Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

[vegashog]

doubt he was coming back when he was told he had a bone bruise when in fact it was a fracture.

[Barton Fink]

Coaches, eh?

https://x.com/SmallwoodTrent/status/1865082028942557322?t=RgdvSzcSJPb481EkM_a7rQ&s=19

[vegashog]

yeah, anyone who says money isn't the motivating factor in getting players in today's game is just in denial.

and yes, pittman sucks.

[DirkPiggler]

Coaches, eh?

https://x.com/SmallwoodTrent/status/1865082028942557322?t=RgdvSzcSJPb481EkM_a7rQ&s=19

Texas and Georgia are peers. 

Unfortunately thanks to the events of the last decade we are not peers with Ole Miss.   

[Barton Fink]

If the coach at UGA who has a 4yr relationship with a kid and losses him due to maney, then any coach we hire doesn't stand a chance. Money is  gonna win out every time. I'm telling  you times have changed. You better offer the same amount of money and hope your coach can sell it. If not, it's plan B.

[egregious]

Texas and Georgia are peers. 

Unfortunately thanks to the events of the last decade we are not peers with Ole Miss. 

Don't care how, just keep that fucker away from UGAG

[vegashog]

Texas and Georgia are peers. 

the last couple of years, sure.

in the last 10 years georgia is 124-23. texas 79-56.

[Barton Fink]

Interesting take...

https://x.com/JoePompliano/status/1865184030259376526?t=bZ98EOBL87oS4C6TFpHxog&s=19

[animal]

Maybe the A-club should be handing out 100k bonuses for all hogs that went to four years at UA and graduated. 

[Thin Red Swine]

If the coach at UGA who has a 4yr relationship with a kid and losses him due to maney, then any coach we hire doesn't stand a chance. Money is  gonna win out every time. I'm telling  you times have changed. You better offer the same amount of money and hope your coach can sell it. If not, it's plan B.

Let's say we find $11mm of change in between the sofa cushions and offer it to that Terry kid. Would he pick us over Texas?

[TC]

If the coach at UGA who has a 4yr relationship with a kid and losses him due to maney, then any coach we hire doesn't stand a chance. Money is  gonna win out every time. I'm telling  you times have changed. You better offer the same amount of money and hope your coach can sell it. If not, it's plan B.

Again, you're act like this is new.

[Barton Fink]

Again, you're act like this is new.

Again, you act like it's the same. Yes players have been getting paid but nowhere near the scale it is today. You have a HS QB getting paid $12M.

If it's nothing new, then why is every coach complaining about it and causing some coaches to retire because of it?

[Papa Pigeritus]

How come God never tells these kids to stay?

God does not love that helmet.

[Barton Fink]

If we are paying more than other schools, highly likely.

Who gives a shit if you win. You're making life changing money.

[TC]

Again, you act like it's the same. Yes players have been getting paid but nowhere near the scale it is today. You have a HS QB getting paid $12M.

If it's nothing new, then why is every coach complaining about it and causing some coaches to retire because of it?

Well you've isolated the 1 qb in the entire country who Portnoy bros have thrown their hat in for. I mean I guess you're ultimately right because even Bama isn't paying that.

Meanwhile go look at the Bama players parking lot for the last decade. But that was cool then. Now suddenly it's "cash", not cars, and omg it's time to freak out!!

[Barton Fink]

tOSU is known to be spending $25M in NIL. That wasn't the case 5 years ago.

Back to the UGA/UT situation. Let's say UGA offered the kid $900k. Let's say UT comes in offers $1.2M.

How much do you think it would take for him to sign with Arkansas with SP as HC?

How much do you think it would take for him to sign with Arkansas with the coach of your choice?

[Pig Benis]

tOSU is known to be spending $25M in NIL. That wasn't the case 5 years ago.

Back to the UGA/UT situation. Let's say UGA offered the kid $900k. Let's say UT comes in offers $1.2M.

How much do you think it would take for him to sign with Arkansas with SP as HC?

How much do you think it would take for him to sign with Arkansas with the coach of your choice?

You keep harping on the NIL and I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you about it being the driving factor in recruiting. So what do you propose? You seem to prefer the status quo because of the coordinators but if we don't have any money then what difference does it make? You can scream at broke Joe Fan all you want but they're not going to come around, at least not with this coach and an administration that doesn't seem serious about football.

[animal]

How about we play a game of who would it take for you to send 100 or more per month to NIL? 

[Barton Fink]

You keep harping on the NIL and I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you about it being the driving factor in recruiting. So what do you propose? You seem to prefer the status quo because of the coordinators but if we don't have any money then what difference does it make? You can scream at broke Joe Fan all you want but they're not going to come around, at least not with this coach and an administration that doesn't seem serious about football.

All I'm trying to say is this. History shows we are a 6 win peogram. Which is essentially where we are today. We all want to win more games. In order to consistently win more games you have to increase your talent. It's more important now more than ever because schools that were at your level are getting better players. We have a disadvantage in HS recruiting and now have one in NIL. A good coach will not see us as an attractive program. We do not provide a coach the resources to be successful. "Come here and compete against the best with less talent" isn't a ringing endorsement.

Even if you get a coach who is a good recruiter, he's not going to convince a kid to come here for less money. Probably not for even money today. He's behind the 8 ball day one.

In order to win 8+ games a year, you better be on an even playing field or close to it talent wise. Otherwise you're hoping you can coach above your talent. Talent is making plays on the fiel, coaches aren't. That's wishful thinking.

All in all I would be shocked if we fired SP and hired a coach everyone was happy with. You're probably gonna get a guy like Odom whose best year at Mizz was 8 wins. Pretty much what SP has done. So either way you look at it, old coach or new coach, in order to win more gsmes consistently, you're gonna have to solve the talent problem. I think with better talent our current coordinators can overcome what minimal inpacts SP has on the game. We've been close in many games over the last couple years. I've always been of the mindset that talent wins most games. Better players make better plays which increase your shot at winning. Moreso than most anything a coach can so.

Some seem to think hiring a new coach and money will magically appear. I think that's a crap shoot. Regardless, if we want to win it better improve. The top schools in our league have 2x what we have. Hard to get better when you're that far  behind.

[Barton Fink]

You keep harping on the NIL and I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you about it being the driving factor in recruiting. So what do you propose? You seem to prefer the status quo because of the coordinators but if we don't have any money then what difference does it make? You can scream at broke Joe Fan all you want but they're not going to come around, at least not with this coach and an administration that doesn't seem serious about football.

One more thing. Some say we have a bad "culture" and that may be true. Would you trade a better culture for worse coordinators? That is likely gonna happen if you hire a new coach and he brings his staff.