2023-24 Razorback basketball

Started by Pig Benis, Jun 26, 2023, 01:58 PM

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Corn Pop

Chris Beard just signed a new contract with Ole Piss. Scratch him off the wish list if Muss moves on.
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DrMongoose

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Quote from: Corn Pop on Mar 16, 2024, 06:53 PMChris Beard just signed a new contract with Ole Piss. Scratch him off the wish list if Muss moves on.

Depends on the buyout. Seriously doubt he is long term in Oxford, the job is not that good. (9 ncaa tournaments, 1 sweet 16 but hey 13 NITs - all time record 1338-1340.
It is only 4 years per state law and the fact they didn't disclose details is interesting and won't stop the phone from ringing
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Borenutz

Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 16, 2024, 08:48 PMDepends on the buyout. Seriously doubt he is long term in Oxford, the job is not that good. (9 ncaa tournaments, 1 sweet 16 but hey 13 NITs - all time record 1338-1340.
It is only 4 years per state law and the fact they didn't disclose details is interesting and won't stop the phone from ringing

Not like it would be the first time for him to jump ship after a new contract.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: DrMongoose on Mar 16, 2024, 08:48 PMDepends on the buyout. Seriously doubt he is long term in Oxford, the job is not that good. (9 ncaa tournaments, 1 sweet 16 but hey 13 NITs - all time record 1338-1340.
It is only 4 years per state law and the fact they didn't disclose details is interesting and won't stop the phone from ringing

The state of Mississippi apparently allows schools to hide their coaches contracts from FOIA through their athletic foundations.
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BleedinRed

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 17, 2024, 09:51 AMThe state of Mississippi apparently allows schools to hide their coaches contracts from FOIA through their athletic foundations.
How can you be an employee of a school and that school not have any record of your employment.  That is essentially what the school is saying.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 11:04 AMHow can you be an employee of a school and that school not have any record of your employment.  That is essentially what the school is saying.

I agree.  It seems sketchy at best. 

Some journalists tried to get the info from OM regarding Beard's buyout on his original deal and kept getting stonewalled for this reason. 
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Pig Benis

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 11:04 AMHow can you be an employee of a school and that school not have any record of your employment.  That is essentially what the school is saying.

I'm assuming his actual salary(which is probably minimal) from the school is public info but the portion from the "Rebel Foundation" is what they aren't disclosing.
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BleedinRed

In that scenario he is an employee of the school and also an employee of the Rebel Foundation?  He technically has two employers?

I wonder who holds out and pays taxes.  Does he receive two W-2s?

animal

Quote from: Pig Benis on Mar 17, 2024, 11:40 AMI'm assuming his actual salary(which is probably minimal) from the school is public info but the portion from the "Rebel Foundation" is what they aren't disclosing.
If they are paying in public money then I'd think there would be no basis to reject FOIA requests. Then again in Arkansas our new governor is passing laws to help insulate her shenanigans with state funds from what I understand. This may help in aid with coaches salaries in the future?




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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 12:00 PMIn that scenario he is an employee of the school and also an employee of the Rebel Foundation?  He technically has two employers?

I wonder who holds out and pays taxes.  Does he receive two W-2s?

Same thing is done at Arkansas.  State employees are capped at something around $300k for maximum salary.  So coaches are employees of the school and employees of the foundation. 

This has been done at Arkansas for at least forty years.  I thought everyone knew this.

Lurk

Beards agent knows how much it is. He's the only one that matters. If Muss leaves, surely we can outbid Mississippi.
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Pig Benis

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 17, 2024, 12:00 PMIn that scenario he is an employee of the school and also an employee of the Rebel Foundation?  He technically has two employers?

I wonder who holds out and pays taxes.  Does he receive two W-2s?

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's how we've done it for years. Muss's salary from the U of A may be $500k and the other ~4MM comes from a contract with the Razorback Foundation which is a private entity.

Edit: Whyte Boar beat me to it and explained it better.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

The Whyte Boar

People thought Bert's buyout was one thing because of the contract he had with the school.  Then they discovered it was something else because someone had made a cut-and-paste error and failed to paste the same language into the Foundation contract. 

mde114

Quote from: Lurk on Mar 17, 2024, 12:14 PMBeards agent knows how much it is. He's the only one that matters. If Muss leaves, surely we can outbid Mississippi.

Why would you think we could outbid Mississippi?

buff2.0

We kept Pittman, what makes anyone think we'd pay Beard's buyout to hire him?
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 03:46 PMWhy would you think we could outbid Mississippi?

Why would you think we couldn't if we chose to do so?
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mde114

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 17, 2024, 03:56 PMWhy would you think we couldn't if we chose to do so?

Recent coaching hires and our broke ass NIL.

DirkPiggler

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Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 04:07 PMRecent coaching hires and our broke ass NIL.

Extenuating circumstances on the coaching hires.  We have always paid well when coaches perform.  We're paying a hell of a lot more per win than most of the league, in football at least.

This isn't football though.  We have yet to cheap out on basketball. 

I believe there is a faction that provides a ton of our money for NIL and the like who realizes that we will never be a national power in football and directs their investments towards sports where success is a legitimate possibility.
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Lurk

Quote from: mde114 on Mar 17, 2024, 03:46 PMWhy would you think we could outbid Mississippi?
They just had to pay Joey Freshwater.
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It is Ole Miss, so the question is...is Sexton Beard's agent?
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