will have to act and create an anti-trust exemption for the NCAA or there will have to be a player's association and a collective bargaining agreement like the NFL has.  I don't expect Congress to do anything that can be seen as limiting the earning potential of minority athletes and the he other may or may not happen.

Anyway, what you are seeing now is precisely why the NCAA had the rules it had and why they fought any sort of payment for so long.  As soon as the door was opened in the slightest, it was kicked in.  We've been here before in the 1920s before all the regulation.  College football was immensely popular and teams like Oklahoma were hiring 30 year old oil field workers to win games. 

[Pig Benis]

Any sorts of rules for regulating competition as far as it relates to payments will be very difficult because any sort of cooperation to limit salaries or other employment options will be seen violating anti-trust laws.  Congress will have to act and create an anti-trust exemption for the NCAA or there will have to be a player's association and a collective bargaining agreement like the NFL has.  I don't expect Congress to do anything that can be seen as limiting the earning potential of minority athletes and the he other may or may not happen.

This is discussed in the article from Ross Dellenger that I linked yesterday. The players would have to collectively agree to a salary cap projected at $17-22MM per year if they accept the revenue distribution that's being proposed. I assume that there will be serious limitations to the transfer portal at that point too which would fix a lot of this shit.

I don't see how this fixes NIL though because you can't cap that.

[Hizog]

If the purpose of college is to prepare a student for their profession, then just make football, basketball, baseball, etc a field of study. Do away with any "unnecessary classes".

Their classes are their workouts and practices.

If a kid wants a well rounded education, then they can have a double major in one of the traditional fields.

[HogOfWar]

If the purpose of college is to prepare a student for their profession, then just make football, basketball, baseball, etc a field of study. Do away with any "unnecessary classes".

Their classes are their workouts and practices.

If a kid wants a well rounded education, then they can have a double major in one of the traditional fields.

Interesting. Kind of like a Music major.

[animal]

If the purpose of college is to prepare a student for their profession, then just make football, basketball, baseball, etc a field of study. Do away with any "unnecessary classes".

Their classes are their workouts and practices.

If a kid wants a well rounded education, then they can have a double major in one of the traditional fields.

The west German and Russian folk were doing it for a while. Failing probably meant getting flogged but it was a great incentive to not fail.

[Lurk]

I've heard stories about that...like the application rate at Alabama went up by 50% after Saban won his first NC (or something along those lines).

Where is all of this money going?  Are people getting rich off of it...other than coaches?  Are there people behind the scenes who are making millions from the universities?  Or, are the schools just spending it all on new buildings, more employees, etc.?

I'm sure a lot of it goes into the general foundation fund. There's lots of useless shit to fund now.

[Sus-Scrofa]

If the purpose of college is to prepare a student for their profession, then just make football, basketball, baseball, etc a field of study. Do away with any "unnecessary classes".

Their classes are their workouts and practices.

If a kid wants a well rounded education, then they can have a double major in one of the traditional fields.

I heard a radio guy talk about this.  A football major or athletics major.

A mix of business classes, some accounting, health, nutrition, credits for training and practice.

Better than nothing.

[Hizog]

So then...

1. Make athletics a field of study

2. Schools pay the athletes, but there is a reasonable salary cap on schools the same as most professional leagues. Possibly a larger cap at the bigger conferences.

3. Athletes can earn as much NIL as they want (per the courts), however, NIL is independent from the schools, meaning schools can't use it to recruit players. It will still be abused, but no different than the last 50 years of NCAA recruiting.

4. I'm too tired to fix the transfer portal. Someone else do that.

[Jostlyn mcCocksack]

Agreed with making athletics the major....I have been screaming for this since I was at the University....they don't have to go to class whatsoever...they are here to try and become pros.

[animal]

I would think there would be a lot more professional basket weavers out there but apparently that's a dead end major. Just give it a few more years we'll need them after WWIII starts up with red balloons over towns near you.

[DrMongoose]

if this happens, I would trust it will applied to softball (title ix if biden hasn't gutted it).
Those 2 sports become full ride sports which gets a hell of a lot more expensive plus NIL and all that.
I could see some athletic departments cutting sports and some closing the doors.


https://x.com/BaseballAmerica/status/1786517842617049175

[buff2.0]

NCAA is trying to accelerate its own demise. 

[egregious]

I am facing a real internal dichotomy. 

On one hand I am happier than I have ever been and honestly am an absolute delight to be around if the feedback I have been getting is any indication.  Knowing that has me in state of undetectable smugness that doesn't show so it is like a feedback loop.  I keep getting more charming and likable and I am starting to fascinate myself.*

On the other hand I find myself enjoying more and more watching asshats who have decided they are important enough to be "in charge" of something just absolutely fuck it up, doesn't matter what it is as long as I am not invested in it.  My private life has been full of all sorts of leaders who I have held in high regard while the void in leadership in the public sphere is burning down the country.



*I am so full of shit, aren't I?  hahahaha /

[jdcatty]

Yesterday I saw a poll on X (I think) asking how many people think it would be ok to allocate tax dollars to the NIL mix. I hate the whole thing anyway, but that is definitely a "bridge too far" in my book.

[Show-Me Hog]

Yesterday I saw a poll on X (I think) asking how many people think it would be ok to allocate tax dollars to the NIL mix. I hate the whole thing anyway, but that is definitely a "bridge too far" in my book.

For Arkansas? State tax dollars or federal?

I have a feeling the answers would be very different in SEC Country than, say, Idaho or Connecticut or Maine.

But I wouldn't see it carrying a majority anywhere. Very analogous to these stadium propositions that keep failing.

[DirkPiggler]

Why don't we see guys in professional sports "portal"?  Oh, that's right; contracts. 

College needs to adopt the professional model and be done. 

This is where it's headed. 

My main question is, what happens when Alabama trades a 5-star freshman QB who's sitting behind two 5-stars to Arkansas for a senior OT and a player to be named later?  I don't think that players understand quite what they're signing up for once they become employees.

[jdcatty]

For Arkansas? State tax dollars or federal?

I have a feeling the answers would be very different in SEC Country than, say, Idaho or Connecticut or Maine.

But I wouldn't see it carrying a majority anywhere. Very analogous to these stadium propositions that keep failing.

The poll didn't specify a state.

[Vito Porkleone]

Yesterday I saw a poll on X (I think) asking how many people think it would be ok to allocate tax dollars to the NIL mix. I hate the whole thing anyway, but that is definitely a "bridge too far" in my book.

Hard no.

[Lurk]

Yesterday I saw a poll on X (I think) asking how many people think it would be ok to allocate tax dollars to the NIL mix. I hate the whole thing anyway, but that is definitely a "bridge too far" in my book.

Hell no.

[piglosopher]

Yesterday I saw a poll on X (I think) asking how many people think it would be ok to allocate tax dollars to the NIL mix. I hate the whole thing anyway, but that is definitely a "bridge too far" in my book.

Shut it all down if it comes to that.