Sam Pittman Tread of Stupidity, Despair, Frustration

[vegashog]

Counterpoint to the Counterpoint to the Counterpoint.

Grandpa Petrino maybe doesn't have the say so to jerk a kid out of a game and certainly cannot get into a player's feels like he would have back in the day. It's a different world now.

#76 kept getting wrecked mostly on run blocking. I didn't notice it during the game but that explains why a lot of our mesh shit looked off...it's because he was getting his ass blasted and the mesh never had time to setup properly. Also the center and #55 were getting worked pretty good as well.


I too share the sentiments that Petrino probably doesn't "have it" and it might even end badly again if he were to be installed as head coach. On the other hand I feel like if he wants it then you got to let him take over sooner rather than later and just see how it goes...our recruiting is apparently already tanking and if NIL is something they care about then nothing says tanking like empty seats and people pulling out because the program is hammered shit. I don't think Petrino as head coach is going to necessarily get people that excited. We have to remember the bulk of the fan base is semi retarded yokels who still fawn over the days of Houston Nutt.

We're still going to be terrible on defense and will probably continue to be plagued with some iffy inconsistency on offense. Petrino's last teams at Louisville were much the same way btw. All that being said aside from a Malzahn who I've never really cared for or Petrino I'm not sure we're going to get a "name" that's going to get people excited enough to dial back into the weekly shit show.

i agree. for an interim, he's probably the answer. you just cannot ignore the way it ended for him at louisville 2.0 and missouri st. it got ugly and the teams quit.

and the fact he hasn't shown he can go outside his comfort zone of familiar retreads and family member when hiring a staff. to get the gig next season, he'd have to do a hell of a lot of convincing to the folks that matter that he's changed.

[CardHog]

If $3 million is an issue for Razorback athletics, they've got a bigger issue than Sam Pittman.

No kidding.  A&M is still paying Jimbo $7 million per year until 2031 while also paying the current coach $7 million. 

[The Whyte Boar]

Petrino makes sense because I don't think HY even WANTS to hire the next HC.  I think he is gone on his own at the end of the year.  I think there is a pretty good chance that the plan was to let Sam finish out and let the new AD make his hire next year.  Now, I think it is either Petrino as interim or face a booster coup that brings in Lashlee or Malzahn.

I'm lukewarm on Lashlee and don't want Malzahn.  I'd take Petrino over Malzahn and probably over Lashlee.  All three would be an improvement.

[FNG]

Counter - counterpoints According to the WooPig, turnovers are due to a lack of discipline from coaching. The old Petrino wouldn't have allowed turnovers. Grandpa Petrino allows turnovers
Every team plays with the coach's future on their back. While I agree scoring 35 against an SEC opponent should be enough for a win, scoring 3 in a half against a Power 5 school is very lacking. You can blame whatever you  want, but at the end of the day, Petrino is responsible for scoring 3 points in a half against Memphis.
Why not use his last year? He was 5-6 overall and 3-5 in the Missouri Valley Football Conference. I didn't go back further because I didn't believe that was Grandpa Petrino coaching back then. That was BMFP.

Counter counter counterpoint:

Grandpa Petrino is a construct that is yet unproven and, to date, there is no evidence to support it.

Bobby Petrino has a specific role as Offensive Coordinator/QB coach and he has excelled in that role. He is still just as much a maniacal stickler for perfection in every practice rep (according to players and what little video footage is allowed during practice) from every offensive player now as he was in 2011. His offense is efficient, effective and well-disciplined but is just as susceptible to mental errors by players as any other football team in America.

Were he to assume responsibility for the entire team, there is no reason to believe that he would accept anything less than perfection from the rest of his players and coaching staff.

If Grandpa Petrino does exist the proof will be in his failure to seek the HC position.

[vegashog]

he can demand all the shit he wants but the players can just fucking leave.

what current sec coach rawdogs his players on the sidelines like petrino used to? kirby gets a little animated but you don't see kiffin, heupel, or even drinkwitz getting in his players faces and they've been doing pretty damn good getting effort out of them. that hard ass shit not working got saban to realize it was time to go.

[Texzilla]

The season is lost.  Petrino as interim and no more.  Yuri is either fired or bails.  Let new non Nutt AD hire the right young coach, who is hungry for opportunity. Don't care if they are successful and leave for Alabama down the road.  The days of forever coaches is over.  If Pittman stays there will be near 100 % departures of seniors and portals just like every year.  So any sticking around for new coach is a plus.

In back of my mind if there is a hint of improvement in a loss they might not pull the pin.  Never play defense with cancer, in your body or your organization

[buff2.0]

https://x.com/magicwhiptx/status/1969953455859995004

[bigpig]

https://x.com/magicwhiptx/status/1969953455859995004

I cannot spare this man; he fights.

[RPL]

Seems like the place to ask who is next?(Don't say stupid shit like Gruden or Gus).Go get a young hungry coach.  My list in no particular order:
USF:  Alex Golesh
UTSA:  Jeff Traylor
Tulane:  Jon Sumrall
Texas State:  GJ Kinne
Memphis:  Ryan Silverfield
SMU:  Rhett Laslee

Sumrall did a fine job with Mississippi. 

[flash23]

Sumrall's OC is Joe Craddock.

[animal]

Sumrall's OC is Joe Craddock.

Ok that settles it...permanent disqualification. 

[flash23]

Ok that settles it...permanent disqualification.

I didn't know it until I looked the guy up. I'm surprised he was able to get that Chad stank off of him.

[obijuana]

In Bobby, we trust. No need to look any further. He wants to be here. He never wanted to leave. Let bygones be bygones. Move forward. Players are more likely to follow the money than to fall in love with a coach these days.

And don't fire Yuri. He's done well with the other programs. Hire a permanent AD for football.

[Sus-Scrofa]

In Bobby, we trust. No need to look any further. He wants to be here. He never wanted to leave. Let bygones be bygones. Move forward. Players are more likely to follow the money than to fall in love with a coach these days.

And don't fire Yuri. He's done well with the other programs. Hire a permanent AD for football.

Agree on Bobby.   We all get it.  It could backfire, the BMFP may have done rowdied on down.  But it's our only option to keep the fans in and avoid a complete from dirt restart again.

Worth the gamble.  Tell him he can take the lead for the rest of the season on his current offensive coordinator salary.  If it works, we'll work out the contract and deal this summer.

But you have to fire Hunter.  He's dug a hole he can't crawl out of.

[Feral]

And don't fire Yuri. He's done well with the other programs. Hire a permanent AD for football.

Asinine.

The Cal hire was 100% on Tyson.

Yurachek shit the bed with women's basketball.

He didn't hire DVH or Deifel.

He set our NIL program back a decade.

He needs to be gone yesterday.

[Borenutz]

Asinine.

The Cal hire was 100% on Tyson.

Yurachek shit the bed with women's basketball.

He didn't hire DVH or Deifel.

He set our NIL program back a decade.

He needs to be gone yesterday.

Idk. If you hire Petrino, for the rest of this year or beyond, what does Hunter really have to do that matters much other than manage? No body cares about WCBB or any of the others if he hires a dud. It's minimal repercussions.

We'd theoretically be set in all the big 3 for a few years. You can then take a little time to find and/or groom a real AD. we need a real AD, but we don't need to kneejerk hire one. Hunter is basically a pawn.

Just don't do anything stupid with Petrino and hamstring yourself to him like he did with Pitt. Of course, you can probably give Petrino a pseudo interview for the rest of this year, too, and see if a "Cal" type opportunity comes up or if he turns it around. Either way, big money is going to have their say with anyone new.

I was as pissed as everyone about Hunters  comments, but they were true.  Truth hurts. Regardless, they probably shouldn't have been said in public like that. Doesn't send a good message to the team or organization.

[DirkPiggler]

Idk. If you hire Petrino, for the rest of this year or beyond, what does Hunter really have to do that matters much other than manage? No body cares about WCBB or any of the others if he hires a dud. It's minimal repercussions.

We'd theoretically be set in all the big 3 for a few years. You can then take a little time to find and/or groom a real AD. we need a real AD, but we don't need to kneejerk hire one. Hunter is basically a pawn.

Just don't do anything stupid with Petrino and hamstring yourself to him like he did with Pitt. Of course, you can probably give Petrino a pseudo interview for the rest of this year, too, and see if a "Cal" type opportunity comes up or if he turns it around. Either way, big money is going to have their say with anyone new.

I was as pissed as everyone about Hunters  comments, but they were true.  Truth hurts. Regardless, they probably shouldn't have been said in public like that. Doesn't send a good message to the team or organization.

Honestly Petrino is probably the only hire I would trust Yurachek to make.  If we aren't going to change ADs right now, bringing in Bobby on a below market deal with a minimal buyout would be the play.

[jdcatty]

he can demand all the shit he wants but the players can just fucking leave.

what current sec coach rawdogs his players on the sidelines like petrino used to? kirby gets a little animated but you don't see kiffin, heupel, or even drinkwitz getting in his players faces and they've been doing pretty damn good getting effort out of them. that hard ass shit not working got saban to realize it was time to go.

This

[Guardrail]

Honestly Petrino is probably the only hire I would trust Yurachek to make.  If we aren't going to change ADs right now, bringing in Bobby on a below market deal with a minimal buyout would be the play.

Hiring Bobby certainly wouldn't bring worse results.

[The Whyte Boar]

We can't hire Petrino.  We might have upwards of 30 something players hit the portal every year and max out at six or seven wins.  Oh wait...