Razorback Women’s Basketball

Started by DrMongoose, Mar 17, 2024, 08:32 PM

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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Rick B. on Mar 12, 2025, 12:41 PMYes. Arkansas has around 100k per year for women's basketball. Missouri, fucking Missouri, has 600k. Tennessee and LSU are both over a million. For women's basketball. Let that sink in. Everybody wants to hate on Mike but he was put in a totally no win situation this season. And it started last season.

Why?

Other than the very top teams that people watch, how could paying a women's college basketball player possibly be justified from a revenue standpoint?

Rick B.

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Mar 12, 2025, 12:46 PMWhy?

Other than the very top teams that people watch, how could paying a women's college basketball player possibly be justified from a revenue standpoint?
They get money like the Hogs men's team got money from John Tyson. Many of these other teams have donors with huge pockets who love women's basketball. Arkansas does not.

BASS

Quote from: Rick B. on Mar 12, 2025, 12:48 PMThey get money like the Hogs men's team got money from John Tyson. Many of these other teams have donors with huge pockets who love women's basketball. Arkansas does not.

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Cornhogio

Quote from: Rick B. on Mar 12, 2025, 12:41 PMYes. Arkansas has around 100k per year for women's basketball. Missouri, fucking Missouri, has 600k. Tennessee and LSU are both over a million. For women's basketball. Let that sink in. Everybody wants to hate on Mike but he was put in a totally no win situation this season. And it started last season.

I agree on the NIL disadvantage, but Mike had some extraordinary talent early.  He went 0-2 in NCAA games during his tenure here in spite of the talent.  The chuck and duck style is fine when hitting shots, but I never saw a fall-back plan.  I wouldn't give him big NIL.
Never squat with your spurs on!

Rick B.

Quote from: Cornhogio on Mar 12, 2025, 01:03 PMI agree on the NIL disadvantage, but Mike had some extraordinary talent early.  He went 0-2 in NCAA games during his tenure here in spite of the talent.  The chuck and duck style is fine when hitting shots, but I never saw a fall-back plan.  I wouldn't give him big NIL.
Did you watch those two games? Those were both "Goddamn fucking Arkansas we always meet up against some fucking team that is lights out from the three-point line." Remember the men's team losing to Butler who was a 10 seed in 2018? Both of those games are the same dumb fuck situation. Just bad luck. Yes, everybody wishes he would have done better but you can't just look at a box score or look at season results and make a judgment without having been there and being invested in it. Not saying you particularly, but a lot of whiners on x don't even follow the program. They just see the records and the box scores and whine their heads off. Pisses me off. This season was an obvious shit show and inevitable. The two prior years, so much fucking drama on the team. And as best as he tried, the teams were divided. The whole Taliah Scott situation is something that could be talked about in a long drawn out thread. She was a cancer in the locker room. And yet also a McDonald's all american. So what do you do? Sit your best player and lose every game or play your best player who all the other players hate but win games?

Gambler

We seem to find that team in every sport.

Rick B.

Quote from: Gambler on Mar 12, 2025, 02:37 PMWe seem to find that team in every sport.
Every single time. Ole Miss in the 2022 CWS for example. TCU in the regional in Fayetteville. NC State. All baseball references. There are so many others.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Rick B. on Mar 12, 2025, 01:37 PMDid you watch those two games? Those were both "Goddamn fucking Arkansas we always meet up against some fucking team that is lights out from the three-point line." Remember the men's team losing to Butler who was a 10 seed in 2018? Both of those games are the same dumb fuck situation. Just bad luck. Yes, everybody wishes he would have done better but you can't just look at a box score or look at season results and make a judgment without having been there and being invested in it. Not saying you particularly, but a lot of whiners on x don't even follow the program. They just see the records and the box scores and whine their heads off. Pisses me off. This season was an obvious shit show and inevitable. The two prior years, so much fucking drama on the team. And as best as he tried, the teams were divided. The whole Taliah Scott situation is something that could be talked about in a long drawn out thread. She was a cancer in the locker room. And yet also a McDonald's all american. So what do you do? Sit your best player and lose every game or play your best player who all the other players hate but win games?

The question is, does that extra $500K someone gives to women's hoops take that same amount away from football, men's basketball, baseball, or softball?  If it does, we are better off staying in last place in women's basketball.  If not and someone wants to add to the current pile specifically for that sport, great let's do it.

That additional money is likely only going to take us from bottom tier to lower middle, where in men's basketball, baseball, or softball it could be the difference in a championship run.  You can make the same argument that the money would be similarly wasted going to football, but the difference is that you have probably 75K to 100K people who care about that sport versus maybe 10% of that if we're maxing out women's hoops. 

It truly does suck for Neighbors.  He's a better coach than he showed here for sure.  Hopefully his next situation will work out better for him. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Rick B. on Mar 12, 2025, 01:37 PMDid you watch those two games? Those were both "Goddamn fucking Arkansas we always meet up against some fucking team that is lights out from the three-point line." Remember the men's team losing to Butler who was a 10 seed in 2018? Both of those games are the same dumb fuck situation. Just bad luck. Yes, everybody wishes he would have done better but you can't just look at a box score or look at season results and make a judgment without having been there and being invested in it. Not saying you particularly, but a lot of whiners on x don't even follow the program. They just see the records and the box scores and whine their heads off. Pisses me off. This season was an obvious shit show and inevitable. The two prior years, so much fucking drama on the team. And as best as he tried, the teams were divided. The whole Taliah Scott situation is something that could be talked about in a long drawn out thread. She was a cancer in the locker room. And yet also a McDonald's all american. So what do you do? Sit your best player and lose every game or play your best player who all the other players hate but win games?

I watched them.

He never seemed at all willing to make adjustments.

The NIL issue just amplified it.

Cornhogio

It seems like if you're shaking the trees for a whale as a benefactor, you have to give them confidence that the coach can make it happen with the right players.  Mike doesn't foster that confidence.
Never squat with your spurs on!

jdcatty

Quote from: Rick B. on Mar 12, 2025, 12:41 PMYes. Arkansas has around 100k per year for women's basketball. Missouri, fucking Missouri, has 600k. Tennessee and LSU are both over a million. For women's basketball. Let that sink in. Everybody wants to hate on Mike but he was put in a totally no win situation this season. And it started last season.

Not sure about Mizzou, but LSU and Tennessee both draw good crowds to their games.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

BASS

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Mar 11, 2025, 02:20 PMTOWBBCIWLTFT?

https://gculopes.com/staff-directory/molly-miller/573

the media must love woopig.  i've seen several articles about neighbors stepping down and seen this lady's picture in more than half of them.
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vegashog

she's supposedly deciding between arkansas and arizona st.

probably going to need a pretty large nil commitment to get her.

buff2.0

Quote from: BASS on Mar 13, 2025, 01:45 PMthe media must love woopig.  i've seen several articles about neighbors stepping down and seen this lady's picture in more than half of them.


We say all the things they wish they had the balls to.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Hogfan58

Quote from: vegashog on Mar 13, 2025, 03:44 PMshe's supposedly deciding between arkansas and arizona st.

probably going to need a pretty large nil commitment to get her.

The UofA has been snakebite for many years, we're due some good news.
I need help and I know it.

buff2.0

"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."


animal

I am very stimulated by this hire.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Cornhogio

 Cornhogio to the NIL only fans page...
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BleedinRed

Pretty sure she should be coach for life.