The future of college sports?

[jdcatty]

https://x.com/aaron_torres/status/1785111759730376822?



Not sure what is going on, but it sounds ominous.

[Sus-Scrofa]

If they ever get to revenue sharing with college athletes, that should at a minimum do away with the portal madness.

You don't share revenue with someone who can up and leave every year.

[Lurk]

This will probably go ahead and kill it off.

[BleedinRed]

If that is the direction everything is headed will the fans still be blamed for the success of the team by the tens of dollars they give to NIL?

[The Cowboy Tiger]

All of this started when the IOC let professionals compete in the Olympics.  Madness.

[jdcatty]

This will probably go ahead and kill it off.

I really fear this will be the case. 

[Pig Benis]

https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1786192250277683583

[animal]

This will probably go ahead and kill it off.

There will be snowflakes that have never seen sports that will burn this shit down in short order. 

.Anyway back on track...a planned revenue share model funneled thru tv networks, merchandise, and ticket sales to have to fork over many more billions of dollars for the rights and thus subscribers & ticket holders (that's us) will be contributing to NIL in one form or another. The TV packages and ticket costs will go up substancially because the greedy fucking schools won't let go of previous revenue streams. 

The entire idea of NIL was for this thing to be apart from the schools all together and we've quickly gravitated toward this collective model. This sounds like the collective industry may get kicked the to curb and the schools will sort it out? It goes completely 180 from where this all started. It places the pressure on being in a conference with strong revenue shares (SEC)...it completely destabliizes any independent model like we've seen from Notre Dame and BYU over the years. Gee that sounds really good the networks.

This may slow the portal down to sustainable levels but I don't think they'll get rid of it entirely as it makes for good stories in the dead parts of the year. For coaches team building never ends, plus they have the added pressure to raise money like never before and the fans have more power than ever before currently. That dog won't hunt. 

Coaches could plan 2 and 3 years out back in the day with kids...they can't plan 2 or 3 months ahead now. It's completely bonkers. This may help smooth the NIL thing a bit by funneling money thru the revenue streams where it should be but it's like selling something with a "FREE XYZ"....trust me it's built in the price feller.

[BleedinRed]

Why don't we see guys in professional sports "portal"?  Oh, that's right; contracts.  

College needs to adopt the professional model and be done.  

[Sus-Scrofa]

Why don't we see guys in professional sports "portal"?  Oh, that's right; contracts. 

College needs to adopt the professional model and be done. 

At that point, making athletes go to class seems kind of pointless.  If they're that well paid, they should be focusing on their sport.

I don't think that's a good thing, but sure seems unavoidable.

[HogOfWar]

At that point, making athletes go to class seems kind of pointless.  If they're that well paid, they should be focusing on their sport.

I don't think that's a good thing, but sure seems unavoidable.

Might as well make the three major men's sports into premier leagues and leave women's sports in colleges.

[Show-Me Hog]

At that point, making athletes go to class seems kind of pointless.  If they're that well paid, they should be focusing on their sport.

I don't think that's a good thing, but sure seems unavoidable.

Might as well make the three major men's sports into premier leagues and leave women's sports in colleges.

Yes, at the point they are no longer student athletes, why do they get to wear University of Arkansas or Duke or Notre Dame on their uniforms? And use university facilities?

[egregious]

I don't pay more than one ticket a year now, will never pay more, if that gets to be too much I will care about something else.

That was easy.

[uagrad2007]

The TV packages and ticket costs will go up substantially because the greedy fucking schools won't let go of previous revenue streams.

Honest question...are the schools making a lot of money off of sports right now, or are they bringing in a lot of money and spending it on coaches salaries, facilities, etc.  If they are making a lot of profit, I agree with you.  If they are bringing in a lot of money and spending it, how do you suggest they change in order pay the players and not increase ticket prices, etc.?  I hate that tickets cost as much as they do now, but I'm afraid it's too late to put the toothpaste back in the tube on that one.

[BleedinRed]

"Division I athletics generated $15.8 billion in revenues in 2019, according to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), which regulates student athletics among 1,100 colleges and universities."

Someone is making a lot of money.  But, if Arkansas fans would give a little more then the Razorbacks can win ships!

[uagrad2007]

"Division I athletics generated $15.8 billion in revenues in 2019, according to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), which regulates student athletics among 1,100 colleges and universities."

Someone is making a lot of money.  But, if Arkansas fans would give a little more then the Razorbacks can win ships!

That goes along with my question.  Who is making all the money?  Where is it going if not to salaries, facilities, etc.?  The NCAA isn't a publicly traded company so they aren't paying shareholders. 

[jdcatty]

Honest question...are the schools making a lot of money off of sports right now, or are they bringing in a lot of money and spending it on coaches salaries, facilities, etc.  If they are making a lot of profit, I agree with you.  If they are bringing in a lot of money and spending it, how do you suggest they change in order pay the players and not increase ticket prices, etc.?  I hate that tickets cost as much as they do now, but I'm afraid it's too late to put the toothpaste back in the tube on that one.

A few of the very successful schools do make money off sports, albeit indirectly.  There have been many stories written about the increased number of applications that schools like Alabama have received over the years due to their success in football. Results in increased enrollment and eventually increased donations and funding for the schools.  And not just Alabama.  But almost exclusively the very successful schools.  Not schools like Missouri, or Arkansas.

[uagrad2007]

A few of the very successful schools do make money off sports, albeit indirectly.  There have been many stories written about the increased number of applications that schools like Alabama have received over the years due to their success in football. Results in increased enrollment and eventually increased donations and funding for the schools.  And not just Alabama.  But almost exclusively the very successful schools.  Not schools like Missouri, or Arkansas.

I've heard stories about that...like the application rate at Alabama went up by 50% after Saban won his first NC (or something along those lines).

Where is all of this money going?  Are people getting rich off of it...other than coaches?  Are there people behind the scenes who are making millions from the universities?  Or, are the schools just spending it all on new buildings, more employees, etc.?

[BleedinRed]

No one can know that Napoleon.  

[vegashog]

isn't enrollment growing so fast that it's beginning to stress the infrastructure? like record numbers? if so, it's damn sure not because of athletic success, especially with the most popular sport. and arkansas is consistently in the top 20 in athletic revenue.

as for what comes in and what goes out, it's not that hard to find.

https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/financial-information/