Razorback Football

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egregious

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 01, 2023, 07:23 AMSam in his Petrino press conference:

If someone wants to portal, we generally can't stop them, because usually they have been offered a financial package that makes them want to portal. We don't do that. Arkansas Edge will help us keep guys, but we don't poach guys from other schools. At some point the NCAA has to make rules about poaching.

Do you think the bold part is true? To make a simple example, do you think Mississippi State will make a $$$ offer to KJ, but we won't make a $$$ offer to Will Rogers? If so, are we behind the curve AGAIN?

depends on whether we contact them before or after they enter the portal

If we offer after they have said they are leaving that's not really poaching.  The school also has deniability from not knowing what fans might be doing.
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bigpig

I hope he's being coy, if not outright deceptive.

We better do that, especially if everyone else is. College Football is no place to stand on your principles. That's how you lose. You have to be cutthroat.

Use backdoor channels if you must, so that you can say "we" aren't recruiting people to transfer, but one way or another, players at other schools need to be told "hey, if you go to Arkansas, here's what they'll offer a QB/OL/WR, etc like you..."
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 01, 2023, 07:37 AMRe: QB capabilities. Without going back to find the posts, there were comments here about how Ryan Mallet and Lamar Jackson weren't scientific rockets, either (comparing KJ).

In his press conference, Petrino specifically said that they were. He said Mallet was one of his smartest quarterbacks ever, and Lamar Jackson was the same way. They could both go to the line of scrimmage, see the defense, and get you out of a bad play call.
People assumed Mallett was a dumb ass because of the way he carried himself, but he was a bright guy, especially in terms of football. 
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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Dec 01, 2023, 07:56 AMPeople assumed Mallett was a dumb ass because of the way he carried himself, but he was a bright guy, especially in terms of football. 

I'm pretty sure Mallett got a 27 on the Wonderlic test which put him slightly above average for NFL QBs and quite a bit above several other guys who were perceived as "bright" around that same time.

animal

Quote from: bigpig on Dec 01, 2023, 07:54 AMI hope he's being coy, if not outright deceptive.

We better do that, especially if everyone else is. College Football is no place to stand on your principles. That's how you lose. You have to be cutthroat.

Use backdoor channels if you must, so that you can say "we" aren't recruiting people to transfer, but one way or another, players at other schools need to be told "hey, if you go to Arkansas, here's what they'll offer a QB/OL/WR, etc like you..."

I imagine the players themselves probably converse and if there is interest in gets run up the flag pole. Then back down the flag pole when the poached player is given a number or maybe assurances that there is interest once they entered
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Pighair

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Dec 01, 2023, 07:23 AMSam in his Petrino press conference:

If someone wants to portal, we generally can't stop them, because usually they have been offered a financial package that makes them want to portal. We don't do that. Arkansas Edge will help us keep guys, but we don't poach guys from other schools. At some point the NCAA has to make rules about poaching.

Do you think the bold part is true? To make a simple example, do you think Mississippi State will make a $$$ offer to KJ, but we won't make a $$$ offer to Will Rogers? If so, are we behind the curve AGAIN?

Is he saying we won't make an offer if they aren't in the portal or we won't make an offer at all?

bigpig

Kennedy to Miss St is about to be announced, per the twatters.

I would expect Eric Mateos to be named the replacement. He was a GA under Sam during his first stint here, and has been the OL coach at BYU and Baylor.
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BleedinRed

Quote from: Pighair on Dec 01, 2023, 08:26 AMIs he saying we won't make an offer if they aren't in the portal or we won't make an offer at all?

He is saying we won't try to get a guy to portal by first making him a financial offer.  

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: bigpig on Dec 01, 2023, 08:29 AMKennedy to Miss St is about to be announced, per the twatters.

So maybe KJ will follow him there and play left tackle.

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 01, 2023, 08:30 AMHe is saying we won't try to get a guy to portal by first making him a financial offer. 

Since he used the word "poached" I assume this is what he meant.

buff2.0

Why would Lebby go to his first HC gig and then hire the recruiter and position coach for one of the worst OLines in the country?
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: buff2.0 on Dec 01, 2023, 08:34 AMWhy would Lebby go to his first HC gig and then hire the recruiter and position coach for one of the worst OLines in the country?

Kennedy wasn't so bad running the Briles system which is what Lebby does. 

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 01, 2023, 08:40 AMKennedy wasn't so bad running the Briles system which is what Lebby does. 

He wasn't good either.  Briles' system is much more forgiving of poor line play due to the splits.
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Rocket City Hawg

ADG has a story that CK is not returning to the staff while Al's mentioning the MSU angle

buff2.0

So the man isn't good at coaching an OL and needs a playcaller to bail his line out.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Rick B.

I really feel like the dreams of all of woopig are all coming true right now.  RE:  Kennedy, The Petrion, and Duke BB win.

BASS

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Quote from: Rick B. on Dec 01, 2023, 10:29 AMI really feel like the dreams of all of woopig are all coming true right now.  RE:  Kennedy, The Petrion, and Duke BB win.

God is paying you back for all the shit you have been through.

Broken neck, bad heart valve, Chad Morris, Houston nutt, John pelphrey, Stan Heath, Brett bielema, penn wagers, perry costello, Carson shaddy.  Job has pity on you.
Fuck your feelings
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
I have hawgtism

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Rick B. on Dec 01, 2023, 10:29 AMI really feel like the dreams of all of woopig are all coming true right now.  RE:  Kennedy, The Petrion, and Duke BB win.

Razorback sports is like Arkansas weather. Do you remember last Friday?


Usafhawg

Quote from: BASS on Dec 01, 2023, 11:02 AMGod is paying you back for all the shit you have been through.

Broken neck, bad heart valve, Chad Morris, Houston nutt, John pelphrey, Stan Heath, Brett bielema, penn wagers, perry costello, Carson shaddy.  Job has pity on you.
Don't forget. He shot himself too