2023-24 Razorback basketball

Started by Pig Benis, Jun 26, 2023, 01:58 PM

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SwahiliSteve

Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 06, 2024, 11:18 AMThis isn't anything new.  Over Muss' 4 years here every year there is talk about a player having words with Muss during a game.  Where there is smoke and all that...
I mean Muss is pretty big hot head. I wouldn't be surprised if he has anger management issues or is bipolar and hits his players
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

Elblancodiablo

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Feb 06, 2024, 12:53 PMI mean Muss is pretty big hot head. I wouldn't be surprised if he has anger management issues or is bipolar and hits his players
I hope he goes full Bobby Knight on these assholes.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 06, 2024, 01:54 PMI hope he goes full Bobby Knight on these assholes.

Won't work.  Why?  You never heard a player refer to Knight as "Bob, Bobby, or Knight" like ours say Muss.

BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 06, 2024, 02:01 PMWon't work.  Why?  You never heard a player refer to Knight as "Bob, Bobby, or Knight" like ours say Muss.

Well, they are professionals now.  I don't call my "boss" "boss".  I call him by his first name.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Feb 06, 2024, 02:12 PMWell, they are professionals now.  I don't call my "boss" "boss".  I call him by his first name.

And what would you do if your boss had a screaming cussing fit at you in front of thousands of people?

BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 06, 2024, 02:14 PMAnd what would you do if your boss had a screaming cussing fit at you in front of thousands of people?

"Suck my dick"


TC


Quote from: Guardrail on Feb 06, 2024, 09:05 AMWhen you let a malcontent, petulant, quitter keep driving the drama you deserve to have a shitass team atmosphere. Bipolar, gay, autistic, narcoleptic, WTF-ever "disorder" people have, use it as a crutch to be an asshole or to rationalize poor behavior or expect preferential treatment because "I have issues". Guess what, everybody has issues.
That's a you issue.
If you can't manage to follow directions, run a designed set play, quit making bonehead erors, stay awake, show up on time, use Excel, etc,. then I need to find somebody who can. If it hurts your feelings and you get mad and stomp out because you throw tantrums because "I'm mad, you're mean for making me do something required by my job and you told me to do it," then by god you need to move on.
I let you back to work with the rest of the team after doing that not once, but twice? I'm not getting respect from anybody.
 

I couldn't have said it better myself.

animal

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Feb 06, 2024, 02:01 PMWon't work.  Why?  You never heard a player refer to Knight as "Bob, Bobby, or Knight" like ours say Muss.
Even in pro sports coaches are usually referred to as "coach". If they ever coached you they are coach and that is the way it is now until the end of time.

There are coaches I had 30 years ago if I were to see them today they would still be Coach XYZ to me. If I hated their guts they would still be Coach Assface or something. But you give them that respect.





"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Barton Fink

Too much Petrino. A little more Pittman. Got it.

animal

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

red death

I cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.

No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court. 

Muss is all bark no bite.  He's a pussy.  Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you.  That word is respect.  Muss has none with this team.  And that won't buff out.

Nolan was all bark and bite.  And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan.  He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.

The recipe for success and failure never changes.  Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has.  The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.

And it's not just coaching.  It's every profession or undertaking in life.
"The very existence of flamethrowers means that somebody somewhere said you know I wan't to set that person over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

George Carlin

Elblancodiablo

Quote from: red death on Feb 06, 2024, 04:42 PMI cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.

No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court. 

Muss is all bark no bite.  He's a pussy.  Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you.  That word is respect.  Muss has none with this team.  And that won't buff out.

Nolan was all bark and bite.  And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan.  He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.

The recipe for success and failure never changes.  Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has.  The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.

And it's not just coaching.  It's every profession or undertaking in life.

Young guys talk too. The new guys next year will know exactly what happened this year. Muss may have ruined himself trying to be nice.

Trigger7672

Quote from: red death on Feb 06, 2024, 04:42 PMI cannot imagine a player telling Nolan Richardson to suck his dick.

No player would've ever cussed Nolan Richardson coming off the court. 

Muss is all bark no bite.  He's a pussy.  Everything in the world comes down to one word to get people to perform for you.  That word is respect.  Muss has none with this team.  And that won't buff out.

Nolan was all bark and bite.  And nobody had more criminals playing for him than Nolan.  He kept them in line and straightened their shit out in life even.

The recipe for success and failure never changes.  Muss has landed himself on the failure side for all the same reasons chad morris, pelphrey and every loser ever coaching has.  The players don't have to listen to him and they know it.

And it's not just coaching.  It's every profession or undertaking in life.


Nolan was also 6'4" 240+ and he was drafted in three different sports professionally. Some guys on the team probably thought they might be able to take him in a fight but they knew it wouldn't be fun or easy. Muss is like 5'6" 150 and everyone who has ever played for him outside of maybe Menifield and Lykes could beat his ass with one arm tied behind their back.

Sus-Scrofa

Quote from: Elblancodiablo on Feb 06, 2024, 06:37 PMYoung guys talk too. The new guys next year will know exactly what happened this year. Muss may have ruined himself trying to be nice.

This is where the hair and nails distraction comes in too.  The Bill Walton John Wooden hair story isn't told over and over just because it's funny.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Trigger7672 on Feb 06, 2024, 07:20 PMNolan was also 6'4" 240+ and he was drafted in three different sports professionally. Some guys on the team probably thought they might be able to take him in a fight but they knew it wouldn't be fun or easy. Muss is like 5'6" 150 and everyone who has ever played for him outside of maybe Menifield and Lykes could beat his ass with one arm tied behind their back.

Then how do you explain how Saban, Holtz and other smallish coaches got guys to perform at such a high level?

The list could go on across multiple sports.

Trigger7672

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Feb 06, 2024, 07:55 PMThen how do you explain how Saban, Holtz and other smallish coaches got guys to perform at such a high level?

The list could go on across multiple sports.

True. I guess respect tends to go out the door when you're losing like this.

animal

Today I learned Patrick Ewing should be the greatest coach that ever lived.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

The Whyte Boar

As a leader you have to hold yourself apart.  You cannot be too close to the players and you can't play favorites.  Guys like Saban and others manage to walk that line between being caring without being too familiar. 

Familiarity breeds contempt.

Trigger7672

Quote from: animal on Feb 06, 2024, 08:46 PMToday I learned Patrick Ewing should be the greatest coach that ever lived.

Well I bet none of his players ever told him to suck their dick.

Hopefully this season is just an anomaly. They obviously went after the wrong players in the portal. Guys from losing programs like Ellis and Battle (a guy who quit Temple in the middle of the season). Offense first players with zero toughness or desire to play defense. I  doubt we see any of the current roster back next season aside from maybe Blocker and Mark.