Fayetteville (Super) Regional - 2025 Edition now CWS

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BleedinRed

Quote from: Feral on Jun 17, 2025, 02:44 PMIt's readily apparent that the DVH and Hobbs don't have any confidence in Beidelschies. I doubt we see him in a big spot going forward unless there's no other option.

I think they're less bullish on Jiminez in a starting role right now since his last 2 outings were shaky. He seems to do better out of the pen.

I think their mentality is that you let Root go back out there and prove himself, and you have Jiminez available for mid to long relief if needed.

The only real question about the rotation is who starts tomorrow nights game (assuming we win tonight).  I don't know who you start other than a Jiminez or BJ.  

You guys are going to laugh but maybe McEntire?  The knock on Will is the long ball.  That ballpark is huge.  That may work to his advantage.  A lot of rockets that turn into long outs.

jdcatty

We all know Root is very good when he is "on" and not very good when he isn't.  He will be on a short leash tonight for sure.  If is on, and we get 4 or 5 innings from him, and can use him again late in the weekend, this will look like a good move.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: jdcatty on Jun 17, 2025, 03:12 PMIf is on, and we get 4 or 5 innings from him, and can use him again late in the weekend, this will look like a good move.

There's a few steps twixt here and there. If we get to "late in the weekend," that means our C team will have beaten LSU. Which is the main part of this gamble, not whether Root is on tonight.

vegashog

you have to play the game in front of you when it's elimination. at this point there is no looking ahead.

jimenez has not looked good at all, and what about beidelschies's 56 hits in 56 innings to go along with a team leading 14 hr given up should inspire confidence in this situation?


Feral

Quote from: BleedinRed on Jun 17, 2025, 03:11 PMYou guys are going to laugh but maybe McEntire?  The knock on Will is the long ball.  That ballpark is huge.  That may work to his advantage.  A lot of rockets that turn into long outs.

It's a good callout.

McEntire hasn't gotten a ton of work, but he's done it before in Omaha and that park plays large (which reduces the susceptibility to the long ball).

Pig Benis

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jun 17, 2025, 01:53 PMLike everyone else don't love it. Surely it would be easier to beat UCLA with a patchwork game rather than LSU. I see that bringing Root back for Game 2 or 3 would work better if he pitches today, but that is definitely a chickens before they hatch situation.

Yes, but so is acting like UCLA is a midweek game while looking forward to LSU again. Gotta win this one first and he's the best pitcher available. It certainly isn't ideal. If we were going to save pitchers and look ahead then yesterday was the day for that.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

BleedinRed

During the season:

Game one: loss 5-4 - Root/Jimenez/Gaeckle
Of course Gaeckle gave up the game winniner in the 10th but Jimenez lost that game in the 7th by giving up two runs. We were up 4-2 at that point.

Game two: loss 13-3 - Wood/Bybee/Fisher/McGuire/Eaves/Dietz
They beat the shit out of us and I think we woud all prefer Wood start against them now.

Game three: win 7-4 - Beidelschies/Carter/Foutch/Gibler/Jimenez/Coil
Beidelschies gave up 3 runs in the first three innings.  Everyone else locked it down after that.  Well, except Jimenez.  He gave up another run in the 8th.  

Other than Gaeckle; none of our starting pitchers or Jimenez were good against LSU. Fuck, start Foutch or Carter tomorrow night and see how it goes.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Pig Benis on Jun 17, 2025, 03:56 PMYes, but so is acting like UCLA is a midweek game while looking forward to LSU again. Gotta win this one first and he's the best pitcher available. It certainly isn't ideal. If we were going to save pitchers and look ahead then yesterday was the day for that.

UCLA hasn't seen Root.  LSU has seen him twice.  As mentioned above, you throw your best pitcher tonight regardless.  Must win.

Feral

The best scenario is that we jump out to a lead and get breathing room and some optionality with our bullpen.

Just kidding, we know our bats have OD'd on melatonin and are in a REM sleep.

Pig Benis

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jun 17, 2025, 02:43 PMETA: What it really tells me is DVH's lack of confidence in our offense (not without good reason). Theoretically, we should be able to outscore UCLA tonight. Given how many arms they used today and so far in the tournament. We shouldn't need Root to outscore them. Using Root means DVH thinks we actually cannot outscore them and we need the pitching.

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The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

SwahiliSteve

There's a huge cell that's gonna be over Omaha between 7-8 tonight that may delay our playing. Lots of nasty shit from Denver to Kansas popping off back to back
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rzrbkfan69

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 17, 2025, 04:25 PMThere's a huge cell that's gonna be over Omaha between 7-8 tonight that may delay our playing. Lots of nasty shit from Denver to Kansas popping off back to back

Looking at that future radar aren't ya? Sometimes, that's about as accurate as HTL's predictions.

woodhog14

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Jun 17, 2025, 12:29 PMAt some point he's got to go up swinging at the first pitch fastball. 
Sure does. Just has too many piss poor at bats.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 17, 2025, 04:25 PMThere's a huge cell that's gonna be over Omaha between 7-8 tonight that may delay our playing. Lots of nasty shit from Denver to Kansas popping off back to back

According to the Weather Channel, only a 93% chance of thunderstorms at 7 pm.


Hogfan58

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Jun 17, 2025, 04:25 PMThere's a huge cell that's gonna be over Omaha between 7-8 tonight that may delay our playing. Lots of nasty shit from Denver to Kansas popping off back to back

Which means Root will pitch until the rain hits and then IF the game continues tonight, someone else will come in after the delay.
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Son of Spam

I just have a bad feeling about this. I think we beat UCLA but beating LSU twice will be a tall order. I would HATE if LSU won it all again. Fuck them and their fans. Hell, other than the food, fuck the whole state. And fuck this ump! Now, get off my grass.....
Well, shit...

woodhog14

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jun 17, 2025, 01:53 PMLike everyone else don't love it. Surely it would be easier to beat UCLA with a patchwork game rather than LSU. I see that bringing Root back for Game 2 or 3 would work better if he pitches today, but that is definitely a chickens before they hatch situation.
If DVH did this, and we lost tonight, you and everyone else would be wanting to fire his ass.

You HAVE to start Root tonight. He's the best pitcher we have that is ready to go. This is an elimination game, so you go with your best.

You don't go into an elimination game planning a patch work game.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: woodhog14 on Jun 17, 2025, 04:51 PMIf DVH did this, and we lost tonight, you and everyone else would be wanting to fire his ass.

Huh? Absolutely no one (and I mean no one) thought Root was even available tonight until he was announced as the starter. The only debate was Jiminez or Beetlecheese.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: woodhog14 on Jun 17, 2025, 04:51 PMIf DVH did this, and we lost tonight, you and everyone else would be wanting to fire his ass.

You HAVE to start Root tonight. He's the best pitcher we have that is ready to go. This is an elimination game, so you go with your best.

You don't go into an elimination game planning a patch work game.

100% agree.

It's likely also the primary reason for the quick hook on Root the last game.

After giving up that many early, it was always going to be a big hurdle to come back against Anderson, so no reason to waste a starter arm. 

woodhog14

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Jun 17, 2025, 04:58 PMHuh? Absolutely no one (and I mean no one) thought Root was even available tonight until he was announced as the starter. The only debate was Jiminez or Beetlecheese.
Well, you said you didn't love the decision (Root starting) and that it would be easier to beat UCLA with a patchwork game.