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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 07, 2024, 12:57 PMIf the model is moving to one or two super conferences, then it doesn't matter.  Arkansas isn't competing in that situation. 

If it stays at 4 or 5 power conferences then I say we move to the one where we can get 10 wins a year and have a legit shot of making the playoffs. 

The SEC clearly hasn't been a net benefit for the athletics department.   We still don't have enough money to compete apparently.  What's the point of staying?

With 12 teams, you don't need ten wins.  Eight could put you in it in lots of years.  We can do that.  No reason we shouldn't be where South Carolina is right now.

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Arkansas is a better fit in the Big 12 but we would still manage to get smoked by a lot of these teams with less revenue sharing so there's that. Also this is where I mention that the revenue from the SEC and marketing packages helps fund other programs on campus like our women's basketball program. :stache:
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Barton Fink

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 07, 2024, 12:57 PMIf the model is moving to one or two super conferences, then it doesn't matter.  Arkansas isn't competing in that situation. 

If it stays at 4 or 5 power conferences then I say we move to the one where we can get 10 wins a year and have a legit shot of making the playoffs. 

The SEC clearly hasn't been a net benefit for the athletics department.   We still don't have enough money to compete apparently.  What's the point of staying?

Expanded the SEC has not helped us.

BleedinRed


BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 07, 2024, 01:10 PMWith 12 teams, you don't need ten wins.  Eight could put you in it in lots of years.  We can do that.  No reason we shouldn't be where South Carolina is right now.

South Carolina has more than 8 wins.  

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 07, 2024, 01:19 PMSouth Carolina has more than 8 wins. 

Well, no reason we can't be as good as them.  If you average eight, you're going to have years where you do better.

mde114

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 01:17 PMExpanded the SEC has not helped us.

It made Arkansas irrelevant in football.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 12:18 PMI assume you mean if he has equal support in MIL as the other's correct?

It's funny... not long ago his name was mentioned when he was at Auburn and you couldn't find 1 person that wanted him.

Lashlee has proven himself as a head coach since Auburn last hired someone. 

I think it's pretty much guaranteed we would get more NIL support with Lashlee than with Pittman. 

If you give Sam the same NIL as all those coaches, he still slots into the same place...just above Lebby.   
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Barton Fink

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 07, 2024, 01:49 PMLashlee has proven himself as a head coach since Auburn last hired someone. 

I think it's pretty much guaranteed we would get more NIL support with Lashlee than with Pittman. 

If you give Sam the same NIL as all those coaches, he still slots into the same place...just above Lebby.   

You sure give Lashlee a lot of props for a guy with 1 year of ACC experience. I think he sits in the same position as SP. Just above TWB's boy Lebby.
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Show-Me Hog

Well the Az state game got out of hand while I was watching a shitty half of basketball.

45-13 now.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Barton Fink on Dec 07, 2024, 02:00 PMYou sure give Lashlee a lot of props for a guy with 1 year of ACC experience. I think he sits in the same position as SP. Just above TWB's boy Lebby.
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One year, with a bottom tier roster and he is about to win the league. 

There is zero chance Pittman could have done that...especially at this stage of his career. 
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Barton Fink

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 07, 2024, 02:28 PMOne year, with a bottom tier roster and he is about to win the league. 

There is zero chance Pittman could have done that...especially at this stage of his career. 

He's benefited by an easy schedule. His best wins are Pitt and LVille. Pittman beat TN.


Doc Hogaday

Bid for back-to-back nattys in Searcy is over. Ferris State whips Harding 41-7.
Pants ironed and back for more

Texzilla

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 07, 2024, 12:57 PMIf the model is moving to one or two super conferences, then it doesn't matter.  Arkansas isn't competing in that situation. 

If it stays at 4 or 5 power conferences then I say we move to the one where we can get 10 wins a year and have a legit shot of making the playoffs. 

The SEC clearly hasn't been a net benefit for the athletics department.   We still don't have enough money to compete apparently.  What's the point of staying?

Do you live your life in Loserville?  No one would dream of leaving the SEC for one of the soon to be relegated to shit status conferences. 
The answer isn't leaving as this crew would play down to its competition.  You really want to be playing West Virginia and Kansas? Fuck that shit.

The answer is simple.  Hire a new AD who understands the new realities of college sports. Who then hires a coach who knows how to win, recruit in all phases, and electrifies the state.  Who also is able to unlock the big money in the state pro support NIL properly.  And who knows the competitive landscape in staffing and supoort that delivers winning teams.  If Laine can do it at Ole Miss it can be done here.  Otherwise just keep if football into an intramural club sport.

The world will soon be a two group superconference.  We will  be in. Rev share will be huge.  You don't want to be  outside looking in.

Son of Spam

Quote from: Texzilla on Dec 07, 2024, 03:40 PMDo you live your life in Loserville?  No one would dream of leaving the SEC for one of the soon to be relegated to shit status conferences. 
The answer isn't leaving as this crew would play down to its competition.  You really want to be playing West Virginia and Kansas? Fuck that shit.

The answer is simple.  Hire a new AD who understands the new realities of college sports. Who then hires a coach who knows how to win, recruit in all phases, and electrifies the state.  Who also is able to unlock the big money in the state pro support NIL properly.  And who knows the competitive landscape in staffing and supoort that delivers winning teams.  If Laine can do it at Ole Miss it can be done here.  Otherwise just keep if football into an intramural club sport.

The world will soon be a two group superconference.  We will  be in. Rev share will be huge.  You don't want to be  outside looking in.
As we keep adding teams, it shrinks our recruiting base. We won't be able to get many from Texass or Okie now. We may have to start looking at players from other conferences that want to play in the SEC.
Well, shit...

Show-Me Hog

It feels like Texas has had the ball for the entire game.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Texzilla on Dec 07, 2024, 03:40 PMDo you live your life in Loserville?  No one would dream of leaving the SEC for one of the soon to be relegated to shit status conferences. 
The answer isn't leaving as this crew would play down to its competition.  You really want to be playing West Virginia and Kansas? Fuck that shit.

The answer is simple.  Hire a new AD who understands the new realities of college sports. Who then hires a coach who knows how to win, recruit in all phases, and electrifies the state.  Who also is able to unlock the big money in the state pro support NIL properly.  And who knows the competitive landscape in staffing and supoort that delivers winning teams.  If Laine can do it at Ole Miss it can be done here.  Otherwise just keep if football into an intramural club sport.

The world will soon be a two group superconference.  We will  be in. Rev share will be huge.  You don't want to be  outside looking in.

I'm pretty sure 40 years from now this will still be a topic of conversation.  

Son of Spam

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 07, 2024, 04:00 PMIt feels like Texas has had the ball for the entire game.
A real defensive struggle. Not much scoring.
Well, shit...

Texzilla

Quote from: Son of Spam on Dec 07, 2024, 03:47 PMAs we keep adding teams, it shrinks our recruiting base. We won't be able to get many from Texass or Okie now. We may have to start looking at players from other conferences that want to play in the SEC.

There's only a handful of teams that might get an invite, if any.  Let's say the sec and Big10 stay static. The new league will have the biggest potential TV deals, most nil rev share, and most prestigious championship.  Players will want to be there rather that the temu level conference schools. 

It will change recruiting for all schools in the superconference.  I think we'll see changes in how nil works as well as I expect them to allow agents and multiyear contracts.

Arkansas needs to expand or add a GM and staff, add scouting, add social media talent, add s/c, and game analytics.  On top of expanded nil. 

The days of a TE coach driving all my over East Texas is over as your primary vehicle.  And you can't build a team strictly on HS recruits anymore even if you're Alabama.

Go big forward a top hs player will want to go to the SC.  Players who don't rate will go to the remnants to make film in hopes of portaling to the SC after sophomore seasons.  You have to retain your homegrown stars and keep them from leaving.  And you have to live in the portal for signing players that slide into it.  Sam don't understand any of that.

BleedinRed

I bet Sam understands more than you give him credit for.  

I'm at a loss as to why guys like you and TWB are not in some role within an athletic department somewhere.  Yall apparently have cracked the code.  

And Arizona State, who isn't in the SEC, has made the playoffs.