YOUR Arkansas Razorbacks 2023 season prediction thread!

Started by bigpig, Aug 24, 2023, 12:24 PM

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animal

Byu is capable of being 3-5 in the sec so losing to them is about like losing to Miss State or Missouri but you deal with it, tell yourself the aforementioned stuff...then on to our rape date.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Thin Red Swine


Quote from: Feral on Sep 19, 2023, 08:30 AMIt's all predicated on this 4 game stretch. Go 0-fer and this team likely falls apart and finishes 4-8. Win 1 we otherwise shouldn't and a bowl is still in play. Still a disappointment but not a total disaster.

This stretch alone is enough to make it unfavorable. We could go 0-fer and/or be physically and mentally beat up and have no gas left in the tank for the "easy" part.

The latter part includes games at a place we've never won against a team we've beaten once in 10 tries, one team that has beaten us 7 of the last 10 (usually by being more physical) and another team we routinely step on our dicks against and that has beaten us 7 of the last 9.

I said 7-5 was the ceiling, and that assumed beating BYU. Now I think 6-6 would be a minor miracle.

mde114

Quote from: animal on Sep 19, 2023, 09:12 AMByu is capable of being 3-5 in the sec so losing to them is about like losing to Miss State or Missouri but you deal with it, tell yourself the aforementioned stuff...then on to our rape date.

Are they?

Does that mean Kansas would win it? Kansas is a 9.5 point favorite over BYU this weekend. Beating us at home doesn't carry any respect.

BleedinRed

LSU = Not as good as anyone thought they would be to start the season.  They are been better at times over the last 5 years.

Texas A&M = no better than they have been every other year.  We always should beat them but end up losing

Ole Miss = They may be better but so far they look no different than any other year

Alabama = Clearly down and beatable.

Those are the the teams we play in this four game stretch.  That is not overly tough of a stretch for a good team to navigate.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 19, 2023, 11:09 AMnot overly tough of a stretch for a good team to navigate.


Where can we find one of those?

egregious

Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

animal

Quote from: mde114 on Sep 19, 2023, 11:07 AMAre they?

Does that mean Kansas would win it? Kansas is a 9.5 point favorite over BYU this weekend. Beating us at home doesn't carry any respect.
Hey hey lets not go stroking off Ku just yet. Well traveling for road games in consecutive weeks is hard on any Mormon.


"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

egregious

Quote from: animal on Sep 19, 2023, 01:00 PMHey hey lets not go stroking off Ku just yet. Well traveling for road games in consecutive weeks is hard on any Mormon.

Don't worry, I jinxed them right above you.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 19, 2023, 11:09 AMLSU = Not as good as anyone thought they would be to start the season.  They are been better at times over the last 5 years.

Texas A&M = no better than they have been every other year.  We always should beat them but end up losing

Ole Miss = They may be better but so far they look no different than any other year

Alabama = Clearly down and beatable.

Those are the the teams we play in this four game stretch.  That is not overly tough of a stretch for a good team to navigate.


Before the season, none of that was expected other than aTm. And now that we see what we have, there's no reason to think those teams won't still have enough to beat us at their home fields (and JerryWorld) even if they're no different or down. We needed to step up but instead stepped down.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Sep 19, 2023, 08:59 PMBefore the season, none of that was expected other than aTm. And now that we see what we have, there's no reason to think those teams won't still have enough to beat us at their home fields (and JerryWorld) even if they're no different or down. We needed to step up but instead stepped down.

I expected it.  But then, I expected Arkansas to be good too.  So, wtf do I know.  We will always be slightly worse than most of the teams we play.   That is what I've come to realize over the last 5 days.  

bigpig

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 20, 2023, 05:45 AMI expected it.  But then, I expected Arkansas to be good too.  So, wtf do I know.  We will always be slightly worse than most of the teams we play.   That is what I've come to realize over the last 5 days. 

Except we weren't slightly worse than BYU. We doubled them up on yards and only lost because of a few critical bone headed decisions, and one piss poor OL.

I'll accept that we're just a little outclassed when we go out there and play great football and lose by a field goal.
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BleedinRed

Quote from: bigpig on Sep 20, 2023, 07:37 AMExcept we weren't slightly worse than BYU. We doubled them up on yards and only lost because of a few critical bone headed decisions, and one piss poor OL.

I'll accept that we're just a little outclassed when we go out there and play great football and lose by a field goal.

Well, BYU beat us.  So, we are slightly worse than BYU.

At some point, if you want to be considered good, you have to win.  And we don't win at any rate that would indicate that we are anything better than 12-14 in the league.

Frank got shit for what he said but he was spot on correct; we are 8th or 9th (with expansion it is now 10th or 11th) in potential.  40 years fucking proves that true. 

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 20, 2023, 08:07 AMWell, BYU beat us.  So, we are slightly worse than BYU.

At some point, if you want to be considered good, you have to win.  And we don't win at any rate that would indicate that we are anything better than 12-14 in the league.

Frank got shit for what he said but he was spot on correct; we are 8th or 9th (with expansion it is now 10th or 11th) in potential.  40 years fucking proves that true.

30 but who's counting.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 20, 2023, 09:59 AM30 but who's counting.

30 years vs 40 years of true suck.  I still don't think those additional 10 years really help a whole lot.  Losing to Texas and the bowl games.  Again, do just enough to feel like a power house without actually winning the one or two games a year that truly matter.

But I agree, lets lop those off and stick to the last 30 years.

19923-7-13-4-14th (West)Jack Crowe/Joe KinesStats
19916-65-3T-2ndJack CroweL, Independence BowlStats
19903-81-77thJack CroweStats
198910-27-11stKen HatfieldL, Cotton BowlStats
198810-27-01stKen HatfieldL, Cotton Bowl
19879-45-2T-2ndKen HatfieldL, Liberty Bowl
19869-36-2T-2ndKen HatfieldL, Orange Bowl
198510-26-2T-2ndKen HatfieldW, Holiday Bowl
19847-4-15-3T-3rdKen HatfieldL, Liberty Bowl
19836-54-45thLou Holtz


Remember when Citadel was the one that broke the camels back?  Now it is almost expected.

 

Show-Me Hog

I just meant that 30 years in the SEC proves what we are, SEC wise.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Sep 20, 2023, 11:33 AMI just meant that 30 years in the SEC proves what we are, SEC wise.
Ah.  Got it.

Lurk

I should have quit the hogs in 1969 when I was 8. The Big Shootout followed by the screwing we took in the Sugar Bowl.

Followed that up with the decline in Broyles later years.

1977 Damn, we were good. Should have been National Champions even with the 13-9 loss to Texas(as usual). Notre Dame bias screwed us. A few more good years and I think Lou got bored.

Kenny was a good coach, he just couldn't beat Texas in years that we should have and got exposed in bowl games.

I prefer to block out the Crowe/Ford years.

Damn, I hate Nutt.

We're back and should be good for a while... shit.

Back to blocking it out.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Lurk on Sep 20, 2023, 12:04 PMI should have quit the hogs in 1969 when I was 8. The Big Shootout followed by the screwing we took in the Sugar Bowl.

Followed that up with the decline in Broyles later years.

1977 Damn, we were good. Should have been National Champions even with the 13-9 loss to Texas(as usual). Notre Dame bias screwed us. A few more good years and I think Lou got bored.

Kenny was a good coach, he just couldn't beat Texas in years that we should have and got exposed in bowl games.

I prefer to block out the Crowe/Ford years.

Damn, I hate Nutt.

We're back and should be good for a while... shit.

Back to blocking it out.

I think the '77 team was slightly but not a lot better than the '88 team (except maybe defensively). I know that was the UCLA debacle but it was such a letdown to be in that position after literally letting the Miami game slip through our fingers.

Other than '69, there are six seasons with at least a puncher's chance to be standing tall at the end, but we couldn't come through in the biggest moments.  1977, 1988, 1998, 2006, 2010 and 2011.

Piggielicious

Quote from: mde114 on Sep 19, 2023, 11:07 AMBeating us at home doesn't carry any respect.
Nor should it. We have been largely irrelevant to downright pathetic since the motorcycle wreck. Sam was hired because no one wanted this job after what Bert and Chad did to the program. Until they make better head coaching hires, the football program will continue to be bad.

red death

I saw where if Sam goes 4-8 this year his buyout drops 5 million.  Basically he gets less if his overall record is losing. 

He's 21-18 now.  Just something to think about with Yurachek if the wheels fall off.

I think he gets a final year at 4-8 but he probably needs to win at least 5.  3-9 or 2-10 he's gone. 

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