2024-2025 Razorback Basketball

Started by Doc Hogaday, Apr 11, 2024, 04:40 PM

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Doc Hogaday

Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2025, 01:34 PMWhat I hate about today's game is the lack of good passers. If I asked who is the best passer in the NBA is, most everyone would say Jokic. If I asked who is the best passing PG in today's game, you probably don't know.

I miss guys like Nash, Kidd, JWill, Strickland, Magic, etc. To me, a great pass is the most exciting play in basketball. It's a lost art now.

Curry, Fox, and Haliburton are good passing PGs in today's game but a lot of that gets overlooked as they also have to be the primary scorer on their respective teams.

Another three I've never cared for because of how they approached playing PG, but admittedly have done well, are Kyrie, Westbrook, and Harden.

An in-betweener in this group is CP3.

As far as a true passing PG in this century who never got the credit he deserved, I give you Rondo.
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BleedinRed

Quote from: Lurk on Jan 30, 2025, 03:44 PMRaising the basket to 11 feet and moving the 3 point line out is the only thing that will help. Size and physical ability has made the game boring.

Disagree on moving the line out.  That will do irreparable harm to the game.  Guys are already capable of shooting from almost half court.  They don't because there is no incentive to do it.  

They need to figure out how to get the 15-20 foot offense back into the game.  

DrMongoose

imagine running Nolan's 40 minutes of hell with Robertson and Walker as your guards. holy mother of turnover pressure!!!
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Doc Hogaday

Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2025, 02:29 PMSame for the Jazz.  Stockton was a pretty damn good point guard who could pass and shoot.

I was never a Jazz fan but Stockton may be the most underrated player ever. All-time assists AND steals leader and neither are close to ever being touched. But you never see him when people are constructing 3-deep rosters of all-time teams.
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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Jan 30, 2025, 04:01 PMDisagree on moving the line out.  That will do irreparable harm to the game.  Guys are already capable of shooting from almost half court.  They don't because there is no incentive to do it. 

They need to figure out how to get the 15-20 foot offense back into the game. 

Move the line out to at least 30 feet and only from the free thrown line extended.  So the only three point shots are from way out and in the front.  From the free thrown line extended to the basket there is no three point line. 
 
Or just eliminate it altogether.  I'm fine with that too although they'll never do it.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 30, 2025, 01:34 PMI agree it's overkill. Who gives a shit how accurate you make a shot. Only thing that matters is if you made it. Arch is the only that does matter but not as much as you would think.

What I hate about today's game is the lack of good passers. If I asked who is the best passer in the NBA is, most everyone would say Jokic. If I asked who is the best passing PG in today's game, you probably don't know.

I miss guys like Nash, Kidd, JWill, Strickland, Magic, etc. To me, a great pass is the most exciting play in basketball. It's a lost art now.

100% agree on the passing. It's an unfortunate result of the focus on perimeter shooting. Hardly anyone runs sets anymore that emphasize a guy cutting to the basket WITHOUT the ball.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: DrMongoose on Jan 30, 2025, 04:44 PMimagine running Nolan's 40 minutes of hell with Robertson and Walker as your guards. holy mother of turnover pressure!!!

He had McDaniel, who was at least as good as Walker on defense.

Robertson was a once-in-a-generation lethal assassin though.

HughJasole

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Jan 30, 2025, 07:45 PMHe had McDaniel, who was at least as good as Walker on defense.

Robertson was a once-in-a-generation lethal assassin though.

On and off the court.

Lurk

"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

Barton Fink


animal

Quote from: Barton Fink on Jan 31, 2025, 01:02 PMLock down defender.
Good at the ole Smash and Grab as well I think
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Natty_Ice

Things of that nature

DrMongoose

Quote from: Natty_Ice on Jan 31, 2025, 07:03 PM

good lord, finebaum picks him to be on for a battle of high hairlined gas bags ??
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Barton Fink

Sad thing is there are worse choices.

HughJasole

Quote from: DrMongoose on Feb 01, 2025, 09:37 PMgood lord, finebaum picks him to be on for a battle of high hairlined gas bags ??

Apparently he and his Inside Arkansas cronies have major beef with Chuck and Bo currently.

flash23

Did Chuckles label them terrorists?

Sus-Scrofa

We beat Texas and lost to bama by a few.  

Frick LSU.

Now we're all caught up.

BASS

Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 10, 2025, 09:59 PMWe beat Texas and lost to bama by a few. 

Frick LSU.

Now we're all caught up.

You can't get analysis like this just anywhere folks
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

Hognrock

Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Feb 10, 2025, 09:59 PMWe beat Texas and lost to bama by a few. 

Frick LSU.


Dynamite drop-in, Monty!   ;D

RIP Ueck.

Son of Spam

OK Doc. You're up. While the board was down, we had no game thread and we lost. You were 2-0 before the breakdown. Start us up again.
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