NIL

[DirkPiggler]

How exactly does a strong Arkansas football program benefit the University?  The significant number of kids are not picking Arkansas for the sports program.  And the place is already at near capacity when you look at resources. 

I can see how it contributes to the local economy in Fayetteville but not sure I see how it benefits the state wide economy in any significant way. 

Ask Alabama. Their applications and admissions supposedly went up pretty strongly during the Saban years.  Whether that's incidental to other factors or a primary driver, I don't know.

You and I have smart kids who chose their schools for prudent reasons.  It is my experience that ours are the exception rather than the rule.

The football program is the most publicized area of most state universities who have one.  Being good at it gets positive press.  Finger painting with your own feces the way we have since 4/1/12 does just the opposite.  It's not exactly free press, but close to it as they're going to cover us more and more positively when we're good than otherwise for roughly the same expenditure.

[Hognrock]

Ask Alabama. Their applications and admissions supposedly went up pretty strongly during the Saban years.  Whether that's incidental to other factors or a primary driver, I don't know.

You and I have smart kids who chose their schools for prudent reasons.  It is my experience that ours are the exception rather than the rule.

The football program is the most publicized area of most state universities who have one.  Being good at it gets positive press.  Finger painting with your own feces the way we have since 4/1/12 does just the opposite.  It's not exactly free press, but close to it as they're going to cover us more and more positively when we're good than otherwise for roughly the same expenditure.

I am strongly encouraging my oldest (High School Junior) to select an institution that best benefits his future goals.  That said, a strong athletic program be it football, basketball or baseball can certainly be attractive for the college "experience".  That likely won't be a factor for him but I can understand how it is for some prospective students in selecting their college.

[The Whyte Boar]

5 years ago I didn't know any kids at Ole Miss.  Today I know about a dozen. 

[AporkalypseNow]

Ask Alabama. Their applications and admissions supposedly went up pretty strongly during the Saban years.  Whether that's incidental to other factors or a primary driver, I don't know.

You and I have smart kids who chose their schools for prudent reasons.  It is my experience that ours are the exception rather than the rule.

The football program is the most publicized area of most state universities who have one.  Being good at it gets positive press.  Finger painting with your own feces the way we have since 4/1/12 does just the opposite.  It's not exactly free press, but close to it as they're going to cover us more and more positively when we're good than otherwise for roughly the same expenditure.

Tons of Texans went there during that period.  Part of is the SEC frat/sorority scene (like OM and UA) but definitely Bama was on the radar because of football and it's a bit less trendy now.

[jdcatty]

This is a very good idea. 

Never work politically.  Would take state legislature approval (as in passing one or more statutes) and every college from Hendrix & Lyon would want in.  The state reps from those areas would have to "insist" upon inclusion of their little college into a piece of the pie.

[Show-Me Hog]

Some clues of why Vitello jumped from Tennessee to the majors.  Other than getting to manage in the major leagues of course.

 

"It's a disaster," Vitello told Taylor Lewan and Will Compton regarding NIL and college sports. "We all have thoughts that you dream a little bigger. I kind of have this weird fantasy or vision of, okay, can college and MLB merge together a little bit and help each other? I certainly shouldn't be the patron of either. But I can connect the right people and get this thing where it's a little more fluid. But the one part MLB can't affect is where NCAA sports are in general."

Vitello concluded that NIL has contributed to what he remembers as a chaotic environment.

"It's just a mess. ... It's like you're driving in the fog and you can't really see but about 100 or 200 feet in front of you. You're grasping for what's real, what you can do, what you can't do. I'm sure someone will throw out that I did something wrong or I didn't do this. But overall, it's very frustrating when you don't know the rules to the game."

While walking through the disparity between college baseball programs, Tony Vitello also suggested that the NIL era is counterproductive to the push to have schools compete on an even playing field.

"That's the whole point of athletics or competition is, let's find out who can do it better. But when you really don't know what the rules of the game are or they're so lopsided in favor of Tennessee over Middle Tennessee State, it's kind of hard to have that nose-to-nose competition."

[DirkPiggler]

Some clues of why Vitello jumped from Tennessee to the majors.  Other than getting to manage in the major leagues of course.

 

"It's a disaster," Vitello told Taylor Lewan and Will Compton regarding NIL and college sports. "We all have thoughts that you dream a little bigger. I kind of have this weird fantasy or vision of, okay, can college and MLB merge together a little bit and help each other? I certainly shouldn't be the patron of either. But I can connect the right people and get this thing where it's a little more fluid. But the one part MLB can't affect is where NCAA sports are in general."

Vitello concluded that NIL has contributed to what he remembers as a chaotic environment.

"It's just a mess. ... It's like you're driving in the fog and you can't really see but about 100 or 200 feet in front of you. You're grasping for what's real, what you can do, what you can't do. I'm sure someone will throw out that I did something wrong or I didn't do this. But overall, it's very frustrating when you don't know the rules to the game."

While walking through the disparity between college baseball programs, Tony Vitello also suggested that the NIL era is counterproductive to the push to have schools compete on an even playing field.

"That's the whole point of athletics or competition is, let's find out who can do it better. But when you really don't know what the rules of the game are or they're so lopsided in favor of Tennessee over Middle Tennessee State, it's kind of hard to have that nose-to-nose competition."

Putting a bug in Hunter's ear for when DVH retires in case the whole MLB thing doesn't work out.

[HTL]

Putting a bug in Hunter's ear for when DVH retires in case the whole MLB thing doesn't work out.

He'll go to his alma mater and Mizzou will become yet another school that gets one before us.

[DirkPiggler]

He'll go to his alma mater and Mizzou will become yet another school that gets one before us.

Doubtful.  Can't see them ever giving enough of a shit about baseball to spend what that would cost. 

Plus I imagine he's a little pissed that they passed him over in 2017 for some dude named Steve Bieser. 

[HTL]

Doubtful.  Can't see them ever giving enough of a shit about baseball to spend what that would cost. 

Plus I imagine he's a little pissed that they passed him over in 2017 for some dude named Steve Bieser. 

You know how the movie plays out.

[Cornhogio]

Texas Tech has a $28m annual NIL spend and isn't in the top ten nationally?  Fuck...

[AporkalypseNow]

Texas Tech has a $28m annual NIL spend and isn't in the top ten nationally?  Fuck...

They spent $7 mil just on D-line...   saw an article about it.  It's dominant.

Maybe we ought to, IDK, look at what Tech is doing because in terms of NIL and roster building they're outdoing Aggies and UT.

[Barton Fink]

They spent $7 mil just on D-line...   saw an article about it.  It's dominant.

Maybe we ought to, IDK, look at what Tech is doing because in terms of NIL and roster building they're outdoing Aggies and UT.

Noble concept. Getting better players gets more wins.

[DrMongoose]

Maybe we ought to, IDK, look at what Tech is doing because in terms of NIL and roster building they're outdoing Aggies and UT.

True but hey, the 8th year AD told the BOT he's working on the plan!

[animal]

They spent $7 mil just on D-line...  saw an article about it.  It's dominant.

Maybe we ought to, IDK, look at what Tech is doing because in terms of NIL and roster building they're outdoing Aggies and UT.

I get the feeling people up there are still worried about what it would look like.


Also maybe just maybe people with money don't want to throw away money on a absolutely terrible investment 

[Barton Fink]

It's a terrible investment win or lose. A TT billionaire booster decided he wanted to chip in after watching us throttle them in the Liberty Bowl last year.

I do think this will kill off in time but who knows how long. These guys putting up millions have expectations. They have the leverage. When things go south and they don't get their way (and it will happen everywhere at some point), they will take their ball and go home.

[egregious]

Also maybe just maybe people with money don't want to throw away money on a absolutely terrible investment

This shit makes racehorses look good.

[DirkPiggler]

This shit makes racehorses look good.

How long before NIL includes breeding rights for the athletes?

Kidding...I think.

At least in horse racing there is the outside chance that you get a Derby winner and get to draw 7-8 figure stud fees off of him for 20 years. 

[Barton Fink]

I just don't see how it is sustainable. It's new. It's cool if you like to swing your dick around, but at some point you'd think common sense comes into play.

I'm probably the biggest NIL advocator (for us) on this board just because it's the first time we have a solution to overcome disadvantages we inherently have. But, it's ludicrous to ask your fans to buy your players. That's essentially what is taking place.

[Ray Zorback]

I just don't see how it is sustainable.

I agree. The super rich boosters will eventually get tired of throwing so much money away with no return.