Sam Pittman Tread of Stupidity, Despair, Frustration

[Son of Spam]

Every game for us is winnable....right up until kickoff.

[bigpig]

It probably "was" winnable at the beginning of the season. Now, not so much.

Yeah stats and analytics can't measure the human element.

[FNG]

Y'all do realize that unless HY gets canned too, we're gonna have to live through four more losses to see the buyout reduction. Right?

He's 29-26 right now.

Trey Biddy (citing a "lawyer" source) expects Sam to be fired during the bye week despite the $3 million difference in payout due to two reasons: the automatic 30-day portal exception after a HC firing and the fact that players cannot self- redshirt after participating in more than 4 games. Any players portaling mid season would have a hard time finding a spot when most teams have full rosters and all the significant players would have 5 games under their belts after ND.

[FNG]

Fayettevillians thinks the ND game is winnable.

https://www.fayvillains.com/2025/09/21/box-score-breakdown-memphis-32-arkansas-31/

Of course we will win. It's the most Arkansas thing ever. If nothing else, Satan has a sense of humor.

[Thin Red Swine]

Trey Biddy (citing a "lawyer" source) expects Sam to be fired during the bye week despite the $3 million difference in payout due to two reasons: the automatic 30-day portal exception after a HC firing and the fact that players cannot self- redshirt after participating in more than 4 games. Any players portaling mid season would have a hard time finding a spot when most teams have full rosters and all the significant players would have 5 games under their belts after ND.

Well I hope he's right. I'll wait for the pudding.

[HogOfWar]

Of course we will win. It's the most Arkansas thing ever. If nothing else, Satan has a sense of humor.

Now that Trey says he will be fired in the off week, we will. It will be an Orgeron situation again.

[Texzilla]

Can the state condemn his property on the lake and seize it, declare him and enemy of the state, and expel him and his wife. 

[vegashog]

here's what biddy actually posted:

"Ignore the other figures. Everything is right except the money.

I am told, by a lawyer, it's prorated but it would be at about $10.2 million at 75% buyout, and then would drop to about $7.3 million if he fell below .500.

But this is what is more important than $3 million difference and why UCLA and VT both made important decisions on their coaches when they did.

The day a head coach is fired, the portal automatically opens up for those players for 30 days.

Right now after a termination, transfer if you want, but there are no roster spots available on other teams' rosters because we're in the middle of the season. So if Pittman is terminated, there is no advantage for the players right now to hop in the portal during this 30-day window.

If a change happens after the season or much later in the year, the players would basically get early access to the portal that opens in January, and Arkansas would be in a very bad situation. At week 4, there is also the self-redshirt opportunity for current players."

it was another poster that brought up the bye week in regards to the portal, but it was a question.

[Hognrock]

Y'all do realize that unless HY gets canned too, we're gonna have to live through four more losses to see the buyout reduction. Right?

He's 29-26 right now.

That is one goal that is attainable for this team.

I have a hard time believing he's "working the phones"...that sounds like high school girl gossip. There may be people working the phones calling him to feel him out. There may be the same set of folks in his corner that got him back are actively trying to make this happen.

You might or might not be surprised how much rival coaches in travel ball and high school talk weekly.  We talked weekly with other coaches about scouting reports, kids, etc.  I'm sure that happens, maybe thru different channels, in high D1 athletics.

[Usafhawg]

While I agree that Petrino makes the most sense as the interim, I do NOT want him long term. For good reason, everybody is blaming the defense for Saturday, but let's not forget the offense put up THREE points in the second half.
Also, his last 4 years as a head coach, he has a 20-23 overall record and is 14-15 in conference games during that time. Grandpa Petrino is not the same BMFP that roamed the sidelines from 2008-2011.

[DirkPiggler]

While I agree that Petrino makes the most sense as the interim, I do NOT want him long term. For good reason, everybody is blaming the defense for Saturday, but let's not forget the offense put up THREE points in the second half.
Also, his last 4 years as a head coach, he has a 20-23 overall record and is 14-15 in conference games during that time. Grandpa Petrino is not the same BMFP that roamed the sidelines from 2008-2011.

Counterpoints:

Turnovers played a key role in the lack of points in the second half of our last two games.  The plays called were still effective in moving the ball.

The offense should get a little grace due to the stress of knowing they have to score every single drive for the team to have a chance, or at least for knowing that if at any point they fall behind by more than one score the game is likely over.  It's hard to play with the weight of an entire team and a 300 pound coach's future on your back.

You are cherry picking a bit.  Why not stop at three years given the gap in service?  Or extend it to 5-6 years?  For instance, if you expand to six you find that he had two conference co-championships in that time frame, along with a Heisman trophy winner.  Or if you stop at three years you leave out his one truly horrible season, one that was strongly affected by an NCAA and FBI investigation into the Louisville athletic program which was not looking into Petrino or football at all but caused the firing of the AD who hired Bobby twice. 

I share some of your concern about whether Bobby still has the fire to be the same coach he was in 2010-11.  But the success of his offenses so far with limited talent on hand seem to show he's got a little left in the tank.  And when the options being mentioned are Sun Belt coaches and, God forbid, Gus fucking Malzahn, Bobby looks like the love child of Bear Bryant and Nick Saban by comparison.

[TC]

While I agree that Petrino makes the most sense as the interim, I do NOT want him long term. For good reason, everybody is blaming the defense for Saturday, but let's not forget the offense put up THREE points in the second half.
Also, his last 4 years as a head coach, he has a 20-23 overall record and is 14-15 in conference games during that time. Grandpa Petrino is not the same BMFP that roamed the sidelines from 2008-2011.

2nd year QB and a brand new receiver group, and we're averaging 500 yards per game.
And save a bullshit holding call on Blake and a fumble on the 5 we gifted away an easy 14 -17 points in the 2nd half.

Give Petrino the keys and GTFO of the way.

[mde114]

If $3 million is an issue for Razorback athletics, they've got a bigger issue than Sam Pittman.

[Lurk]

While I agree that Petrino makes the most sense as the interim, I do NOT want him long term. For good reason, everybody is blaming the defense for Saturday, but let's not forget the offense put up THREE points in the second half.
Also, his last 4 years as a head coach, he has a 20-23 overall record and is 14-15 in conference games during that time. Grandpa Petrino is not the same BMFP that roamed the sidelines from 2008-2011.

He is, by far, the best that we can get. Period.

[Usafhawg]

Counterpoints:

Turnovers played a key role in the lack of points in the second half of our last two games.  The plays called were still effective in moving the ball.

The offense should get a little grace due to the stress of knowing they have to score every single drive for the team to have a chance, or at least for knowing that if at any point they fall behind by more than one score the game is likely over.  It's hard to play with the weight of an entire team and a 300 pound coach's future on your back.

You are cherry picking a bit.  Why not stop at three years given the gap in service?  Or extend it to 5-6 years?  For instance, if you expand to six you find that he had two conference co-championships in that time frame, along with a Heisman trophy winner.  Or if you stop at three years you leave out his one truly horrible season, one that was strongly affected by an NCAA and FBI investigation into the Louisville athletic program which was not looking into Petrino or football at all but caused the firing of the AD who hired Bobby twice. 

I share some of your concern about whether Bobby still has the fire to be the same coach he was in 2010-11.  But the success of his offenses so far with limited talent on hand seem to show he's got a little left in the tank.  And when the options being mentioned are Sun Belt coaches and, God forbid, Gus fucking Malzahn, Bobby looks like the love child of Bear Bryant and Nick Saban by comparison.

Counter - counterpoints

Turnovers played a key role in the lack of points in the second half of our last two games.  The plays called were still effective in moving the ball.

According to the WooPig, turnovers are due to a lack of discipline from coaching. The old Petrino wouldn't have allowed turnovers. Grandpa Petrino allows turnovers

The offense should get a little grace due to the stress of knowing they have to score every single drive for the team to have a chance, or at least for knowing that if at any point they fall behind by more than one score the game is likely over.  It's hard to play with the weight of an entire team and a 300 pound coach's future on your back.

Every team plays with the coach's future on their back. While I agree scoring 35 against an SEC opponent should be enough for a win, scoring 3 in a half against a Power 5 school is very lacking. You can blame whatever you  want, but at the end of the day, Petrino is responsible for scoring 3 points in a half against Memphis.

You are cherry picking a bit.  Why not stop at three years given the gap in service?  Or extend it to 5-6 years?  For instance, if you expand to six you find that he had two conference co-championships in that time frame, along with a Heisman trophy winner.  Or if you stop at three years you leave out his one truly horrible season, one that was strongly affected by an NCAA and FBI investigation into the Louisville athletic program which was not looking into Petrino or football at all but caused the firing of the AD who hired Bobby twice.

Why not use his last year? He was 5-6 overall and 3-5 in the Missouri Valley Football Conference. I didn't go back further because I didn't believe that was Grandpa Petrino coaching back then. That was BMFP.

[Texzilla]

So barring some horrific trick by God to have ND lose to us Saturday, what's everyone's bet on when he gets whacked.

Game will be over around 2-230.

I am going with Sunday, 8 am.

[Feral]

So barring some horrific trick by God to have ND lose to us Saturday, what's everyone's bet on when he gets whacked.

Game will be over around 2-230.

I am going with Sunday, 8 am.

The real question is when does Yurachek get booted. He's got to go first.

Unless they fire both simultaneously, which I'm here for. 

[SwahiliSteve]

The real question is when does Yurachek get booted. He's got to go first.

Unless they fire both simultaneously, which I'm here for. 

this. We need someone better suited in the AD position and it's not fucking Houston Nutt either however much he may be advertising he's available

[animal]

Counterpoint to the Counterpoint to the Counterpoint.

Grandpa Petrino maybe doesn't have the say so to jerk a kid out of a game and certainly cannot get into a player's feels like he would have back in the day. It's a different world now.

#76 kept getting wrecked mostly on run blocking. I didn't notice it during the game but that explains why a lot of our mesh shit looked off...it's because he was getting his ass blasted and the mesh never had time to setup properly. Also the center and #55 were getting worked pretty good as well. 


I too share the sentiments that Petrino probably doesn't "have it" and it might even end badly again if he were to be installed as head coach. On the other hand I feel like if he wants it then you got to let him take over sooner rather than later and just see how it goes...our recruiting is apparently already tanking and if NIL is something they care about then nothing says tanking like empty seats and people pulling out because the program is hammered shit. I don't think Petrino as head coach is going to necessarily get people that excited. We have to remember the bulk of the fan base is semi retarded yokels who still fawn over the days of Houston Nutt. 

We're still going to be terrible on defense and will probably continue to be plagued with some iffy inconsistency on offense. Petrino's last teams at Louisville were much the same way btw. All that being said aside from a Malzahn who I've never really cared for or Petrino I'm not sure we're going to get a "name" that's going to get people excited enough to dial back into the weekly shit show.

[The Whyte Boar]

I'll say it again, Petrino will be cheap as well.  Hire Petrino and you don't have to pay buyouts for the offensive staff.  There is your three million difference between firing Sam next Sunday and waiting for him to get below .500.  Then Petrino will probably take the job for what Sam is making now or even less.