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Lurk

Quote from: jdcatty on Aug 20, 2024, 10:41 AMhttps://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1825920156981182920



Well this is interesting.  The day is rapidly approaching when players will have emblems of some sort all over their jerseys for companies that support them...

like race car drivers... and I will fucking hate that
What good is that going to do? How are you going to scan it? They need an RF tag and an app that you can give in real time during a game and post the results on the scoreboard. After a big play, we could just drop a little cash in their accounts. That way you couldn't just quit like KJ and Rocket did last year. This could also be modified to use in our dystopian future to vote if the gladiator gets to live or not.

All of the above is sarcasm. I knew they would ruin it. I'm sure this season will end it for me. Its not worth it to have to suffer through an election year of crappy commercials and be mad about how much we suck.
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Too Big Pig

Quote from: Lurk on Aug 20, 2024, 11:34 AMWhat good is that going to do? How are you going to scan it? They need an RF tag and an app that you can give in real time during a game and post the results on the scoreboard. After a big play, we could just drop a little cash in their accounts. That way you couldn't just quit like KJ and Rocket did last year. This could also be modified to use in our dystopian future to vote if the gladiator gets to live or not.


Actually, I could be for this one. Make a hell of a run, I might tip you.
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jdcatty

Quote from: Too Big Pig on Aug 20, 2024, 05:29 PMActually, I could be for this one. Make a hell of a run, I might tip you.

I would sure wait till the end of the game.  That good run might be followed by 3 fumbles.
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HogOfWar



Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Aug 20, 2024, 06:03 PMAlabama now pays a General Manager $2.5 million, because it's professional football that needs professional roster management.

https://www.newser.com/article/afb16d6aaf08cb52d8088410b1e1f265/alabama-gave-a-big-contract-to-its-gm-why-college-football-teams-are-operating-more-like-pros.html?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_sports_login

Not surprised. I was thinking that we need a GM. I wonder what the point of an AD will be in a few years.
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vegashog

Quote from: HogOfWar on Aug 20, 2024, 07:49 PMNot surprised. I was thinking that we need a GM. I wonder what the point of an AD will be in a few years.
isn't someone who runs the athletic program (not just the football team) already like a gm?

HogOfWar

Quote from: vegashog on Aug 20, 2024, 07:57 PMisn't someone who runs the athletic program (not just the football team) already like a gm?

Sort of, but he has more than just football to contend with.

A GM for each of the three main sports sounds better than one person dividing his attention over multiple sports.
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Thin Red Swine

Quote from: piglosopher on Aug 20, 2024, 11:06 AMMight as watch NFL

What's the difference

A new goofy-dick kickoff rule?

DrMongoose

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Aug 20, 2024, 06:03 PMAlabama now pays a General Manager $2.5 million, because it's professional football that needs professional roster management.

https://www.newser.com/article/afb16d6aaf08cb52d8088410b1e1f265/alabama-gave-a-big-contract-to-its-gm-why-college-football-teams-are-operating-more-like-pros.html?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_sports_login

be intesting to see how many other schools can do afford to do that with the house settlement tab coming.


UA-Fayetteville expects to have to share roughly $21.5 million with student-athletes — mostly for football and men's basketball players — next year as part of the proposed settlement, a sum "we don't have sitting there for us."
Entering fiscal year 2024-25, the program has $173 million in expenses and the same in revenues, Yurachek said, so "I need to find levers to increase revenues and decrease expenses" in order to find that $21.5 million next year.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Spiderham

Quote from: DrMongoose on Aug 20, 2024, 10:18 PMbe intesting to see how many other schools can do afford to do that with the house settlement tab coming.


UA-Fayetteville expects to have to share roughly $21.5 million with student-athletes — mostly for football and men's basketball players — next year as part of the proposed settlement, a sum "we don't have sitting there for us."
Entering fiscal year 2024-25, the program has $173 million in expenses and the same in revenues, Yurachek said, so "I need to find levers to increase revenues and decrease expenses" in order to find that $21.5 million next year.

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BleedinRed

I hope the whole system goes bankrupt.  I would pay good money to see a Bear Bryant navigate these waters.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: DrMongoose on Aug 20, 2024, 10:18 PMbe intesting to see how many other schools can do afford to do that with the house settlement tab coming.


UA-Fayetteville expects to have to share roughly $21.5 million with student-athletes — mostly for football and men's basketball players — next year as part of the proposed settlement, a sum "we don't have sitting there for us."
Entering fiscal year 2024-25, the program has $173 million in expenses and the same in revenues, Yurachek said, so "I need to find levers to increase revenues and decrease expenses" in order to find that $21.5 million next year.


Someone is lying, unless we were somehow losing $20-30 million each of the last few years. 

The lever is the increased media payout that starts this year.  Use it, and stop blowing smoke up our asses. 

If the problem is wanting to retire the debt from Long's Folly sooner, abandon that stupid idea.  It makes no sense to retire low interest debt early when rates are high.  Or at least it doesn't when you have immediate needs like the revenue sharing and a pending buyout of your football coach that are far more vital to the long term financial viability of the program. 
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Son of Spam

I am still having a hard time understanding this shit. Why would anyone with any sense and any money, throw it away to an unknown (player) who has or hasn't played a down of college football and expect nothing in the way of ROI? Then, said player probably portals to the next highest bidder next year. What are these companies getting out of this?
Well, shit...

Ray Zorback

Quote from: Son of Spam on Aug 21, 2024, 08:17 AMI am still having a hard time understanding this shit. Why would anyone with any sense and any money, throw it away to an unknown (player) who has or hasn't played a down of college football and expect nothing in the way of ROI? Then, said player probably portals to the next highest bidder next year. What are these companies getting out of this?

I've been saying the same thing. Did those people that paid KJ get anything? Did their revenue increase because KJ did a commercial for them? How many years are they willing to throw money away?
irritatingly incompetent & infuriatingly unhelpful

PHARMHOG

Quote from: Son of Spam on Aug 21, 2024, 08:17 AMI am still having a hard time understanding this shit. Why would anyone with any sense and any money, throw it away to an unknown (player) who has or hasn't played a down of college football and expect nothing in the way of ROI? Then, said player probably portals to the next highest bidder next year. What are these companies getting out of this?

This is where I am at...and I hope the whole thing implodes.

DrMongoose

Try to read the elf's word salad on nil today, it underscores how certain newspapers and college athletics seem unwilling to adapt to the changing world because of a  "we have always done it this way" mentality of all the "visionaries and great leaders" they are said to have in charge.

Until NIL provides a return on investment, why bother? It has turned into athletic welfare.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

DirkPiggler

Quote from: DrMongoose on Aug 21, 2024, 09:05 AMTry to read the elf's word salad on nil today, it underscores how certain newspapers and college athletics seem unwilling to adapt to the changing world because of a  "we have always done it this way" mentality of all the "visionaries and great leaders" they are said to have in charge.

Until NIL provides a return on investment, why bother? It has turned into athletic welfare.

Just call it what it is...player salaries (albeit from different sources). 

We can choose to be the Marlins or Pirates and lose perennially with a low payroll, or come up with more funds and hopefully win.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

vegashog

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Aug 21, 2024, 08:11 AMSomeone is lying, unless we were somehow losing $20-30 million each of the last few years. 

The lever is the increased media payout that starts this year.  Use it, and stop blowing smoke up our asses. 

If the problem is wanting to retire the debt from Long's Folly sooner, abandon that stupid idea.  It makes no sense to retire low interest debt early when rates are high.  Or at least it doesn't when you have immediate needs like the revenue sharing and a pending buyout of your football coach that are far more vital to the long term financial viability of the program. 
this. some articles i read say the university HOPES to pay the debt at the end of the fiscal year, and others say the plan is to have it paid by 2030. someone needs to get their story straight.

as for nil, no one HAS to pay shit. but with the current state of the game, you get what you pay for. and how are you going to get any good players by waiting to see how they pan out before paying them? news flash, you're not. there's no guarantee in any investment.
Quote from: DirkPiggler on Aug 21, 2024, 09:20 AMWe can choose to be the Marlins or Pirates and lose perennially with a low payroll, or come up with more funds and hopefully win.
exactly.

Vito Porkleone

A couple of these posts are what I've been saying the whole time.  The folks who are spending that kind of money didn't get to where they are in life by being stupid.  To me, there is no real ROI in this.  Getting some semblance of value in return for a high level of support is a temporary elixir.  At some point, smart folks will ask themselves what they are really getting from this - and realize it's very little.  And the money will dry up at that point.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Ray Zorback on Aug 21, 2024, 08:57 AMI've been saying the same thing. Did those people that paid KJ get anything? Did their revenue increase because KJ did a commercial for them? How many years are they willing to throw money away?

Because it isn't anything other than simply buying recruits.  The recruit himself doesn't really matter much.  For some well heeled boosters it's simply a dick measuring contest.  For those who are actually expecting a business return, it's more about advertising to fans of a program that a business is committed to helping a program and the return from that rather than anything an individual player offers.

It was all entirely predictable and exactly why the NCAA was so hard on any booster interactions for so long.