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HTL

Quote from: animal on Oct 26, 2025, 01:52 PMWe were known for a lot of classes that were rerated higher than initially believed during the Petrino years is what I recall.

He wasn't here that long. 2010 class was dreadful. Mallett, Wilson, Gragg, Adams, Wright, Childs, DJ, Franklin, Bequette, Green was pretty fortunate to walk into. Some were already here but the state isn't pumping talent out like that anymore. Knile, Cobi...pretty much our playmakers were highly touted.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Too Big Pig on Oct 26, 2025, 12:41 PMThis is exactly what I had said several times.  If it isn't Petrino, we will continue to play the "what ifs" over and over in our heads, especially if we get another mediocre coach.  We need to give Bobby 4 years and then we can all move on.

Why do you or Borenutz think HY should care what average IQ fans think?  He shouldn't give BP the job based on "what-ifs". 

Borenutz

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 02:36 PMWhy do you or Borenutz think HY should care what average IQ fans think?  He shouldn't give BP the job based on "what-ifs".

I guess on one hand, he shouldn't care, if he were to be trusted to make a quality evaluation for the next coach. On the other hand, he has his hand out looking for those folks' money.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 02:48 PMI guess on one hand, he shouldn't care, if he were to be trusted to make a quality evaluation for the next coach. On the other hand, he has his hand out looking for those folks' money.

I guess my follow up is do you think only average IQ fans think BP is the right choice?

Borenutz

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 02:50 PMI guess my follow up is do you think only average IQ fans think BP is the right choice?

Actually I think if you polled the fan base 70% or more would be in favor of BP. However, I do think people more connected to UA like former students, donors etc are more in favor of him than Jimmy from Dewitt.

animal

Fans are going to be hot and cold. We're cold now because that's a game we should have won. That's a game that indicates what we're really seeing is the same shit we've been seeing under Pittman. We're seeing Petrino can't unfuck this mid-season no matter what our well wishes are. We've come close but that's probably all we'll ever do. 

We've developed no depth despite being terrible at multiple starting positions. Meaning the guys behind them must be absolute ass or not on the roster. 

Yesterday I didn't feel like Petrino's play calling was that bad...although we aren't running Russell/Washington nearly enough. That seems to be a hallmark of Petrino at least right now...we don't stay committed to the run. Dare I say a Malzahn offense probably fits this team pretty well...but this team won't even remotely be the same next season no matter who the coach is. 

Once thing I can gurantee you aint happening...the quarterback is not being coached to throw repeatedly into triple coverage. Those weren't even rushed throws...thy were calculated and mostly 1st reads. The guy is a fucking water head. He hasn't really improved that much from his Boise years. Again...I wish Petrino would return to the years where he was getting the high football IQ guys to run his shit. Falling in love with the athletes is really not helping him. Give me a leader that's tough and gritty...and maybe a guy with a accurate arm that really knows how to see the field. 

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Spiderham

He needs a Tyler Wilson, not a poor man's Lamar Jackson.  If he gets a commitment as head coach, don't be surprised to see Jackson get a lot more reps.
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Barton Fink

I think he landed on Green knowing our Oline was gonna be miserable last year and he needed a guy that could escape. Green gave him that with some passing ability.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: HTL on Oct 26, 2025, 02:04 PMHe wasn't here that long. 2010 class was dreadful. Mallett, Wilson, Gragg, Adams, Wright, Childs, DJ, Franklin, Bequette, Green was pretty fortunate to walk into. Some were already here but the state isn't pumping talent out like that anymore. Knile, Cobi...pretty much our playmakers were highly touted.

We had more NFL defensive linemen that were recruited by Petrino than the rest of the coaches we've had in the SEC era combined. 

Of the guys you mentioned only Mallett was a 5-Star.  The rest were high 3s/low 4s.  Every single one of them will tell you they wouldn't have developed into the same caliber player without Petrino's development. 

This is not an argument to retain Bobby today.  But explaining away his success here the first time as due to talent is indisputably wrong. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

vegashog

he's had a dual threat qb since he was at louisvile. if he wanted the drop back passer, he would have recruited one. green's been on his radar since high school, it doesn't seem like a take what he could get situation.

BleedinRed

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 26, 2025, 04:01 PMBut explaining away his success here the first time as due to talent is indisputably wrong. 

We had another poster, goat fucker Zeke, that liked to make the same argument. 

From the moment BP stepped on campus in 08 the team, players, win/loss record, fan enthusiasm, etc increased every year.  That is the only fact that matters. 

DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 26, 2025, 04:14 PMWe had another poster, goat fucker Zeke, that liked to make the same argument. 

From the moment BP stepped on campus in 08 the team, players, win/loss record, fan enthusiasm, etc increased every year.  That is the only fact that matters. 

I don't mean to take away from those guys accomplishments at all, but to act as if BP just happened to walk into all of them and had no bearing on their coming here is way off.   
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Son of Spam

Quote from: animal on Oct 26, 2025, 03:20 PMFans are going to be hot and cold. We're cold now because that's a game we should have won. That's a game that indicates what we're really seeing is the same shit we've been seeing under Pittman. We're seeing Petrino can't unfuck this mid-season no matter what our well wishes are. We've come close but that's probably all we'll ever do.

We've developed no depth despite being terrible at multiple starting positions. Meaning the guys behind them must be absolute ass or not on the roster.

Yesterday I didn't feel like Petrino's play calling was that bad...although we aren't running Russell/Washington nearly enough. That seems to be a hallmark of Petrino at least right now...we don't stay committed to the run. Dare I say a Malzahn offense probably fits this team pretty well...but this team won't even remotely be the same next season no matter who the coach is.

Once thing I can gurantee you aint happening...the quarterback is not being coached to throw repeatedly into triple coverage. Those weren't even rushed throws...thy were calculated and mostly 1st reads. The guy is a fucking water head. He hasn't really improved that much from his Boise years. Again...I wish Petrino would return to the years where he was getting the high football IQ guys to run his shit. Falling in love with the athletes is really not helping him. Give me a leader that's tough and gritty...and maybe a guy with a accurate arm that really knows how to see the field.


Green has been throwing onto triple coverage all year. He seems to want to "thread the needle" instead of seeing a wide open receiver. He doesn't seem to see the field very well at times. Like others have said, he will make an outstanding play and then turn around and shit the bed.
Well, shit...

bigpig

Debates about Green are moot because he's not going to be QB next year, no matter who is coach
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jethro

At least I have not seen anyone pumping Coach Prime lately.

Feral

https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/

Our boy goes IN on everything and is effectively in "burn it down" mode.

Cliff notes:
- literally everything about this program sucks (stadium atmosphere, NIL, culture, etc)
- Everyone has to go, starting with Yurachek
- Petrino isn't the guy, and really hasn't done that great of a job as OC.
- head coaches who call plays aren't successful in modern college football
- we're not a good job anymore and have severe limitations with our recruiting footprint that have been exacerbated by the last 2 conference expansions
- best possible hire might be a coordinator at this moment
- State is still a possible win because they're somehow out-Arkansas'ing Arkansas.

Borenutz

To me, Petrino is a high floor hire. We know he's going to work his ass off. Ceiling may not be as high as it once was, but this may not be the year to get the high ceiling guy. There's certainly a lot of low floor guys we could hire. With that said, I'd still support a new guy, but the names mentioned so far seem underwhelming and not much of an upgrade.

Barton Fink

Quote from: Borenutz on Oct 26, 2025, 05:27 PMTo me, Petrino is a high floor hire. We know he's going to work his ass off. Ceiling may not be as high as it once was, but this may not be the year to get the high ceiling guy. There's certainly a lot of low floor guys we could hire. With that said, I'd still support a new guy, but the names mentioned so far seem underwhelming and not much of an upgrade.

Well said

HogOfWar

Quote from: Feral on Oct 26, 2025, 05:12 PMhttps://www.fayvillains.com/2025/10/26/the-day-after-now-the-coaching-search-can-really-begin/

Our boy goes IN on everything and is effectively in "burn it down" mode.

Cliff notes:
- literally everything about this program sucks (stadium atmosphere, NIL, culture, etc)
- Everyone has to go, starting with Yurachek
- Petrino isn't the guy, and really hasn't done that great of a job as OC.
- head coaches who call plays aren't successful in modern college football
- we're not a good job anymore and have severe limitations with our recruiting footprint that have been exacerbated by the last 2 conference expansions
- best possible hire might be a coordinator at this moment
- State is still a possible win because they're somehow out-Arkansas'ing Arkansas.

He was such a Pittman Homer/apologist.

How can a coach who was just the OC two weeks ago hand off play calling duties? Tell me that.

He is not better than the rest of the Arkansas Media. Safe to call everything out now, but before the Memphis loss, he was loving him some Pittman.
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bigpig

Quote from: HogOfWar on Oct 26, 2025, 05:30 PMHe was such a Pittman Homer/apologist.

How can a coach who was just the OC two weeks ago hand off play calling duties? Tell me that.

He is not better than the rest of the Arkansas Media. Safe to call everything out now, but before the Memphis loss, he was loving him some Pittman.

He's been pretty well and truly off the bandwagon since Memphis, but wasn't high on him returning after last year either
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