The NEXT Coach

[egregious]

I'd rather not have a coach named DJ Durkin. How's that? 

I wish his nickname was DJ "Pickles" Durkin.

(I know the pickle is a gherkin.)

[Barton Fink]

Gherkin for Durkin does have a catchy ring to it.

[buff2.0]

4th & 5 did a breakdown of Golesh's offense.  Some stuff in there makes me pretty nervous if he's the hire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVCY9FyoJg

-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so.  That's really not good for our D.  We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well.
-Requires a smart dual threat QB.
-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play
-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play
-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.

The description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach

[DirkPiggler]

The description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach

He ran the same type offense at Tennessee under Heupel and called the plays.  Worked pretty well for them. 

[Barton Fink]

The description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach

[The Cowboy Tiger]

The description reminds me a lot of the Chad approach

You can have the "chad approach" to how you want your offense to go.  There's lots of ways to win, but teaching  your players to be pussies won't work.  Morris and Bielema and Pittman all taught the players to be quitters.  It looks like Golesh doesn't have that problem given his record compared to Morris, who was a loser before he got here.

Draw up the annexation of Puerto Rico all you want, but if you have some lazy ass Cuban speaking Spanish with a speech impediment in on it then you're fucked.

[buff2.0]

I just want to remind everyone that Heupel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000, was a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, an All-American, AP Player of the Year, and a Walter Camp Award winner... en route to winning the National Championship as OU's QB.  He coached a Heisman-winning Sam Bradford at OU.  His UCF offense put up big numbers, and he has still had good offenses at Tennessee AFTER Golesh left.  For shit's sakes, they made the CFP last year.

So y'all pardon me for not giving Golesh too much credit for the offense of a guy who has always known how to run an offense. 

[The Cowboy Tiger]

I just want to remind everyone that Heupel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000, was a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, an All-American, AP Player of the Year, and a Walter Camp Award winner... en route to winning the National Championship as OU's QB.  He coached a Heisman-winning Sam Bradford at OU.  His UCF offense put up big numbers, and he has still had good offenses at Tennessee AFTER Golesh left.  For shit's sakes, they made the CFP last year.

So y'all pardon me for not giving Golesh too much credit for the offense of a guy who has always known how to run an offense. 

Sure, but that also means that Golesh has a good pedigree from who he coached under.

The comparisons to Morris are wild.  Look at that aggie-fuck's record.  I'm still not convinced he wasn't a double agent.  He should be in jail for fraud.  Exhibit number one of how things can always get worse.  Made Bielema look like Bill Cowher.

[buff2.0]

By that logic Mississippi State must have an amazing offense, if pedigree is what makes coaching.

The nobvillification of Woopig continues.

[DirkPiggler]

I just want to remind everyone that Heupel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000, was a Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year, an All-American, AP Player of the Year, and a Walter Camp Award winner... en route to winning the National Championship as OU's QB.  He coached a Heisman-winning Sam Bradford at OU.  His UCF offense put up big numbers, and he has still had good offenses at Tennessee AFTER Golesh left.  For shit's sakes, they made the CFP last year.

So y'all pardon me for not giving Golesh too much credit for the offense of a guy who has always known how to run an offense. 

Fair points.  The overwhelming majority of Tennessee fans give Golesh a lot more credit for their success than you do though. 

You seem to be holding every candidate up to BMFP for comparison.  That's fine, I like it, but the fact is that for whatever reason Bobby isn't under consideration.  No point in shitting on the next guy until he fucks things up here on his own merits. Might as well retain a little optimism until it's snatched out from under us. 

[Pumpkin Escobar]

One thing I heard about Golesh that I like, is that he greatly believes in accountability and ain't afraid to get in that ass, if a player is fucking around. There's been to much sunshine and koolaid round here.

[The Cowboy Tiger]

By that logic Mississippi State must have an amazing offense, if pedigree is what makes coaching.

The nobvillification of Woopig continues.

It's playing devil's advocate to what you're saying. Paraphrasing:  maybe he's not that great b/c Heupels' offenses are always good.  Sure. I'm not endorsing it.

Talk about nobvillification.  Someone says anything you might interpret as not completely agreeing with you and you get passive aggressive like a woman.

For a concrete example, take this:

The USF Bulls' offense is ranked in the top five nationally, with multiple sources placing it around No. 5 for scoring offense and top three for total offense. Specific rankings vary slightly by source, but general consensus shows them as a high-performing unit. 
Scoring Offense: Ranked No. 5 in the FBS, averaging 42.2 points per game.
Total Offense: Ranked No. 3 nationally with 497 yards per game. Another source lists them at No. 7 with 485.2 total yards per game.

[AporkalypseNow]

I hated Nutt and wished for his death to free us of his shackles, but comparing him to BB is way out of line.  Fatboy the First was sub .500 overall here and 11-29 in conference.  He was a truly bad coach that was off the side of the road.  I saw here and other places descriptors of him as being 'mediocre.'  He wasn't close to that.  Bielema was one of the worst we'd ever had until Morris and Fatboy the Second.  We were a lazy bunch of pussies who blew leads constantly and he got fatter every year.

Nutt averaged 7.5 wins v. just under 5 losses, two losing seasons, and one that was .500.  His overall record in the SEC was, shockingly, four games above .500.  We might have called that mediocre at the time and felt like he underachieved, but we weren't a fucking laughingstock.

Fair, we had some ups under Bielema but not as many as under Nutt.

I disliked Nutt much more for who he was than Bielema, who was just too drunk and distracted to do his job.

Nutt was dumb, narcissistic and would throw anyone and everyone under the bus.

I do think Nutt benefited from the state of Arkansas producing a lot more football talent than it did for Bielema and it does now.

[AporkalypseNow]

Watching USF woodshed a 5-6 Rice team that needed this game for a bowl...

USF 45-3 in the 4th.  Power running game.  Look fantastic.

[DrMongoose]

https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1994956432610079199?s=61&t=yqgft3mqzhJjVNQN1flX9A

[The Cowboy Tiger]

Fair, we had some ups under Bielema but not as many as under Nutt.

I disliked Nutt much more for who he was than Bielema, who was just too drunk and distracted to do his job.

Nutt was dumb, narcissistic and would throw anyone and everyone under the bus.

I do think Nutt benefited from the state of Arkansas producing a lot more football talent than it did for Bielema and it does now.

We're on the same page 100 percent.  Nutt missed out on a lot of instate talent too, same as Bielema.  I've never argued that getting rid of him was the wrong call.  We got BMFP. 

In retrospect, canning Petrino was as disastrous for the state of our program as the whole losing Hatfield, hiring Crowe, and firing Crowe simulcast with joining the SEC.  It might be worse.

The last two years of Nutt through Petrino's four years are when it really looked like we had finally recovered the state of the program.

All gone now and has been for basically a generation. 

[passed]

You can have the "chad approach" to how you want your offense to go.  There's lots of ways to win, but teaching  your players to be pussies won't work.  Morris and Bielema and Pittman all taught the players to be quitters.  It looks like Golesh doesn't have that problem given his record compared to Morris, who was a loser before he got here.

Draw up the annexation of Puerto Rico all you want, but if you have some lazy ass Cuban speaking Spanish with a speech impediment in on it then you're fucked.

From what I've seen as far as tape goes, including the 4th and 5 one I linked, Golesh's offense doesn't really look like Heupel's or really TN while Golesh was there.  Yes, some elements and similarities... but Golesh's offense is a much faster tempo with more RPO from what I've seen.

My fear with that approach is how bad that goes when playing behind the chains, the strain on the defense, and the fact that at this level you need elite athletes to even consider being successful... we seem to struggle with all of those things.

Also, as noted in my previous post on him, his defense was a whopping 32yrds better than ours. 

[Barton Fink]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

https://x.com/ScottBalesX/status/1994958550221951321?t=wB723sWJ9ZtH0RNUQMF6og&s=19

[buff2.0]

It's playing devil's advocate to what you're saying. Paraphrasing:  maybe he's not that great b/c Heupels' offenses are always good.  Sure. I'm not endorsing it.

Talk about nobvillification.  Someone says anything you might interpret as not completely agreeing with you and you get passive aggressive like a woman.

For a concrete example, take this:

The USF Bulls' offense is ranked in the top five nationally, with multiple sources placing it around No. 5 for scoring offense and top three for total offense. Specific rankings vary slightly by source, but general consensus shows them as a high-performing unit. 
Scoring Offense: Ranked No. 5 in the FBS, averaging 42.2 points per game.
Total Offense: Ranked No. 3 nationally with 497 yards per game. Another source lists them at No. 7 with 485.2 total yards per game.

Let's see... Some characteristics directly from the post I quoted.

-Hurry up no huddle, USF leads the nation in offensive plays per game snapping the ball every 7-11sec or so.  That's really not good for our D.  We all remember what it was like to play behind the chains during the Briles time, as well. Sounds a lot like Chad.
-Requires a smart dual threat QB.
-Likes smaller pass catching TEs, that won't work out so well in SEC play Sounds a lot like Chad.
-Likes smaller quicker OL, again that won't work so well in SEC play Sounds a lot like Chad.
-His defense has only given up on avg 32yds less per game than ours this year... that's really not good.

It's not my fault you get butthurt and go full retard with your rantings... while failing to actually refute anything.  You are what you are and we're all fortunate that you're rarely here.

[Texzilla]

From what I've seen as far as tape goes, including the 4th and 5 one I linked, Golesh's offense doesn't really look like Heupel's or really TN while Golesh was there.  Yes, some elements and similarities... but Golesh's offense is a much faster tempo with more RPO from what I've seen.

My fear with that approach is how bad that goes when playing behind the chains, the strain on the defense, and the fact that at this level you need elite athletes to even consider being successful... we seem to struggle with all of those things.

Also, as noted in my previous post on him, his defense was a whopping 32yrds better than ours.

Hopefully he understands how to manage his offense for the particular game situation. 

The hunh is simply how one manages the tempo of the game.  I have no issue with it in many cases as it can limit free substitution, and it requires great stamina of the athletes.  One can use any offense under its parameters whether spread, winged T , or wishbone or k gun.