Portal thread. Who’s leaving, who’s coming.

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vegashog

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 07, 2024, 12:11 PMOne thing that gets overlooked is that most of the programs who are excelling at NIL already had the apparatus for paying players in place.  It just became legal. 

Ole Miss has been buying players since before any of us were born.  Same for Alabama, LSU, aTm, etc.  While we were never as squeaky clean as JFB convinced us we were, in relative terms we were choirboys. 

We are having to convince people who have been funding elite facilities for 50 years to start sending that money to players while still keeping up with the Jones' in physical plant and amenities. Those schools just had to add some paperwork for the same donors.
should have jumped into the mud when we first got into the sec, rolled the dice and let them know we were going to play the game. got put on probation anyway for some stupid shit.

jeff long wasn't the first to use the word integrity.


BleedinRed

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Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 11:56 AMWhy do some people invest so much time and thought trying to convince us that we are trash as a program and have no reason tk expect better? 

Ive expected better since at least 1985. 

When are we going to be better?

Pig Benis

The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Show-Me Hog

Shuffling the deck and re-dealing after every season is so fucked. The college game is losing people doing it this way.

Not to say the old way of behemoths hoarding players for themselves was great either.

We need a third way. We need a Yoda to guide us.

Barton Fink

It is going to lose it's fanbase at some point. I agree.

Pig Benis

Absolutely. I've always preferred CFB over the NFL but that's changing in a hurry.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

animal

Quote from: vegashog on Dec 07, 2024, 11:37 AMthat's what the revenue sharing is. but nil and the collectives aren't going away.


No it's a brand new revenue stream that people laid down for and just sent in their money. It was presented as this "oh isn't that nice that guy got 100 bucks and some free bbq" to now Oh fuck that kid just got 12 million dollars for fucking nothing
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 12:11 PMOh, I don't know. Maybe 30+ years of history?

All you've done is complain and dodged questions I've asked. So let's try this again...

What are YOUR expectations for the program and what is YOUR solution to get there?

Hire decent coaches, get decent results. 

Arkansas was trash and not very good until we hired Broyles.  We were a Top 10 program with Broyles.  We continued to be a Top 15 program with Holtz and Hatfield. 

They were bad with Crowe, Kines, and worn out Ford.  Nutt brought life into the program and in hindsight was better than I gave him credit at the time.  We got rid of him and immediately upgraded.

Since we blew it up and fired Petrino, we hired a crazy man, a fat alcoholic, and a glorified high school coach before settling on a lifetime assistant who had never even been a coordinator.

Arkansas under Nutt averaged 7.5 wins a year.  That's about the worst we should do.  The last thirty years of Arkansas football is not an indictment of the program, it's an indictment of the retards making the decisions about the program. 




BleedinRed


Sus-Scrofa

I still don't think an NIL set up dependent on average fan contributions will ever be a long term solution.

But a step in the right direction would be to give foundation credit for NIL donations.  

I'm not going to be blackmailed twice for a chance at a decent team and a chance to buy decent season tickets (basketball and baseball).

Barton Fink

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 12:34 PMHire decent coaches, get decent results. 

Arkansas was trash and not very good until we hired Broyles.  We were a Top 10 program with Broyles.  We continued to be a Top 15 program with Holtz and Hatfield. 

They were bad with Crowe, Kines, and worn out Ford.  Nutt brought life into the program and in hindsight was better than I gave him credit at the time.  We got rid of him and immediately upgraded.

Since we blew it up and fired Petrino, we hired a crazy man, a fat alcoholic, and a glorified high school coach before settling on a lifetime assistant who had never even been a coordinator.

Arkansas under Nutt averaged 7.5 wins a year.  That's about the worst we should do.  The last thirty years of Arkansas football is not an indictment of the program, it's an indictment of the retards making the decisions about the program. 






Can you name a coach that would come here and win 8 games a year?

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 12:48 PMCan you name a coach that would come here and win 8 games a year?

I know one that can't.

Barton Fink


The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 12:57 PMAgain, stop dodging the question and give an answer.

It's not my job to identify a potential coach.  That's the AD's job.  Identify the best coach you can find based on actual coaching and hire him. If he doesn't want the job, offer more money and/or go to the next best guy.

Of course, if our illustrious AD hadn't gotten butthurt he could have hired Kiffin and I'm pretty sure he would have averaged at least eight. 


Barton Fink

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Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 01:00 PMIt's not my job to identify a potential coach.  That's the AD's job.  Identify the best coach you can find based on actual coaching and hire him. If he doesn't want the job, offer more money and/or go to the next best guy.

Of course, if our illustrious AD hadn't gotten butthurt he could have hired Kiffin and I'm pretty sure he would have averaged at least eight. 


So you're saying you don't know 1 coach in the country that can come in here and win 8 games on the regular on coaching alone. I agree with that.

And if you think we had a chance to hire Kiffin you're sadly mistaken.

The Whyte Boar


The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 01:04 PMSo you're saying you don't know 1 coach in the country that can come in here and win 8 games on the regular on coaching alone. I agree with that.

A ton of them could.