The NEXT Coach

Started by PHARMHOG, Sep 28, 2025, 01:21 PM

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animal

If we don't get a chicken man level of financial commitment you can just about count on whoever takes it over is taking it over to take the free money needed for retirement in 5 years or less. 

We lack vision from the top down and worse yet they know it and are doing nothing about it because they literally aren't going to fire themselves now would "they"? Rather than that they'll hire somebody knowing there's good odds the marriage won't work and he'll be gone by the end of the first contract well actually they'll give him a 2nd contract when he's managed to take us to a Liberty bowl birth. 

I'm fine with Wommack or Golesh. I'd rather have someone that is going to bring credible energy and vision because he damn sure isn't going to get it from anywhere else on the hill. Colin Klein is somebody we probably should have been kicking the tires on but we're going to let him go elsewhere and miss out on who could be the next IT guy in coaching (supposedly he's going to start getting smaller Hc offers if not K-state sooner rather than later)
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Barton Fink

Agree completely. There is no commitment from the top. I don't think just hiring one of those guys is going to move the needle. Gonna take a lot more than that. I hope I'm wrong.

HogOfWar

Has there been any unity on football even before joining the SEC? I didn't really watch Arkansas before 1993, but it seems that we have been wandering the desert longer than Moses. Couldn't be united to hire Tubberville in 97 and even after firing Bert, looked like no one cares.

I don't really care who we hire, since next year will have a worse turnover than a fast food restaurant and without good NIL or stopping the revolving door that is the portal, it is just rinse and repeat.

I am not renewing tickets after 22 years. Maybe I will start deer hunting and other projects.
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BleedinRed

Doesn't matter who they hire.  I'm done blindly giving support.  Whoever it is needs to earn it before I become emotionally involved again.  

Son of Spam

I figure we will be coach searching every 4-5 years. If we can't get the players (and what player wants to come to a losing program)it won't matter. It is amazing how good other teams look (no matter the conference) compared to us. We have boys playing against men. We are so overmatched. We may have 1 or 2 players that could sniff another team. And we will probably still have most of these players next year, because no other team is going to want them.
Well, shit...

Spiderham

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AporkalypseNow

Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 29, 2025, 06:21 PMHas there been any unity on football even before joining the SEC? I didn't really watch Arkansas before 1993, but it seems that we have been wandering the desert longer than Moses. Couldn't be united to hire Tubberville in 97 and even after firing Bert, looked like no one cares.

I don't really care who we hire, since next year will have a worse turnover than a fast food restaurant and without good NIL or stopping the revolving door that is the portal, it is just rinse and repeat.

I am not renewing tickets after 22 years. Maybe I will start deer hunting and other projects.

Arkansas football had an off year before joining the SEC but was coming off back to back SWC titles and 3 straight decades of being top 3 in the nation in win percentage.  Our coaches were Broyles, Holtz and then Hatfield in that era and Crowe was a quick hire...

That last year we were ranked top 12 or so and got upset in ugly fashion by TCU (who sucked back then) and it was going to be awful...  we also won the SWC in nearly every bother sport

3+ decadwes in the SEC really haven't been kind to us.  Our best run was the 4 years under Petrino.  We were middle of the road under Nutt and Bielema.  The Morris/Pittman era has just been... awful.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2025, 06:29 PMArkansas football had an off year before joining the SEC but was coming off back to back SWC titles and 3 straight decades of being top 3 in the nation in win percentage.  Our coaches were Broyles, Holtz and then Hatfield in that era and Crowe was a quick hire...

That last year we were ranked top 12 or so and got upset in ugly fashion by TCU (who sucked back then) and it was going to be awful...  we also won the SWC in nearly every bother sport

3+ decadwes in the SEC really haven't been kind to us.  Our best run was the 4 years under Petrino.  We were middle of the road under Nutt and Bielema.  The Morris/Pittman era has just been... awful.

Firing Petrino over some relatively minor HR offenses was suicide for our program. 


Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Sus-Scrofa

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 06:38 PMFiring Petrino over some relatively minor HR offenses was suicide for our program. 




A serious football program/university would have had a plan in place to "handle" an accident/coach affair with a staffer.

Minor league leadership then and now.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Sus-Scrofa on Nov 29, 2025, 06:43 PMA serious football program/university would have had a plan in place to "handle" an accident/coach affair with a staffer.

Minor league leadership then and now.

True. 


I would love to see someone in the "we had to fire him" camp to outline the nuclear winter scenario from keeping Bobby after the wreck, the lies and everything else.  What was the worst case for the program and the university if we had decided on internal discipline?  I'm going to guess it wouldn't involve four seasons of 0-8 in the SEC out of the next 14 years.


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The Whyte Boar

Had to fire him.  He had called Jeff Long's best friend a mktherfucker.

Loma

Quote from: Son of Spam on Nov 29, 2025, 06:24 PMWe may have 1 or 2 players that could sniff another team.

Our kicker. That is it.

vegashog

the tight ends will play for some p4 team(s) next season.

The Cowboy Tiger

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 29, 2025, 06:29 PM3+ decadwes in the SEC really haven't been kind to us.  Our best run was the 4 years under Petrino.  We were middle of the road under Nutt and Bielema.  The Morris/Pittman era has just been... awful.

I hated Nutt and wished for his death to free us of his shackles, but comparing him to BB is way out of line.  Fatboy the First was sub .500 overall here and 11-29 in conference.  He was a truly bad coach that was off the side of the road.  I saw here and other places descriptors of him as being 'mediocre.'  He wasn't close to that.  Bielema was one of the worst we'd ever had until Morris and Fatboy the Second.  We were a lazy bunch of pussies who blew leads constantly and he got fatter every year.

Nutt averaged 7.5 wins v. just under 5 losses, two losing seasons, and one that was .500.  His overall record in the SEC was, shockingly, four games above .500.  We might have called that mediocre at the time and felt like he underachieved, but we weren't a fucking laughingstock.
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Barton Fink

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: Loma on Nov 29, 2025, 06:59 PMOur kicker. That is it.

Fuck him too.  He always misses when it's a clutch kick. 

Golesh can bring one of the Gramatica kids/grandkids with him from USF. 
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: The Cowboy Tiger on Nov 29, 2025, 07:06 PMI hated Nutt and wished for his death to free us of his shackles, but comparing him to BB is way out of line.  Fatboy the First was sub .500 overall here and 11-29 in conference.  He was a truly bad coach.  One of the worst we'd ever had until Morris and Fatboy the Second.

Nutt averaged 7.5 wins v. just under 5 losses, two losing seasons, and one that was .500.  His overall record in the SEC was, shockingly, four games above .500.  We might have called that mediocre at the time and felt like he underachieved, but we weren't a fucking laughingstock.

Adjust for difficulty of schedule and that comparison falls apart.  Bert came in at the time when the SEC West was at its peak.  Nutt caught it when Alabama was ass, Ole Miss and Miss State were what Mississippi schools are supposed to be, and aTm wasn't in the league. 
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SwahiliSteve

Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

Barton Fink

If Golesh chooses AU, I'd rather hire Durkin over Wommack. (ducks)

The Cowboy Tiger

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 29, 2025, 07:08 PMAdjust for difficulty of schedule and that comparison falls apart.  Bert came in at the time when the SEC West was at its peak.  Nutt caught it when Alabama was ass, Ole Miss and Miss State were what Mississippi schools are supposed to be, and aTm wasn't in the league. 

You can play that harp all day long, but there is no serenading anyone about an 18 game differential in five seasons.  The SEC was still the best conference in the country.  Auburn and LSU were ass kickers and so were Florida and Georgia.  Tennessee was great at the beginning of his tenure.  The 'any given Saturday' thing was alive and well back then.

There is no comparison between Nutt and Bielema.
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