Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

Started by animal, Mar 08, 2023, 07:47 PM

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animal

What does Matt Painter's contract look like? I don't know that he really fits what Kentucky looks for but hell who knows. 



Dennis Gates picked a really bad year to turn in a Cleveland steamer of shit, he was on a trajectory toward bigger and better gigs than Missouri. One bad year can really set a feller back.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 04:03 PMOne bad year can really set a feller back.

I dunno, sometimes it can take you from bumfuck backwater Arkinsaw to the bright lights of LA.

obijuana

It must be a good feeling to have "fuck you" money and be able to change the moods of so many people.
I'm sorry Elvis......for all of it.

animal

By my count Nolan was 60 years old upon his exit because he was old and washed up, lost that fire in his belly. My how times have changed. We just hired a 65 year old who saved face by leaving Kentucky without them having to fire him and will likely be semi-retired while working at Arkansas. Must be nice for a white man to get paid that well to cruise into his golden years. :))

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 05:21 PMBy my count Nolan was 60 years old upon his exit because he was old and washed up, lost that fire in his belly. My how times have changed. We just hired a 65 year old who saved face by leaving Kentucky without them having to fire him and will likely be semi-retired while working at Arkansas. Must be nice for a white man to get paid that well to cruise into his golden years. :))



Nolan was wedded to a system that rules changes kept from being as effective, and refused to recruit in a world that had moved on from high schools to AAU teams and handlers.

He didn't adapt.

animal

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 08, 2024, 05:30 PMNolan was wedded to a system that rules changes kept from being as effective, and refused to recruit in a world that had moved on from high schools to AAU teams and handlers.

He didn't adapt.
That's very true and he taught Mike Anderson to not adapt too. Mike probably would have been better off staying at Missouri instead of coming back and playing the part.

 


"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: animal on Apr 08, 2024, 05:38 PMThat's very true and he taught Mike Anderson to not adapt too. Mike probably would have been better off staying at Missouri instead of coming back and playing the part.

 




NGL, still confused about why it worked better at UAB and Missouri and didn't work here.

I don't think it was lack of effort on his part, and he had far better resources here.

wmr

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 08, 2024, 11:55 AMSame, didn't appreciate at all that he was being paid incredibly well in an elite job.  If Menifield's comment is true...  yuck. Wish him the worst.

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Usafhawg

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Apr 08, 2024, 05:30 PMNolan was wedded to a system that rules changes kept from being as effective, and refused to recruit in a world that had moved on from high schools to AAU teams and handlers.

He didn't adapt.

So far you could say the same about Calipari and not adapting to bringing in older portal players. His system of freshmen only isn't working these days. Hopefully he can adapt here.

Barton Fink

Oats issues a statement to stay at Bama

rzrbkfan69

Quote from: Usafhawg on Apr 08, 2024, 07:32 PMSo far you could say the same about Calipari and not adapting to bringing in older portal players. His system of freshmen only isn't working these days. Hopefully he can adapt here.

Two years ago he had one of the oldest rosters in the game with several transfers. He's been adapting.

RazorB

Quote from: Trigger7672 on Apr 08, 2024, 07:50 AMKentucky is the best basketball job in the country. I think they'll find a good coach.

Let's hope they find another long line of Billy Gillespies.

TC

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Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 08:09 PMOats issues a statement to stay at Bama

He got shitty advice, or UK's first offer was too low.

For you basketball gurus...Who's UK's #1 target? Man that's gonna be a tough gig to follow.

Donovan has to be a joke. He's been out of the game too long.

Lurk

Quote from: TC on Apr 08, 2024, 11:03 PMHe got shitty advice, or UK's first offer was too low.

For you basketball gurus...Who's UK's #1 target? Man that's gonna be a tough gig to follow.

Donovan has to be a joke. He's been out of the game too long.
Scott Drew
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Barton Fink

I don't think Donovan is the answer either. NIL + transfer portal = a lot more work for college coaches. NBA is a much easier job these days. Even to your point, I don't see him coming in and having immediate success.

Drew is not overwhelming. He's a decent coach but would be a step rdown from Cal in my opinion. I think KY will regret pushing Cal out.

Trigger7672

Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 09, 2024, 08:22 AMI don't think Donovan is the answer either. NIL + transfer portal = a lot more work for college coaches. NBA is a much easier job these days. Even to your point, I don't see him coming in and having immediate success.

Drew is not overwhelming. He's a decent coach but would be a step rdown from Cal in my opinion. I think KY will regret pushing Cal out.

NBA is easier except for the whole 82+ games thing. He's also not exactly setting the world on fire in Chicago.

animal

Drew makes the most sense.

Donovan would have to end his NBA job early to take that job. I don't even think he wants college ball anymore.

Jay Wright might be a possibility but I don't think he wants back into the fire.


That leaves Pearl, Beard, McDermott, maybe dude at Illinois. Oats has already turned it down.

And then you get into a slew of mid majors and underwhelming P5 coaches...


If Beard misses on this he's going to regret not taking the Arkansas gig. His name isn't even being mentioned.





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DirkPiggler

Quote from: animal on Apr 09, 2024, 08:43 AMDrew makes the most sense.

Donovan would have to end his NBA job early to take that job. I don't even think he wants college ball anymore.

Jay Wright might be a possibility but I don't think he wants back into the fire.


That leaves Pearl, Beard, McDermott, maybe dude at Illinois. Oats has already turned it down.

And then you get into a slew of mid majors and underwhelming P5 coaches...


If Beard misses on this he's going to regret not taking the Arkansas gig. His name isn't even being mentioned.







If we really knew Cal was interested as soon as Muss resigned, was Beard ever really an option?  Or did he just use our "interest" to get another raise and more NIL out of Ole Miss?

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Mazeppa Pompazoidi

Quote from: Barton Fink on Apr 08, 2024, 08:09 PMOats issues a statement to stay at Bama

Quote from: TC on Apr 08, 2024, 11:03 PMHe got shitty advice, or UK's first offer was too low.

For you basketball gurus...Who's UK's #1 target? Man that's gonna be a tough gig to follow.

I've seen several interviews with Oats.  He's a great coach, but he doesn't have the personality needed for that job.

Hogworth Ballington III

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Apr 09, 2024, 08:46 AMIf we really knew Cal was interested as soon as Muss resigned, was Beard ever really an option?  Or did he just use our "interest" to get another raise and more NIL out of Ole Miss?



And I'm perfectly fine with the latter, if that was what happened. We get a coach that can get the job done (or at the very least put us in a much better position of strength than Muss left us in for when we have to do this all again in a few years) and make contracts around the league a little more expensive so that it hopefully tightens the purse strings in other sports. Win win allaround.