Arkansas vs Tennessee

[BleedinRed]

Same Petrino from 2008.  Team was not very good but he had a plan.  We improved every game.  That is what I'm looking for in our next coach.  

[HOGSRUNWILD]

I said before this stretch that if we look like the end of 2008 or 2009, give them man the job and whatever he wants.  You could see we didn't have the pieces we needed yet, but we had a plan and the players were fully bought in and it WAS going to work...and it did. 

The difference in not only execution, but just fight and effort between this and two weeks ago was...stunning.  Right now, they THINK they can win.  They need to tie up some things and actually win a couple and so they KNOW they can win.  Big difference between thinking you can win and knowing you can win.  Then comes expecting to win if you execute.  Not just expecting to win, but knowing that if you execute, you are going to win.  That is what our guys had in 2010/2011 for the most part.  They didn't think they were going to win just by stepping on the field, but they even talking about plays that if they executed, they just knew they would score when it was called.  Man, that hits different.

[BleedinRed]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cGktb5157lY

Compare and contrast with a Sam post gamer.  Even if BP is the long term answer, it's nice having a guy who can speak to the details of the game immediately after the game.  And he has an answer instead of I don't knows.  

[The Whyte Boar]

dude, you led the charge in saying it's not about nil, it's not about the players, and now you completely change your tune.

there was noticeable improvement, and i'm happy bp got them to show effort, but if it was all coaching, including the turnovers, two weeks ago (and it certainly wasn't), then tell me why it's different now.

Because you don't completely change culture and conditioning in two weeks.  Come on, you really can't be that anti-Petrino can you? lol

[jdcatty]

The offense played better at times, for sure.  Not so sure about the defense. In the first half, I think almost every single pass Tennessee threw was to a wide fucking open receiver.

Definitely had an improvement on penalties, especially the first half.

I have never been defeatist about our program, but I don't see how we can win more than one or two games with the defense we have.

[vegashog]

Because you don't completely change culture and conditioning in two weeks.  Come on, you really can't be that anti-Petrino can you? lol

where did i mention petrino? my post was directed at you and once again you don't answer the question, just throw some shit back. you don't own what you say. whatever.

[Too Big Pig]

Exactly.  Like early Petrino.  We aren't good, but here's how we are going to move forward.

[buff2.0]

props to petrino for calling himself out at the presser.

said they made adjustments in the running game at half and he got too stubborn in sticking with it. also said going for it on the 4th down was a mistake.

I still think there was a plan on 4th down, based on how quickly Green looked right as soon as he took the snap.  Either they lucked into covering it with the safety, or he did what he tends to do and bailed out of the pocket too fast.  Either way it's in Bobby's best interest to keep that secret to himself and save the play for later.

Or it could have just been a bad call.  I'm one of the ones who aren't going to be mad about this game.  Lot of people are saying a loss is a loss and is proof he's not the answer at head coach - as if a "better" coach could have turned a 13-56 home loss against Notre Dame into a 31-34 road loss against #12 Tennessee.

[The Whyte Boar]

where did i mention petrino? my post was directed at you and once again you don't answer the question, just throw some shit back. you don't own what you say. whatever.

I guess I'm not smart enough to get your point then.  I felt like the team battled and stayed in a game making it closer than it probably should have been with the number of mistakes.  And as I said, it was a game that probably shouldn't have been a one score game.

As for players and NIL, this team with Petrino as coach since last spring would be 5-1 right now.  So, yea it is all about coaching.

[buff2.0]

What's with the shades?  Most of the 2nd half was dark.  Seems like he might could see the game better if he took the shades off.

It's Cyborg Bobby coaching during the game.  The real Bobby is back in his office balls deep in volleyball player giving commands through a headset.

[Corn Pop]

What's with the shades?  Most of the 2nd half was dark.  Seems like he might could see the game better if he took the shades off.

Are you a schoolteacher too?

[Corn Pop]

The offense played better at times, for sure.  Not so sure about the defense. In the first half, I think almost every single pass Tennessee threw was to a wide fucking open receiver.

Definitely had an improvement on penalties, especially the first half.

I have never been defeatist about our program, but I don't see how we can win more than one or two games with the defense we have.

When somebody says it's not about the money, it's about the money. When somebody says they are not a defeatist, they are a defeatist.

[Barton Fink]

I sure wish we had the TT Dline....

[passed]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cGktb5157lY

Compare and contrast with a Sam post gamer.  Even if BP is the long term answer, it's nice having a guy who can speak to the details of the game immediately after the game.  And he has an answer instead of I don't knows. 

BP getting a bit emotional there talking about how the team came together and how proud he is of them.

[jdcatty]

When somebody says it's not about the money, it's about the money. When somebody says they are not a defeatist, they are a defeatist.

What I said was I have never been a defeatist before.  I am about this team.  I don't think BP has the magic to change the defense enough.

We just don't have the players.

[Feral]

What I said was I have never been a defeatist before.  I am about this team.  I don't think BP has the magic to change the defense enough.

We just don't have the players.

I would love to see "fuck it" mode BP roll with KJ Jackson. You got nothing to lose, why not go balls out?

[bigpig]

BP getting a bit emotional there talking about how the team came together and how proud he is of them.

Just a hunch. These guys won't lay down and quit next week like they would have with Sam. I think they see that he can put them in a position to win.

Kids don't often like hard work, but few like being a loser.

[Natty_Ice]

I have never been defeatist about our program, but I don't see how we can win more than one or two games with the defense we have.

And those one or two wins are already in the books, unfortunately.

[HOGSRUNWILD]

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, that couldn't see the change in the team in just two weeks is either blind or retarded.  There are still quite a few questions:

1. Will it stick.  Will they continue to put out that effort even though they lost and continue to build on it?
2. Can they be fixed?  Some issues, like effort, can 100% fixed if the team is 100% bought in.  That is a certain thing.  Then you can see what the CAPABILITY of the team really is.  Then things get scary.  Then you can see areas where a players is trying is 100% best and just can't do what is being asked of them, either physically or mentally.

2A.  Physically:  Is it because they aren't in shape or not strong enough?  Those CAN be fixed but take time and not likely to be fully fixed during the year.  Granted, being out of shape can make you look weaker than you really are so conditioning has to be priority 1, but again, that is hard to fix during the year.  Exhaustion looks like weakness. Need to fix that to find out what our true strength is compared to the competition.  Our line (OFFENSIVE) got ran over a couple of times last night 100% because they were sucking air and worn out.  That isn't excusable.
2B. Physically Unable:  Dude is 100% effort, 100% in shape but just can't do it.  Either isn't big enough, strong enough or fast enough to compete in the SEC.  Can't really fix that without recruiting your way out of that or using scheme to hide them but that can only get you so far.
 
2C. Mentally:  This comes down to mostly the QB, Line and some defense like LB/DB's.  Can they recognize what they are seeing in real-time and make the right read with the speed required and then execute.  I think we are seeing a lot of this.  If you are going to run complex schemes, on offense or defense, you have to run exacting and demanding practices that demand PERFECTION with repetition until it is second nature. OVer and over and over and over until when they see something, their mind and body just react on instinct.  I'm 99% certain our practices were not run that way.  You can fix that by getting smarter players or simplifying the scheme.  We simplified the scheme on defense and they looked amazingly better.  They still gave up some plays, but you have to remember that TN is one of the best offenses in the nation, at home, zero turnovers and we held them better than anyone this year.  That is quite an accomplishment for this defense.  Dudes got open, but they weren't all alone like they have been the last few games.

3.  Toughness: This is where those summer practices come in and just all the practices in general come in.  Perfection in everything with consequences for everything.  We aren't tough and haven't been for over a decade.  That is why we do so many stupid things like fumble so much and commit so many penalties.  Those things add up and are a cultural thing.  Once they are acceptable, they are acceptable and it is hard to cut out that rot.  This will take time to remove. 

Going forward, as much as wins/losses, I want to see how these things progress.  Much like late 2008 and in 2009, I EXPECT to see us not have the players to compete with the top teams, but have many of these fixable things fixed and then have to recruit into some players to improve further.

[The Whyte Boar]

Conditioning and depth.  Those are our problems.  Last night we looked like in the 3rd quarter we looked like a runner who hits the wall.  But we kept plugging and found new energy.