Sam Pittman Tread of Stupidity, Despair, Frustration

Started by Texzilla, Aug 29, 2025, 10:00 AM

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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 21, 2025, 10:11 AMI hear what you're saying and see the validity. 

My point is that if they fire Sam today, all that does is make Arkansas fans feel better.  It doesn't do shit to elevate the program off the bottom.  Whoever we hire as the next coach will do that. 

Unless we change the AD, I'm not sure even a new coach can help. 

Making the fans feel better, particularly in the era where they need NIL money, IS a fundamental step in elevating the program off the bottom.

BleedinRed

Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Sep 21, 2025, 10:11 AMI don't agree.  Keeping same disenfranchises more and more fans and once they are gone, they are hard to get back.  Sure, they might casually watch again, but those aren't the ones that give the $$ you need.

We all know Sam is done here.  It is 100% on Polymarket.   He can't beat the house on this hand.  Done. 

The fans and $$ are already gone.  The NIL whores on this board have talked nonstop about it.  The big Mo ye guys will come back.   Fans like me will be back with a big hire.  

Keeping him or firing him right now doesn't matter.  Hiring the next coach is all that matters.  And we ain't doing that until the season is over anyway.  

Again, all firing Sam does today is make Arkansas fans all feel better.  And I agree there is value in that.  I for one hope it happens.  

HOGSRUNWILD

You fire Sam, make BP interim to stop the bleeding.  Fire HY and get a new AD during this year.  Then in the offseason the new AD hires a new coach.  That could be to retain BP if he still has it or thank him and hire someone new, but it would be a new AD doing the hiring. 

That is how you do it. 

BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 21, 2025, 10:14 AMMaking the fans feel better, particularly in the era where they need NIL money, IS a fundamental step in elevating the program off the bottom.
The fans who give money are going to give money if the right coach is hired.  Everyone knows Sam is dead man walking.  

To be clear, I hope they fire him today.  

BleedinRed

Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Sep 21, 2025, 10:17 AMYou fire Sam, make BP interim to stop the bleeding.  Fire HY and get a new AD during this year.  Then in the offseason the new AD hires a new coach.  That could be to retain BP if he still has it or thank him and hire someone new, but it would be a new AD doing the hiring. 

That is how you do it. 

Im on board with this.  

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Sep 21, 2025, 10:17 AMYou fire Sam, make BP interim to stop the bleeding.  Fire HY and get a new AD during this year.  Then in the offseason the new AD hires a new coach.  That could be to retain BP if he still has it or thank him and hire someone new, but it would be a new AD doing the hiring. 

That is how you do it. 

I agree. 

BleedinRed

You guys know though that while that it is the right answer, Arkansas football never takes the right answer.  They will screw this up in epic fashion.  

HOGSRUNWILD

There are two things needed to lift the curse

1.  Build the fucking Nolan Statue
2.  Give BP his redemption arc as HC if he still has the fire and has "IT" and he wants to.

We all know the last time we didn't have every fucking bounce go against us and the last time we didn't lose every close game.  That was under BP.  Since then, NOTHING has gone right.

No better way to find out than to let him finish out this year as interim.  If it works out, great, if not, you gave him a shot.  Either way, the second part of the curse is lifted.  Just need the statue.

Son of Spam

I think this year is going to be Chad Morris level bad. I don't see us winning an SEC game. Not because of offense, but our defense is abysmal.
Well, shit...

wmr

Quote from: Feral on Sep 20, 2025, 07:57 PMAlong with buying hook line and sinker our media's bullshit about how we "do things the right way" and how paying players is "cheating."

Paying players is basically codified law and yet chuds like Irwin still talk about schools "cheating."
Quote from: Feral on Sep 20, 2025, 07:57 PMAlong with buying hook line and sinker our media's bullshit about how we "do things the right way" and how paying players is "cheating."
 

Why is our sports media so consistently stupid?  Is it a hangover from the days of JFB granting or removing access to the program based on how much they'd kiss ass?

Are most SEC schools local media this way?
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wmr

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 21, 2025, 10:21 AMYou guys know though that while that it is the right answer, Arkansas football never takes the right answer.  They will screw this up in epic fashion. 

We fumble every opportunity.
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animal

I agree about Petrino. It's just about got to be him and the sooner the better but we are living in a world where if 4 weeks saves you 10 million or whatever the number is and you can bet we're taking 4 weeks to make that call. I don't know that we're fixing this shit this season anyway but I'd love to see Petrino get a crack at it while there's time to possibly salvage it. What's the real cost of NOT DOING SOMETHING? 

I think Petrino is already making chicken salad with this offense but more on that in a bit. Like all old guru play callers their time to shine is fleeting. Yesterday I could easily see the run vs pass plays and if I can see it surely a D1 DC can. To me our RPO game and a lot of that shit that was working last year isn't working very well this season. It looks disjointed and weird. It's getting blown up fairly often which makes me thing there's a tell that defenses are keying in on. Well that and Carmona is a Spanish bullfighter. We also have weird shit happening like we forget we had TE's that were getting open and making plays early in the game. In the later part of the game we were running plays that were exactly what the defense was prepared for. It's like they read our god damn book. Like Green didn't understand what they were showing him and couldn't adjust and you know he's been coached up on that shit. And what happened to getting a timeout and talking things over? I think that sequence of throwing two near interceptions on consecutive passes would have been a dandy time to get a blow and talk things over. But we opted for the 3rd throw being a easy int on what was EXACTLY the same play call. What concept we were going for up in the box and what KJ Jefferson Taylen Green was seeing I don't have a clue. Like what are you not fucking seeing there kid? They are jumping the crossing routes so you need to be looking for XYZ to happen. Petrino knows what he wanted out of that play and Green wasn't delivering. I'd bet money you could look at the tape and see something that the kid wasn't seeing. 

Aside from Blake, Russell, Williams, and a couple TE's the rest are iffy head cases and edge P5 talent at best. How cliche of me but I do really believe if you put in the new KJ model in a QB we're probably winning one or both of these last couple games. That KJ kid to me looks like a quick decision maker and probably less prone to mistakes. Taylen is all about big plays and his focus and mechanics go to shit fairly often. I admit there are a ot of SEC teams (with defenses) that would love to have him but if you have a team with no defense you cannot afford mistakes on offense. That goes for the QB and the other ball carriers who've killed us on totally preventable fumbles. Those fumbles and the way the defense plays to me suggest that we were soft as fuck in fall camp trying to "stay fresh" because "we're a really good football team". Yes that's what we were hearing. This coach is fucking clueless. 

So anyway what may happen is a change at DC. We have two titled DC's and both are basically Auburn/FSU guys that have been up and down in their careers. We're rounded out with Deke Adams who has done nothing in his career of note other than manage to keep DL coaching jobs for reasons that escape me. The other guy is Nick Perry or something and he's a NFL guy that also worked under Saban so probably the smartest one there...and probably also the one that's going to get fired.


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Cornhogio

Notwithstanding all the factors that make it different now, I recall when Jack Crowe got fired we came out and shit stomped South Carolina the next week.  Got smoked by Alabama the next week, but they were national champs that year.
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DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Sep 21, 2025, 09:44 AMOne thing I don't think HY and those guys understand is that you can't be a 6 or 7 win team in the SEC.  If you shoot for that, you're gonna be a three or four win team.  In the SEC the 6 or 7 are good teams that suffered injuries or underachieved. 

You can't put a program on cruise control and expect anything but disaster.  Saying stupid shit like HY said last week is a recipe for a two win season if actually put into practice. 

This needs to be put on a billboard for Yuracheck to see every morning.

Mazeppa Pompazoidi

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 21, 2025, 10:11 AMUnless we change the AD, I'm not sure even a new coach can help. 

This cannot be said enough.  I do not want Yurachek hiring the next coach.  He totally fucked up the last football hire and his negotiating skills are terrible.  Add to that he ain't worth a shit at fundraising and he has no idea how to implement a successful NIL program.  He needs to go right fucking now so that we can have a new AD in place to hire the next football coach.

FNG

I am firmly on the BMFP bandwagon. He has been the one constant positive on this staff since his arrival.

During his tenure as OC, Kendall Briles' best year was a 470 ypg average. Petrino averaged 459.5 ypg last year and is currently averaging 552.0 ypg after 4 games. He has molded TG into the #8 national (#2 SEC) in passing yards and the leading QB rusher in the nation. Mike Washington is the #5 rusher in the SEC (TG is #3) and Blake is #4 in receiving yds.

People speak of a "kinder, gentler" BMFP but I guarandamntee you that not one single player will be seen loafing on either side of the ball if he becomes HC. We might be playing true freshmen and scout teamers but they will be hustling.

I just don't know if he wants to deal with the cast of idiots overseeing the Athletic Department anymore.

obijuana

You want to send the PTB a message? You want change? Stay home. Spend your money elsewhere. That will fix everything. A serious AD will be found. A competent head coach will be hired.

They want YOUR money. More than anything. 30,000 empty seats against the biggest opponent in the stadiums history will send a message that won't be ignored.
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Hogfan58

Quote from: FNG on Sep 21, 2025, 11:26 AMI am firmly on the BMFP bandwagon. He has been the one constant positive on this staff since his arrival.

During his tenure as OC, Kendall Briles' best year was a 470 ypg average. Petrino averaged 459.5 ypg last year and is currently averaging 552.0 ypg after 4 games. He has molded TG into the #8 national (#2 SEC) in passing yards and the leading QB rusher in the nation. Mike Washington is the #5 rusher in the SEC (TG is #3) and Blake is #4 in receiving yds.

People speak of a "kinder, gentler" BMFP but I guarandamntee you that not one single player will be seen loafing on either side of the ball if he becomes HC. We might be playing true freshmen and scout teamers but they will be hustling.

I just don't know if he wants to deal with the cast of idiots overseeing the Athletic Department anymore.

I love Bobby and offense is great, but the last 2 weeks has shown that it doesn't matter if you average a gazzilion yds a game, all it takes is 1 mistake and you lose. You have to have defense that can stop someone, that at least is middle of the pack in the conference, not rock bottom worst. We have today and we're sitting at 4-0. A over-rated 4-0 but that's ok. Defense is about effort and there was none yesterday. It was glaring and embarrassing.
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buff2.0

Quote from: FNG on Sep 21, 2025, 11:26 AMI am firmly on the BMFP bandwagon. He has been the one constant positive on this staff since his arrival.

During his tenure as OC, Kendall Briles' best year was a 470 ypg average. Petrino averaged 459.5 ypg last year and is currently averaging 552.0 ypg after 4 games. He has molded TG into the #8 national (#2 SEC) in passing yards and the leading QB rusher in the nation. Mike Washington is the #5 rusher in the SEC (TG is #3) and Blake is #4 in receiving yds.

People speak of a "kinder, gentler" BMFP but I guarandamntee you that not one single player will be seen loafing on either side of the ball if he becomes HC. We might be playing true freshmen and scout teamers but they will be hustling.

I just don't know if he wants to deal with the cast of idiots overseeing the Athletic Department anymore.

I doubt there's anyone out there in the college game that could break down film the way Bobby can.  If he doesn't want the HC role again you kidnap his family and tell him to have his pick of a young OC and DC and their support/position staffs, and then get on your knees and beg him to teach them and let them do their jobs.  Pay him to do that until he's 70, and see if he can manage to step back and only be the timeout caller and lead ass chewer during the games.  Hell, bring back Paul, put him in the booth, and let him be the eyes in the sky.

Also let him publicly castrate Sowders if he wants.
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animal

As bad as the defense has been we were in a position to win these games (or take the lead) thru offense and shit the bed each time. Both very preventable fumbles by better execution. Giving them a td to end the half basically killed us. The early INT ended up being a score for them I believe so with a clean offense and no DPI we're cruising into half probably up 35-3 or some shit. 

Defensively I feel like we are using poor technique in each position group which in turn is getting us into a lot of penalty situations. Lazy fuckers reaching and grabbing. In truth yesterday we were often times there to make the play but it would be 1 guy at a time and very little to no pursuit to the ball. I noted this as a concern after the Bama Aggie game. Evidently there's not a swinging dick on the roster that can make a fucking open field tackle.
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