World Cup

Started by Hogfan58, Jun 06, 2026, 01:49 PM

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One Quarter

Quote from: BleedinRed on Jun 20, 2026, 04:25 PMI don't know the finer details of the game.  What I do know is if a really fast guy out runs another fast guy he should be entitled to receive a pass from anywhere on the field.  This having to wait to outrun my guy until my team kicks the ball down the field is bullshit. 

Really fast guys already outrun other really fast guys, and receive passes from all over the field, all the time under the offside rule.  The rule just requires them to time their runs, like a WR can't jog behind the defense before the snap in football.  Without offside, fast guys beating other fast guys to a pass would happen far less and maybe never, because there would be no reason to ever have players, however fast, in the middle of the field.

The strategy without offside would be: park the GK plus 5 tall defenders and 5 tall attackers in each goal box, and wait for a hoof-ball from the other end of the field.  Then, there'd be a header contest, a scrum for the ball, and either a goal, a corner, or yet another long boot to the other end of the field.  It could be some kind of sport, but it wouldn't be soccer.

BleedinRed

I hear you.  I've spent zero time assessing the consequences of doing away with the offside penalty.   I'm basing my comments on the handful of times when I have watched soccer and seen a great pass and score get nullified because the receiving/scoring player was 1 millimeter ahead of the closest defender. 

Surely "they" can come up with rules to prevent the negative consequences you laid out.

I would also like to see the game shift from 99% passing at midfield, the defense kicking the ball out of play any time they are in an unfavorable position, and flopping.

Well, I think that's all the cans of worms I can open here.  After reading my response, OQ's head is about to explode I'm sure.   ;D

GO USA!!!!

Pig Benis

Quote from: BleedinRed on Jun 21, 2026, 09:26 AMI hear you.  I've spent zero time assessing the consequences of doing away with the offside penalty.   I'm basing my comments on the handful of times when I have watched soccer and seen a great pass and score get nullified because the receiving/scoring player was 1 millimeter ahead of the closest defender. 

Surely "they" can come up with rules to prevent the negative consequences you laid out.

I would also like to see the game shift from 99% passing at midfield, the defense kicking the ball out of play any time they are in an unfavorable position, and flopping.

Well, I think that's all the cans of worms I can open here.  After reading my response, OQ's head is about to explode I'm sure.   ;D

GO USA!!!!

They just need to start calling backcourt.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

The Reverend SnoopHogg

Quote from: Pig Benis on Jun 21, 2026, 09:47 AMThey just need to start calling backcourt.

Or a 3 second lane violation.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: One Quarter on Jun 21, 2026, 12:28 AMReally fast guys already outrun other really fast guys, and receive passes from all over the field, all the time under the offside rule.  The rule just requires them to time their runs, like a WR can't jog behind the defense before the snap in football.  Without offside, fast guys beating other fast guys to a pass would happen far less and maybe never, because there would be no reason to ever have players, however fast, in the middle of the field.

The strategy without offside would be: park the GK plus 5 tall defenders and 5 tall attackers in each goal box, and wait for a hoof-ball from the other end of the field.  Then, there'd be a header contest, a scrum for the ball, and either a goal, a corner, or yet another long boot to the other end of the field.  It could be some kind of sport, but it wouldn't be soccer.

And a lot of lower level soccer already looks like this. Having coached more youth league than I could have ever imagined, my experience is that the hardest thing to teach is staying in position rather than chasing the ball everywhere.

I think the offside rule could be tweaked so that only the more obvious violations are called, but it is absolutely essential. I geek out on watching a defense set a high line and force an offside.


BASS

Quote from: Pig Benis on Jun 21, 2026, 09:47 AMThey just need to start calling backcourt.

That would be a good rule. It's chicken shit to kick it back into your own zone to reset.
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Thin Red Swine

Quote from: BASS on Jun 21, 2026, 04:45 PMThat would be a good rule. It's chicken shit to kick it back into your own zone to reset.

Or it's a key maneuver to switch the ball to the other side of the field.


BASS

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jun 21, 2026, 04:58 PMOr it's a key maneuver to switch the ball to the other side of the field.



Yeah but as a fan I'd rather see more takeaways
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BleedinRed

Quote from: Pig Benis on Jun 21, 2026, 09:47 AMThey just need to start calling backcourt.
Was going to mention this as well but thought that might be a bridge too far.  I need my water on tonight.  

Hogfan58

Messi misses a pen that would make him the all-time leading WC goal scorer. Proves he's human.
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Cornhogio

Argentina are some dirty mother fuckers.
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Hogfan58

Quote from: Cornhogio on Jun 22, 2026, 12:55 PMArgentina are some dirty mother fuckers.

They are masters of soccer's "dark arts". Hard fouls, hard tackles, no cards.
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DrMongoose

Check your damn blood pressure!

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GeoHogsGeo

Ronaldo found some youth today.

buff2.0

"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

BASS

Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: GeoHogsGeo on Today at 12:58 PMRonaldo found some youth today.

To be fair, his cheeks and forehead are only like 3 years old.