Coaching Hot Seat and Searches

[Lurk]

Can you imagine Gruden doing one of those interviews with KJ?

Gruden:  KJ, look at this defense, and tell me what the middle linebacker is going to do if you move the X receiver in motion from left to right in a third and medium.

KJ (wearing candy stripe three piece suit):  I haz Corvette.

That shit right there is hilarious. 

[Bogey7]

Can you imagine Gruden doing one of those interviews with KJ?

Gruden:  KJ, look at this defense, and tell me what the middle linebacker is going to do if you move the X receiver in motion from left to right in a third and medium.

KJ (wearing candy stripe three piece suit):  I haz Corvette. I like Skittles.

[Zoso]

Main thang is ... fuck it Treylon down there somewhere.

That was basically our offense.

[animal]

That was basically our offense.

It's early. Eventually the offense will just be "Fuck it".

[Thin Red Swine]

A couple of wheels are falling off the Gus Bus.

https://x.com/ucfknightnews/status/1850309384359883208?s=46&t=kisRHQ-BH2YlHJQ0hr0_Kg

[vegashog]

making it hard to use arkansas for leverage in the next contract.

[animal]

Some how somewhere Gus went full retarded with his QB choices and development.

Also that offense is a bit out of date now apparently. There are variations of it ran by others that are better.

[piglosopher]

Some how somewhere Gus went full retarded with his QB choices and development.

Also that offense is a bit out of date now apparently. There are variations of it ran by others that are better.

He's never developed a QB. Never been a case of a marked improvement from year one to year two for a QB under Gus Malzahn.


All successful ones were inherited, transfered, or freak of an athlete.

[animal]

This coming season hiring season we could see Oklahoma and Auburn hiring as neither coach is very convincing that they'll impress. I have no idea what Florida's situation is but maybe them too. Point is like usual we'll have waited until other programs are also looking for new marriage arrangements knocking us down the list.

We've got other programs like Missouri and Ole Miss that seem like they are established with their coaches but we're at that 5 or 6 year itch and if neither guy is moving those programs further up the ladder they'll be pressure. Also coaches like those guys tend to lift their skirt after so long.

Kiffin was smart to not go to Alabama following Saban and it's going to be very difficult for them to cut bait. Kiffin would have them over a barrel in the near future...he'll command something like 12 mil per. Bama really fucked the dog on that hire of their current coach and then giving that guy that contract was horrendously stupid. They could have hired me and got the same results. This isn't a ringing endorsement of Kiffin. I think he's a decent coach with an entertaining brand that might be downright dangerous with the type of talent he'd get at Alabama. But he's basically getting that kind of talent already so who knows. Bama was probably headed on a downward path anyway and that's why Saban was smart enough to not overstay. His time had come to move on.

[DirkPiggler]

This coming season hiring season we could see Oklahoma and Auburn hiring as neither coach is very convincing that they'll impress. I have no idea what Florida's situation is but maybe them too. Point is like usual we'll have waited until other programs are also looking for new marriage arrangements knocking us down the list.

We've got other programs like Missouri and Ole Miss that seem like they are established with their coaches but we're at that 5 or 6 year itch and if neither guy is moving those programs further up the ladder they'll be pressure. Also coaches like those guys tend to lift their skirt after so long.

Kiffin was smart to not go to Alabama following Saban and it's going to be very difficult for them to cut bait. Kiffin would have them over a barrel in the near future...he'll command something like 12 mil per. Bama really fucked the dog on that hire of their current coach and then giving that guy that contract was horrendously stupid. They could have hired me and got the same results. This isn't a ringing endorsement of Kiffin. I think he's a decent coach with an entertaining brand that might be downright dangerous with the type of talent he'd get at Alabama. But he's basically getting that kind of talent already so who knows. Bama was probably headed on a downward path anyway and that's why Saban was smart enough to not overstay. His time had come to move on.

Kiffin isn't getting anywhere near the type of talent at Ole Miss that he would at Alabama. 

They probably should have hired him when Saban left, but like you said Lane may have been wise to wait out the first failure.

[vegashog]

bama never even considered kiffin according to their ad. deboer was hired less than 48 hours after saban retired so the deal had to have been struck some time prior to nick hanging it up.

[DirkPiggler]

bama never even considered kiffin according to their ad. deboer was hired less than 48 hours after saban retired so the deal had to have been struck some time prior to nick hanging it up.

Rumor is that Saban nixed Kiffin as an option. 

Shortsighted on his part if true.

I'd prefer to see Kiffin at Alabama.  We're used to losing to them/being below them in the standings.  We need Ole Miss to regress back to their normal spot at the bottom of the middle tier/top of the bottom tier.

[buff2.0]

I bet they throw an entire bank at Dabo before they give Lane a call.  The AD needs to just resign because he's in a can't-win position.  Alabama fans think the Saban era is the norm for them, like LSU fans who forgot what life was like before he was there.  It's a National Championship ever 3-4 years, minimum, or it'll be time for another new coach.

[vegashog]

Rumor is that Saban nixed Kiffin as an option. 

Shortsighted on his part if true.

I'd prefer to see Kiffin at Alabama.  We're used to losing to them/being below them in the standings.  We need Ole Miss to regress back to their normal spot at the bottom of the middle tier/top of the bottom tier.

there's no love lost between the two as far as saban is concerned. when and if the time comes, i bet saban will pretty much be allowed to make the call himself.

i agree dabo could be the guy, two championships, doesn't talk shit on twitter, just wins.

[DirkPiggler]

I bet they throw an entire bank at Dabo before they give Lane a call.  The AD needs to just resign because he's in a can't-win position.  Alabama fans think the Saban era is the norm for them, like LSU fans who forgot what life was like before he was there.  It's a National Championship ever 3-4 years, minimum, or it'll be time for another new coach.

I don't see why Dabo would leave, or why Clemson would let him.  Unlike Alabama, they do seem to remember what happened to their program between Danny Ford's forced departure and Dabo's first good team.

[animal]

I'm just not real high on Dabo and not convinced he would "fix" Bama. From what I understand about Dabo is he's kind of rejected this NIL/Portal shit more so than other schools. He's still focusing on high school talent etc. This doesn't seem like a winning strategy and only would be if he's able to retain those kids for a big run into the future. Clemson had something going on for a while but maybe the clock has struck midnight.

From an outsider perspective it seems completely weird that Bama has gone off the rails like this soon, but we're also in a new NIL/Portal era so shit can change quickly. And by "gone off the rails" I'm not suggesting that Bama is going to go 6-6 or some shit...they'll still probably win 10 games this season at min.

Saban was the Coach K of college football essentially. He saw the writing on the wall and got off the buss. K did the same but really both were retirement age so it's entirely possible that both would have stay longer had they been younger. Arguably neither coach would have enjoyed the same successes that they had prior to the NIL/portal era.

Bama's coach may average 10 wins and still be a huge disappointment. That's why following Saban was going to be difficult for anyone. He'll always be remembered like that too unless he can win a natty. He may not be a terrible coach at all but I'm getting the vibe that maybe that program was too big for him and we're seeing it unfold like that. It wasn't too big for Kiffin who has that experience of prime jobs in which he basically failed at but that prior failures led him to become a more stable option. 

For us I still think Traylor at UTSA may be a very viable option. It'll likely just whelm everyone but I think the guy could be a good under the radar coaching hire. If he jumps up and wins at a decent clip this season he's probably going to be in some conversations at other big jobs. I really wouldn't be mad at either the Ku or K-State coaches getting hired here either. 

[Olhickoryhog]

I think Venables, Freeze, and Napier are on the hottest seats.  Florida's schedule is brutal, and I don't think OU is as good as their ranking.  The loser of the Iron Bowl will probably get fired Bert-style walking off the field.

I imagine Kiffin and Drinkwitz will try to levarage a good year this year to a "better" job for next year.

Regarding Alabama, I saw where one of their former quarterbacks stated he knew for a fact their (Alabama's) NIL was much lower than some of the other conference schools.  I have a difficult time believing that statement, but if it is true, they might be trying to hire a great value Mike DuBose in December.

[Lurk]

Alabama has ALWAYS cheated to get where they are. Now that everyone can pay, they'll have a harder time getting back. You hate to see it.

[DirkPiggler]

Alabama has ALWAYS cheated to get where they are. Now that everyone can pay, they'll have a harder time getting back. You hate to see it.

Same can be said for Auburn. 

[animal]

Alabama has ALWAYS cheated to get where they are. Now that everyone can pay, they'll have a harder time getting back. You hate to see it.

My guess is those programs have to completely overhaul their funding efforts and maybe it's not overly advantageous anymore for some of those that were providing the funding from before to continue into the future thru legitimate means. e.g. it was dirty money

And some would argue that Nick Saban is to be taken at his word that they weren't cheating at all. I don't believe it but when you have the kind of credibility he carried that can have a huge impact.