NIL

Started by Usafhawg, Mar 27, 2024, 01:02 PM

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You would basically have to have the major pro leagues take over the management of college athletics and there they could come up with CBA's and the players unions in pro can probably assist in creating college players unions etc. It will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions but college athletics combined would be a beast of it's own if ran by professional sports folk. Nobody wants that model but it's coming one way or the next.

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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: vegashog on Aug 21, 2024, 04:01 PMmusic lessons, tutoring, social media, or any student that has a job while going to school. that should apply also, right?

Student-athuletes make shit tons of money because of their joint venture with the brands of the schools and conferences (such as SEC). Being an Arkansas Razorback football or basketball player has value add due to the school.

Please explain how your examples are analogous.

vegashog

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Aug 21, 2024, 05:12 PMStudent-athuletes make shit tons of money because of their joint venture with the brands of the schools and conferences (such as SEC). Being an Arkansas Razorback football or basketball player has value add due to the school.

Please explain how your examples are analogous.
my point was one of the reasons nil became a thing was that athletes were prohibited from making money. not just on their likeness but even being able to hold a job like every other student.

and are you suggesting athletes are making "shit tons of money" outside of nil? i'm a little confused.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: vegashog on Aug 21, 2024, 05:33 PMmy point was one of the reasons nil became a thing was that athletes were prohibited from making money. not just on their likeness but even being able to hold a job like every other student.

and are you suggesting athletes are making "shit tons of money" outside of nil? i'm a little confused.

No. Inside of NIL. But NIL is a sham. Players aren't actually getting paid for the value of their name, image, and likeness to something like a video game producer or a car dealership. They're getting paid so they will play for School X instead of School Y. It very quickly just turned into pay for play from the original good intentions of you can't make money off the kid's likeness without paying him.

Anyway, a football player makes whatever NIL money he makes IN PART because the Arkansas Razorback brand carries value. The same does not apply to all the jobs you listed. There would be no reason for a tutor to give money back to the school, like there is for an athlete.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Lurk on Aug 21, 2024, 04:14 PMSurely that's because of basketball.

It's right there in the first paragraph. 

CBS Sports college basketball insiders Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander spent a month surveying 100-plus Division I men's basketball coaches for our annual Candid Coaches series.

Lurk

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Aug 21, 2024, 09:21 PMIt's right there in the first paragraph. 

CBS Sports college basketball insiders Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander spent a month surveying 100-plus Division I men's basketball coaches for our annual Candid Coaches series.
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How can it be the best in basketball but so bad in football? Is Tyson just paying basketball players out of his own pocket?

I honestly try to ignore the NIL shit because when I start reading about it or thinking about it too much it makes me want to stop watching college sports altogether.

Heard a promotion for Boogie Fland's basketball camp on the radio the other day, you pay a flat fee to attend the camp, but if you want anything signed you have to pay $60 per item you want autographed. Sweet.

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Quote from: Trigger7672 on Aug 22, 2024, 06:31 AMHeard a promotion for Boogie Fland's basketball camp on the radio the other day, you pay a flat fee to attend the camp, but if you want anything signed you have to pay $60 per item you want autographed. Sweet.

Sounds like a comic book convention. Pay a fee to get in, but pay exorbitant prices for autographs.
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Quote from: Trigger7672 on Aug 22, 2024, 06:31 AMHow can it be the best in basketball but so bad in football? Is Tyson just paying basketball players out of his own pocket?

I honestly try to ignore the NIL shit because when I start reading about it or thinking about it too much it makes me want to stop watching college sports altogether.

Heard a promotion for Boogie Fland's basketball camp on the radio the other day, you pay a flat fee to attend the camp, but if you want anything signed you have to pay $60 per item you want autographed. Sweet.

You know the answer.  It's the coach.  People, not just Tyson, will shell out for Calipari because they know he will produce. 


SwahiliSteve

Quote from: Barton Fink on Aug 22, 2024, 12:51 PMWhy does this not surprise me?

https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1826636330270687642?t=4YLr1fvhusRtoY4Vp_NoOA&s=19
jesus that's a bit extreme. But doesn't surprise me at all. Wonder if he will have another mediocre season again
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vegashog

supposedly the assistant just flew over there and asked around all on his own. who's buying that.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Aug 22, 2024, 01:40 PMjesus that's a bit extreme. But doesn't surprise me at all. Wonder if he will have another mediocre season again

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Spiderham

Quote from: jdcatty on Aug 25, 2024, 09:27 AMhttps://x.com/blackgodwayne/status/1827423494860054569?


Sure, let's pay'em on a game-by-game basis...
Maybe Okie State has the beginning of a good idea.  Put the QR codes on the helmet.  Make a good play, get paid.  Make a bad play and lose money.  Just click the QR code on your screen.
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Hizog

Quote from: Spiderham on Aug 25, 2024, 10:59 AMMaybe Okie State has the beginning of a good idea.  Put the QR codes on the helmet.  Make a good play, get paid.  Make a bad play and lose money.  Just click the QR code on your screen.

Too bad Chad didn't have one of those.

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Quote from: Hizog on Aug 25, 2024, 11:34 AMToo bad Chad didn't have one of those.

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Quote from: BASS on Aug 22, 2024, 07:42 PMI'm not sure you'd find him there any other way
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