2022/2023 Razorback Basketball

Started by Sus-Scrofa, Mar 08, 2023, 04:56 AM

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Quote from: mde114 on Mar 24, 2023, 07:17 AMThose books will also note Bill Self was in the hospital.

Our offensive coordinator wasnt at the second half of the Liberty Bowl. I want the same books to reflect that.
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bigpig

In November, we pegged this a final four team.

We were two games short of it.

It's a disappointment, yes, but all things considered, it could have gone a lot worse. We get a banner. We get to crow about three straight sweet sixteen. We get to keep momentum on the recruiting/portal trail.

We will be fine. Muss will reload. Hopefully, Brazile comes back 100% and we can build a championship-caliber team around him like we wanted to this year.
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Quote from: mde114 on Mar 24, 2023, 07:17 AMThose books will also note Bill Self was in the hospital.

No they won't.

red death

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Quote from: bigpale on Mar 24, 2023, 08:41 AMIn November, we pegged this a final four team.

We were two games short of it.

It's a disappointment, yes, but all things considered, it could have gone a lot worse. We get a banner. We get to crow about three straight sweet sixteen. We get to keep momentum on the recruiting/portal trail.

We will be fine. Muss will reload. Hopefully, Brazile comes back 100% and we can build a championship-caliber team around him like we wanted to this year.

Cosign. 

To be honest at my age now anything north of 7 wins in football and 22 wins in basketball I'll take.  And a sweet 16 appearance?  Major success.

As a basketball school we have been to 12 sweet 16s in the last 50 years.  Before 3 years ago we hadn't been since 1996. 

Eddie had 4 appearances. Nolan, during the pinnacle of success here, had 5.  And he and Muss are the only coaches in school history with 3 consecutive.

That's right.  The last 3 years have been only accomplished 1 other time here during my lifetime. 

I'm thankful that we've had this run.  Anybody expecting more just doesn't understand how difficult it is to do what Muss has done. 

Lock him up.  We have our new Eddie and Nolan.  He is forever cemented already as one of the Mount Rushmore of Razorback basketball coaches.
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Quote from: red death on Mar 24, 2023, 08:55 AMCosign. 

To be honest at my age now anything north of 7 wins in football and 22 wins in basketball I'll take.  And a sweet 16 appearance?  Major success.

As a basketball school we have been to 12 sweet 16s in the last 50 years.  Before 3 years ago we hadn't been since 1996. 

Eddie had 4 appearances. Nolan, during the pinnacle of success here, had 5.  And he and Muss are the only coaches in school history with 3 consecutive.

That's right.  The last 3 years have been only accomplished 1 other time here during my lifetime. 

I'm thankful that we've had this run.  Anybody expecting more just doesn't understand how difficult it is to do what Muss has done. 

Lock him up.  We have our new Eddie and Nolan.  He is forever cemented already as one of the Mount Rushmore of Razorback basketball coaches.
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BASS

As far as the team goes, talk dunning ford, and pinion into staying and let the rest go.

Blocker and wall or whatever his name is plus a slew of transfers and hit reset.
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Sus-Scrofa

Quote from: BASS on Mar 24, 2023, 09:23 AMAs far as the team goes, talk dunning ford, and pinion into staying and let the rest go.

Blocker and wall or whatever his name is plus a slew of transfers and hit reset.

If any of Black/Walsh/Devo/Brazile/Smith want to stay, you'd be insane not to be happy.

red death

Pinion had his moments and flashed what he can do.  Keeper for sure. By the time he's a senior he can be a 15 ppg guy.

Dunning I like.  I see him as a Kamani type battler and junk points guy.  Muss likes his preparation and scouting ability.  He could be the coach on the floor role after Devo.  Needs to work on his shooting though.

Ford's future is a bulldog defender and he has great strength obviously for a point guard and likes contact.  He has to transition from being the biggest in HS to smallest in college and become a set up guy.  Another Corey Beck is his ceiling here.

I wholeheartedly agree with Sus.  Any of the trio and Brazile, Davis, Council coming back would be fantastic. 

I think they all could use another year to get stronger, esp Smith he needs 15 lbs, and polish up some weaknesses.

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vegashog

pinion got iso run on him as soon as he got in the game. 90% of the time he either got blown by or had to foul.

he's going to have to learn to be 'crafty' or 'cerebral' or whatever words are used for a slow white guy on defense.

i still think he and ford stay if muss wants them to.

Gambler

Quote from: vegashog on Mar 24, 2023, 09:58 AMpinion got iso run on him as soon as he got in the game. 90% of the time he either got blown by or had to foul.

he's going to have to learn to be 'crafty' or 'cerebral' or whatever words are used for a slow white guy on defense.

i still think he and ford stay if muss wants them to.
I don't think anyone will ever label Pinion as an elite defender.

Pumpkin Escobar

If Pinion is ever going to get significant playing time, Muss will have to be willing to play zone defense.
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BleedinRed

There are a lot of teams that have slow white boys and that don't play zone.  Pinion, like with Graham, is slow on D.  That is true.  But, both their adds on the offensive end outweighs the three or four times a game they are going to be beat off the dribble or screen. 

If Muss has one bad trait it's that he is going to play his 6 or 7 and if 8 through the end of the bench happens to get in they better not have anything bad happen because they won't play again for games.  The bench players don't get the benefit of the doubt or a little grace.  

Son of Spam

Quote from: BleedinRed on Mar 25, 2023, 03:13 PMThere are a lot of teams that have slow white boys and that don't play zone.  Pinion, like with Graham, is slow on D.  That is true.  But, both their adds on the offensive end outweighs the three or four times a game they are going to be beat off the dribble or screen.

If Muss has one bad trait it's that he is going to play his 6 or 7 and if 8 through the end of the bench happens to get in they better not have anything bad happen because they won't play again for games.  The bench players don't get the benefit of the doubt or a little grace. 
I think he focuses too much on D. A Good defense is great, but you also have to be able to score. Something we couldn't do very well this year.
Well, shit...

vegashog

he doesn't get beat just three or four times a game.

and his per game and 40 minute averages are 5.6 shots made and 5.6 fouls. that's terrible by any metric. he would have to hit like 60% from the field for his offense to outweigh that.

he's not terribly athletic so he needs work on anticipation and not be out of position almost every time someone takes him on the dribble.

Pumpkin Escobar

Pinion lacks lateral quickness, even for a white guy. I don't think he'll ever be an adequate one on one defender. I just don't see a spot up shooter, who can't create his own shot and is a defensive liability, getting much playing time for this coach.
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Son of Spam

Muss needs to go get some ballers, that can play some defense, but can score.
Well, shit...

Gambler

Quote from: Son of Spam on Mar 26, 2023, 06:46 PMMuss needs to go get some ballers, that can play some defense, but can score.
Saw some guy from Rice was supposed to be getting a look, averaged 18. Not great shooting % 

Barton Fink

Quote from: Gambler on Mar 26, 2023, 06:59 PMSaw some guy from Rice was supposed to be getting a look, averaged 18. Not great shooting % 

He would be a solid pickup. He shot 41/36/79. That's not bad for a guard. He's got good size and rebounds well.

vegashog

says the coaches will be in houston tomorrow to visit.  a guard from fiu says he'll get an in home visit this week also.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897493/denver-jones

Son of Spam

We need to find a quick PG who can drive, dish, and score. Then we need a killer three point guy. And a big man on the inside that can defend, rebound, and score. That is what a the teams that made it have. And it shows a glaring difference in what we had.
Well, shit...