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Barton Fink

Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 12, 2025, 02:52 PMBut this is what they wanted, right?

I don't think anyone envisioned what we have today. Considering the radio silence from the NCAA, etc , I'm not sure it's fixable.

BleedinRed

I googled "How big is NCAA football from a revenue perspective."

The answer: "From a revenue perspective, college football is a multi-billion dollar business, comparable to major professional sports leagues like the NBA and MLB. The top athletic conferences and individual schools generate massive revenues, primarily driven by lucrative media rights deals and football ticket sales."

Tell me why again the average fan and businesses needs to donate to NIL?  the entire thing is fucked up.

bigpig

Penn State collapsed because the players stopped buying in.

Same thing happened here, and at UCLA, etc.


It's part of the new era. You buy players, but you can't buy heart and grit. They play for money, not pride, and if they perceive the season is going down, they won't hustle or put their body on the line. They'll loaf, they'll be distracted, they'll give up on a play, etc. That's how close losses to good schools become blowouts to good schools or close losses to bad schools.
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Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 12, 2025, 02:10 PMThe year after being in the playoffs & winning two playoff games?

He's had a tough two weeks but that would shock me. He needs Dabo's PR and agent who is having a similar year.

Dabo put a ring on it.

Franklin just let them feel him up in the shower.

piglosopher

Just like the NFL, it's harder to build unity, but still possible. The motivation is financial but so is creating value for yourself. Winning solves all problems.

animal

Start allowing incentives to the players beyond the free agency acquisition and of course the outstanding education they are getting...then I think you might see some "buy in" and less quit. 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

vegashog

uab fires trent dilfer.

the in season firing of coaches has become a thing.

DRYANKNPULL

Getting our firing in early looks like we are first to get in the back of the line.

Barton Fink


Piggielicious

Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 12, 2025, 05:28 PMGetting our firing in early looks like we are first to get in the back of the line.
We had a big jump on Ole Miss last time and still lost out on Kiffin.

buff2.0

"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

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DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: Piggielicious on Oct 12, 2025, 05:42 PMWe had a big jump on Ole Miss last time and still lost out on Kiffin.

That was kind of the point of my....nm

passed

Quote from: bigpig on Oct 12, 2025, 03:19 PMPenn State collapsed because the players stopped buying in.

Same thing happened here, and at UCLA, etc.


It's part of the new era. You buy players, but you can't buy heart and grit. They play for money, not pride, and if they perceive the season is going down, they won't hustle or put their body on the line. They'll loaf, they'll be distracted, they'll give up on a play, etc. That's how close losses to good schools become blowouts to good schools or close losses to bad schools.

This right here.  It's the law of unintended consequences in action.  We all knew the money game was going to make players less loyal and soft.  I'm not sure anyone foresaw the tertiary effects.  Kids quit, coaches get fired, interim comes in and kids play for a bit just to get their next bag... rinse and repeat. 

...but much like Marxism, eventually they're going to run out of other people's money to spend.  Pretty easy to rack up hundreds of millions of debt in a very short time.

Thin Red Swine


TC

There's lots of lions and tigers, but there's only 1...(checks notes)...Nittany Lion!

jdcatty

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 12, 2025, 03:13 PMI googled "How big is NCAA football from a revenue perspective."

The answer: "From a revenue perspective, college football is a multi-billion dollar business, comparable to major professional sports leagues like the NBA and MLB. The top athletic conferences and individual schools generate massive revenues, primarily driven by lucrative media rights deals and football ticket sales."

Tell me why again the average fan and businesses needs to donate to NIL?  the entire thing is fucked up.

Google is not entirely correct in this.  There is great disparity among the various colleges involved with respect to the money available.

That disparity creates an uneven playing field.  Your attitude is why "small" schools like Arkansas stay small.

Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

BleedinRed

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Quote from: jdcatty on Oct 12, 2025, 10:37 PMGoogle is not entirely correct in this.  There is great disparity among the various colleges involved with respect to the money available.

That disparity creates an uneven playing field.  Your attitude is why "small" schools like Arkansas stay small.



It's a multi billion dollar industry.  There is more than enough money to go around without fans and businesses needing to donate to professional athletes. 

College football, like all other professional sports, can figure out how to share the wealth they are already generating. 

People complain the system is broke but I'm the one with the attitude problem.  I don't get that at all. 

One last thing; college players and the WNBA players have one thing in common.  They scream "pay me what I'm worth."   But it appears there really isn't this big pool of money they have been denied.  

DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 13, 2025, 04:31 AMIt's a multi billion dollar industry.  There is more than enough money to go around without fans and businesses needing to donate to professional athletes. 

College football, like all other professional sports, can figure out how to share the wealth they are already generating. 

People complain the system is broke but I'm the one with the attitude problem.  I don't get that at all.

One last thing; college players and the WNBA players have one thing in common.  They scream "pay me what I'm worth."   But it appears there really isn't this big pool of money they have been denied. 

You are right in an ideal world.  That world does not exist and likely never will. 

As long as there is one person willing to work outside the norms (with the ability to do so), there will be another, then another trying to outdo those two, and so on. 

Until they stop keeping score and awarding championship, someone is always going to be willing to do a little bit extra to gain or extend a competitive advantage.
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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 13, 2025, 07:59 AMYou are right in an ideal world.  That world does not exist and likely never will. 

As long as there is one person willing to work outside the norms (with the ability to do so), there will be another, then another trying to outdo those two, and so on. 

Until they stop keeping score and awarding championship, someone is always going to be willing to do a little bit extra to gain or extend a competitive advantage.


This is why the closed, semi-monopolistic professional sports model -- revenue sharing, salary caps, trade (transfer) restrictions, communistic access to talent (draft in reverse order), contracts, tampering rules -- is the only way to maintain competition in a professional sports league.

College football and basketball are a bastard child in between amateurism and professional management right now. It's untenable and who knows how long it will take to get there.

BleedinRed

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 13, 2025, 07:59 AMYou are right in an ideal world.  That world does not exist and likely never will. 

As long as there is one person willing to work outside the norms (with the ability to do so), there will be another, then another trying to outdo those two, and so on. 

Until they stop keeping score and awarding championship, someone is always going to be willing to do a little bit extra to gain or extend a competitive advantage.

Of course you are 100% right.  I'm simply a crotchety old man saying "GET OFF MY LAWN" with this entire thing.  I don't think I'll ever be able to change with the times on where college athletics is going.