2023-24 Razorback basketball

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Usafhawg

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 16, 2024, 11:48 AMUnless it's changed in the last few months, the scholarships at P5 programs are four-year deals for high school signees.  They used to be year-to-year, and still are at smaller schools.

Well dang. I totally had that backwards. Thanks for keeping me straight

Elblancodiablo

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Feb 16, 2024, 11:29 AMAgreed.  The free agency is what will kill it, not the money.  Players have been getting paid to some degree for years. 

Universities are committed to initial signees out of high school for four years if the player chooses to stay there.  The player should have some sort of contract to uphold as well. 
Absolutely

DrMongoose

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Quote from: TC on Feb 15, 2024, 10:43 PMSooo, not a bag man then. One was illegal, the other is not.

If you cant afford it, well maybe thats a You of A problem. My guess is this is what has Hog fans mad.

They want to spend YOUR money, not theirs.

This. The kids deserve a piece of the $60 million from the tv deal.
It seems the schools do NOT want to share that and instead have the fans/boosters pay the collective to pay the kids in addition to what fans/booster pay now.
Are head coaches making 4 mill plus giving to the collective and putting their money where their mouth is?

I have two kids at the UofA, but I need to help pay the QB's scholarship (foundation donation) AND the collective to give the kid $500,000 (min) so he will go to school here and if I pay the foundation enough I can buy tickets to watch him play.

But if if my kids need some walk around money or a tutor or shoes or a meal (which athletes get from the athletic dept) they can get jobs right? We have lost our minds.

Fix the seats at bwa, put in cup holders, fix the audio, drop the in game hosts, and put the money into the team if you must instead of a renovation. If the team sucks no one is going to go anyway but RickB
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Show-Me Hog

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it still prohibited for "student athletes" to be paid directly by schools or athletic revenue? The Supreme Court said schools can't stop them from NIL, which is why that loophole opened and private money poured in, but I think official school payments are still NCAA prohibited. As long as there is an NCAA.

DrMongoose

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 17, 2024, 10:16 AMCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't it still prohibited for "student athletes" to be paid directly by schools or athletic revenue? The Supreme Court said schools can't stop them from NIL, which is why that loophole opened and private money poured in, but I think official school payments are still NCAA prohibited. As long as there is an NCAA.

it may be but rev share is the only way I can see this working out and it will take collective bargining.
Ironic that NCAA has nothing to do with Football oversight which is the sport that drives the money and started when the CFA broke off from the NCAA.

The conferences have all the power now but they want nothing to do with rule enforcement which is ultimately what the problem is - who sets the rules and then who will enforce them? We see schools break the rules all the time now so I don't know why if congress does make a national NIL rule anyone think then the issue is solved. Schools will still break the rules and who enforces it then if it's a federal law? I remember Long in a full staff meeting telling coaches if they didn't commit at least 12 rules violations (minor ones but still a violation is a violation) then we weren't trying hard enough.

Football is the issue and the playing field has never been level nor will it ever but how or can you seperate football and still fund all the other sports on campus?
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 16, 2024, 06:33 AMBest case we go 3-4 in the final games.  Unless we win a couple in the SECT this is going to end up as a losing season.  Should have raised funds for the arena upgrade last year.

Yeah, we just dipped below and probably won't get back to it again. Well, I guess maybe if we beat Missouri and Vanderbilt back to back at home after losing to Aggy.

So pathetic.

HogOfWar

Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 17, 2024, 11:25 AMit may be but rev share is the only way I can see this working out and it will take collective bargining.
Ironic that NCAA has nothing to do with Football oversight which is the sport that drives the money and started when the CFA broke off from the NCAA.

The conferences have all the power now but they want nothing to do with rule enforcement which is ultimately what the problem is - who sets the rules and then who will enforce them? We see schools break the rules all the time now so I don't know why if congress does make a national NIL rule anyone think then the issue is solved. Schools will still break the rules and who enforces it then if it's a federal law? I remember Long in a full staff meeting telling coaches if they didn't commit at least 12 rules violations (minor ones but still a violation is a violation) then we weren't trying hard enough.

Football is the issue and the playing field has never been level nor will it ever but how or can you seperate football and still fund all the other sports on campus?

Mr. Integrity telling coaches to commit violations. That's rich.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

Show-Me Hog

Saturday's game – if I wanted to go – what should I expect to pay?  I literally thought with our season, and the SEC WINLESS Missourah Tigahs, it would be "next to free."

I use several ticket apps. The first I looked at TFL (TicketsForLess) starts at 50-something in the nosebleeds and 200 in the lower bowl.  What. The. Fuck.  This isn't Arkansas-Kentucky when we're both in the Top 10.

Then I checked SeatGeek and things are much more reasonable, numerous listings start in the 20s but those all look like upper deck.

There are several others I could check but thought I would crowd source for info first. Thoughts? What should I be paying? Also, in the current iteration of BWA, which I attend less than I do RRS, can you buy upper and sit lower if there are empty rows?

BASS

I used seat geek for the Tennessee game in the bud. $11 each for upper deck behind the goal.  The fees and taxes weren't bad, $64 something was the checkout total.

So few people showed up we went down to the lower bowl on the side court after the game started and no one said a word. Granted, we didn't plop down in the front row either.
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: BASS on Feb 21, 2024, 01:23 PM$11 each for upper deck behind the goal.  The fees and taxes weren't bad, $64 something was the checkout total.

Thanks. I would pay 64 but nearly tripling the total from 22 to 64 doesn't seem reasonable in terms of fees and taxes.

abnormal hog

Quote from: buff2.0 on Feb 16, 2024, 06:33 AMBest case we go 3-4 in the final games.  Unless we win a couple in the SECT this is going to end up as a losing season.  Should have raised funds for the arena upgrade last year.

Not so fast. If we win our last 3 home games (Mizzou, Vandy and LSU)we go into SEC tournament 1 game above 500, so looks like 500 season at worst. Of course we'll probably do a WTF in one of those games :suicide:

BASS

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Feb 21, 2024, 01:35 PMThanks. I would pay 64 but nearly tripling the total from 22 to 64 doesn't seem reasonable in terms of fees and taxes.

My bad, there were 4 of us.
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

HogOfWar

The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

Usafhawg


buff2.0

Did they help him pray away the gay?
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

egregious

Oddly enough that approximates a position he has spent a lot of time in.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

BleedinRed


animal

Quote from: egregious on Feb 23, 2024, 06:56 AMOddly enough that approximates a position he has spent a lot of time in.
Reverse cowboy? Yuck
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

HogOfWar

The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

The Whyte Boar

Good for him.  It is more important.