Grandpa Petrino Doesn't Give a Frick what you think....

[Thin Red Swine]

That was early Bert. What was that fuckers name?

Ben Herbert. 

[Barton Fink]

I think someone came away with a foot from that. One legged squats or something.

[Zoso]

That was early Bert. What was that fuckers name?

Mother...Mother Fucker.

[BASS]

Ben Herbert. 

Goddammit, that's him

[TC]

Ben Herbert. 

The Freaks Come Out at Night was badass, though, until we started breaking feet.

After the Bret break-up Herbert got hired by Harbaugh pretty quickly at Michigan, where he ended up getting a Natty.

He's coaching now at San Diego, still with Harbaugh.

[bigpig]

The Freaks Come Out at Night was badass, though, until we started breaking feet.

After the Bret break-up Herbert got hired by Harbaugh pretty quickly at Michigan, where he ended up getting a Natty.

He's coaching now at San Diego, still with Harbaugh.

Seems like the problem was with the HC, to the surprise of no one.

[piglosopher]

Bert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.

I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.

[DRYANKNPULL]

Bert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.

I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.

It was so frustrating. I know defense wins championships but you have to have a dynamic offense to be competitive. Bert was so unprepared for the sec. He said, "Look what I did at Wisconsin. Hold my 30 pack and watch what me do the same at Arkansas. And I can do it with no effort."

[DirkPiggler]

It was so frustrating. I know defense wins championships but you have to have a dynamic offense to be competitive. Bert was so unprepared for the sec. He said, "Look what I did at Wisconsin. Hold my 30 pack and watch what me do the same at Arkansas. And I can do it with no effort."

We are never going to be able to consistently win with good defenses.  There just aren't enough quality defensive linemen and linebackers to go around.  Most of them get picked up by Alabama, Georgia, texass, etc.

The equalizer with a program like ours is a bad ass offense.  Fast guys (if you aren't worried too much about size) and QBs who can run and throw a little are a dime a dozen.  Sign as many of those as you can, spread the field to make it impossible to cover them all, and find ways to get them the ball. Something like feed the studs has a nice ring to it.

[Feral]

I was a big fan of Veltkamp. I didn't like getting pushed around by Bama or LSU, but a lot of teams did. According to former players, he focused a lot on speed, flexibility, and agility. Those teams were usually nails in the second half, especially in the 4th quarter.

Conversely, I was an OG Ben Herbert darksider. He overrotated on pure squat and bench numbers and paid little to no attention on speed and conditioning. Just like Sam, we blew a shitload of second half leads under Bert because we'd run out of gas, and our linemen could squat cars but couldn't block small, quick ends in pass pro. Remember when our pass blocking would get eaten alive by the likes of Sanford and Toledo?

I actually liked Sam's first two guys he brought with him from Georgia. They had their work cut out for them after Morris had remade us into an FCS team physically, and they turned us around from an S&C standpoint almost immediately. They ended up being the fall guys after our disappointing 2022 season, only to end up hiring Sowders.

[BleedinRed]

Plus, Herbert killed a house plant by feeding it candy bars and cigarettes.  As a conservationist I can never forgive him for that.

[DirkPiggler]

I was a big fan of Veltkamp. I didn't like getting pushed around by Bama or LSU, but a lot of teams did. According to former players, he focused a lot on speed, flexibility, and agility. Those teams were usually nails in the second half, especially in the 4th quarter.

Conversely, I was an OG Ben Herbert darksider. He overrotated on pure squat and bench numbers and paid little to no attention on speed and conditioning. Just like Sam, we blew a shitload of second half leads under Bert because we'd run out of gas, and our linemen could squat cars but couldn't block small, quick ends in pass pro. Remember when our pass blocking would get eaten alive by the likes of Sanford and Toledo?

I actually liked Sam's first two guys he brought with him from Georgia. They had their work cut out for them after Morris had remade us into an FCS team physically, and they turned us around from an S&C standpoint almost immediately. They ended up being the fall guys after our disappointing 2022 season, only to end up hiring Sowders.

I'd love to know the truth about what happened with Jamil Walker.  The party line was that he was undermining other coaches to the players.  If true, that is a situation where you truly do have to fire the guy. By the same token I can completely sympathize with the guy who's in charge of making guys work hard (at least in offseason) being frustrated with the apparent lack of direction and discipline from the on-field coaching staff.

[DirkPiggler]

Plus, Herbert killed a house plant by feeding it candy bars and cigarettes.  As a conservationist I can never forgive him for that.

I actually thought that was kind of funny.  Completely anti-scientific of course, but sometimes it takes a retard to reach other retards.

[Feral]

Plus, Herbert killed a house plant by feeding it candy bars and cigarettes.  As a conservationist I can never forgive him for that.

I always thought that plant thing was a stupid ass example.

Like, yeah, if you give a plant HUMAN food it's going to die. Doesn't matter if it's candy or kale. Conversely, if you feed a human some plant food, they're also going to die.

[HTL]

https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/03/05/ben-herbert-has-a-great-illustration-every-strength-coach-can-borrow

The Black Room! Two caught a foot, one regressed significantly, and one never did anything. Body by Herb.

[HTL]

I always thought that plant thing was a stupid ass example.

Like, yeah, if you give a plant HUMAN food it's going to die. Doesn't matter if it's candy or kale. Conversely, if you feed a human some plant food, they're also going to die.

Yeah, people like you and me probably see things more literal than the people he's working with.

[Texzilla]

Bert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.

I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.

Bert had the right attitude but the wrong solutions for his naive view of the SEC and how to compete against powerhouses like Alabama.  He was too locked into the Barry Alvarez / Michigan game.  His attack on the hunh was stupid; it's a great tactic to offset the endless substitutions of better deeper teams at the top in the SEC.

I liked his emphasis on a powerful OLine and running game.  I thought his history of raising nfl o linemen would be our calling card.  He failed there because of his other failures, primarily his disregard of strength and stamina. The Heat murdered him and he gave that squad too much time off.

He had two masterful playbooks in the archive, and could have learned from Gus as well.  JFB had the same issue against the SWC, and figured it out.  Recruit Texas heavy with HS coaching networks, speed to the ball, brains, no turnovers or dumb penalties, and stamina.  BMFP showed how to do it with great quarterback play and a big playbook. 

In the end he was brought down by his arrogance, stubborness, and laziness. 

[HOGSRUNWILD]

In the timespan of less than two weeks, I have gone from completely hopeless to brimming with hope.  Surely it will be a huge letdown, but it is an odd feeling after years of hopelessness and general "meh".

I mean, I KNOW we aren't going to win many of the games remaining on our schedule...but the hope that we could look like we give a shit and know kinda what we know what we are doing gives me a tingly feeling.

[Son of Spam]

In the timespan of less than two weeks, I have gone from completely hopeless to brimming with hope.  Surely it will be a huge letdown, but it is an odd feeling after years of hopelessness and general "meh".

I mean, I KNOW we aren't going to win many of the games remaining on our schedule...but the hope that we could look like we give a shit and know kinda what we know what we are doing gives me a tingly feeling.

You should know better. "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." 

[Lurk]

Bert hated the hurry up / Gus malzahn offense and it was like he built his teams to go a completely different direction just to make a point. The whole "we'll kick your ass if you don't have a fullback" etc.

I get it but he was so stubborn about it to the point of sabotage.

I actually thought he didn't run enough Power I. Our running backs were awesome with a lead blocker. Besides the Texas Tech game we were majority pro set.