2023 High School Football

[Too Big Pig]

Seriously, how does that work?  Is it like soccer where teams that win move up and teams that lose get demoted?

It's the Competitive Equity Factor that was voted in place for private schools rather than just the multiplier.

Over a two year look back, five points is considered dominant. If a team accrues enough points and is considered dominant, they would move up one classification.

The points awarded for competitive equity are as follows:

1 point: A winning conference record
2 points: A state playoff or state tournament win
3 points: A state championship game appearance
4 points: A state champion

A team can earn a maximum of four points in a season.

[BleedinRed]

It's the Competitive Equity Factor that was voted in place for private schools rather than just the multiplier.

Over a two year look back, five points is considered dominant. If a team accrues enough points and is considered dominant, they would move up one classification.

The points awarded for competitive equity are as follows:

1 point: A winning conference record
2 points: A state playoff or state tournament win
3 points: A state championship game appearance
4 points: A state champion

A team can earn a maximum of four points in a season.

fascinating.  Thanks for the explanation. 

So after this upcoming season they could be relegated back down?  Seems the instability from a conference perspective would be an issue.  

[Too Big Pig]

fascinating.  Thanks for the explanation.

So after this upcoming season they could be relegated back down?  Seems the instability from a conference perspective would be an issue. 

After the next two year cycle. New conferences start next year.

The interesting part has been what it's done to basketball. Boys and girls teams have ended up in different classifications.

[PHARMHOG]

I am not a PA guy but I am friends with the QBs family.

They were beat down physically as the season progressed. Losing people left and right. By the time they made the semis this year they were thin.

PA is a pretty good team healthy and one-deep. After that age and size/physicality become an issue.

They will be no match for the 7A due to size, depth, and physicality.

QB1 is going to have a tough go at it next year. Hate it for him.

[DirkPiggler]

I am not a PA guy but I am friends with the QBs family.

They were beat down physically as the season progressed. Losing people left and right. By the time they made the semis this year they were thin.

PA is a pretty good team healthy and one-deep. After that age and size/physicality become an issue.

They will be no match for the 7A due to size, depth, and physicality.

QB1 is going to have a tough go at it next year. Hate it for him.

A great example of this is how the annual scrimmage vs. Bryant usually goes.  PA hangs with them in the first half while both teams are playing the starters.  After halftime when the depth kicks in Bryant usually pulls away.  They're going to face situations like that in probably half or more of their games over the next two years. 

[BleedinRed]

Sounds like their NIL program needs to be tweaked.  

[Spiderham]

Sounds like their NIL program needs to be tweaked. 

The "threat" is that PA just says fuck it and goes full IMG Academy playing a national schedule and recruiting from everywhere. 
Not sure that is going to happen but it damn sure has been discussed. 

[DRYANKNPULL]

The "threat" is that PA just says fuck it and goes full IMG Academy playing a national schedule and recruiting from everywhere.
Not sure that is going to happen but it damn sure has been discussed.

When you say threat do you mean PA is going to threaten to do this and the aaa is going to appease them in some fashion?  I'm not certain there would be a long line of people begging them not to.

[AporkalypseNow]

What level is PA playing in basketball, baseball, etc?  If they are really doing this in each and every sport that's bizarre.

Are they 5A in some and 7A in others?

[Too Big Pig]

When you say threat do you mean PA is going to threaten to do this and the aaa is going to appease them in some fashion?  I'm not certain there would be a long line of people begging them not to.

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[Spiderham]

When you say threat do you mean PA is going to threaten to do this and the aaa is going to appease them in some fashion?  I'm not certain there would be a long line of people begging them not to.

No, PA has discussed leaving the AAA and just being an independent high school that plays a regional/national schedule similar to IMG and a few others around the country.  If they did that, they would recruit the best Arkansas high school players without restriction.  (I know some would say they already do that <insert eye roll here>). 
The impact on the other sports would be ugly.  Football, probably not so much as they already play a bunch of those type schools every year in their non-conference.  They would just play an entire schedule of those schools from all over.

[RPL]

No, PA has discussed leaving the AAA and just being an independent high school that plays a regional/national schedule similar to IMG and a few others around the country.  If they did that, they would recruit the best Arkansas high school players without restriction.  (I know some would say they already do that <insert eye roll here>).
The impact on the other sports would be ugly.  Football, probably not so much as they already play a bunch of those type schools every year in their non-conference.  They would just play an entire schedule of those schools from all over.

If PA did this, I would imagine there would be an unspoken agreement by the Arkansas schools not to play PA.

[Usafhawg]

Daryl Patton is leaving Southwest and going to White Hall.

[DRYANKNPULL]

No, PA has discussed leaving the AAA and just being an independent high school that plays a regional/national schedule similar to IMG and a few others around the country.  If they did that, they would recruit the best Arkansas high school players without restriction.  (I know some would say they already do that <insert eye roll here>).
The impact on the other sports would be ugly.  Football, probably not so much as they already play a bunch of those type schools every year in their non-conference.  They would just play an entire schedule of those schools from all over.

I would really like to see PA do this.

[Keyser Soooie]

PA might as well leave the AAA, they won't win another state title as long as they're in 6A or 7A.

And as mentioned before, I don't think anyone will begging them to stick around.

[DirkPiggler]

PA might as well leave the AAA, they won't win another state title as long as they're in 6A or 7A.

And as mentioned before, I don't think anyone will begging them to stick around.

They won 6A in 2022.  But I agree they won't be able to win one in 7A. 

If they're going to go independent they need to go all in...basketball, baseball, volleyball, etc. That means recruiting heavily for all those sports. 

For the record I don't see them leaving regardless of how badly the AAA screws them over.  That would cost the school and the parents a lot more money than many if not most would be willing to spend.

[hit_that_line]

Sounds like some swinger parties disguised as fundraisers are in order.

[AporkalypseNow]

They won 6A in 2022.  But I agree they won't be able to win one in 7A. 

If they're going to go independent they need to go all in...basketball, baseball, volleyball, etc. That means recruiting heavily for all those sports. 

For the record I don't see them leaving regardless of how badly the AAA screws them over.  That would cost the school and the parents a lot more money than many if not most would be willing to spend.

You mean have the kids travel out of state for every volleyball game, golf tournament, soccer game, etc?

Leaving the state for every midweek girl's basketball game?

That would deter me from sending my kids there.

[DrMongoose]

PA will still make the playoffs and could be a dangerous lower seed.

7A Central - Conway, Bryant, LRC and PA will be the top 4 with Cabot right there on the edge. talk about loaded.



honestly, I think PA will be  ok but Shiloh is going to be really be in over their head in 6A which is probably better and deeper as a classification than 7A.

Shiloh will have Greenwood, Southside (FS), Lake Hamilton, Mountain Home - yikes! What's happened to Russellville?

[DRYANKNPULL]

You mean have the kids travel out of state for every volleyball game, golf tournament, soccer game, etc?

Leaving the state for every midweek girl's basketball game?

That would deter me from sending my kids there.

Exactly. And now you have to subsidize tuition for 30-50 athletes in all sports. And for what? So you can go to PVCC and brag about your kid being 3rd string qb while you are paying for some kid from Crossett to be the starter? A lot of moving parts there to be able to beat Dallas Episcopal.