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Started by Show-Me Hog, Apr 05, 2023, 04:55 PM

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animal

Bowls are going to have to somehow shit out a lot more money as an incentive for players to want to play. Otherwise we are going to see some opt-outs like never before. We aren't playing for free catfish and a t-shirts now...guys have million+ deals and are literally free agents every season. No reason to put yourself at risk so some asshole can eat Cheetos on the couch watching you rip up your knee in a meaningless late December bowl game. It sucks but when it became a big business and was treated as such...hard to blame the players for wanting to maximize their earnings potential.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BleedinRed

Quote from: animal on Dec 08, 2025, 12:48 PMBowls are going to have to somehow shit out a lot more money as an incentive for players to want to play. Otherwise we are going to see some opt-outs like never before. We aren't playing for free catfish and a t-shirts now...guys have million+ deals and are literally free agents every season. No reason to put yourself at risk so some asshole can eat Cheetos on the couch watching you rip up your knee in a meaningless late December bowl game. It sucks but when it became a big business and was treated as such...hard to blame the players for wanting to maximize their earnings potential.

A teams best 3 or 4 players, maybe.  The vast majority of players have nothing waiting on them if they opt out.  Why wouldn't they want to play in a bowl?

If the coach tells the team they are playing in a bowl, the team is playing in the bowl.   The players may not want to but they will comply.  Problem is, they are the boss now.  Which is a major issue.

animal

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 08, 2025, 01:27 PMA teams best 3 or 4 players, maybe.  The vast majority of players have nothing waiting on them if they opt out.  Why wouldn't they want to play in a bowl?

If the coach tells the team they are playing in a bowl, the team is playing in the bowl.  The players may not want to but they will comply.  Problem is, they are the boss now.  Which is a major issue.

Ok lets look at it like this because MATH..what's a realistic rotation SEC player worth? An SEC team like NFL teams is probably mostly playing about 45 to 50 guys. Those are going to ideally be the primary NIL money guys. No doubt we're paying plenty more just for the off chance they stay and develop. 

If it's 55,000 to $80,000 maybe at minimum. So sure out of that 12 million or whatever the number is we're probably paying 4 or 5 of them really good money and the remainder of the team is getting sub 300k figures 

It's still good enough money to not want to piss away next season's potential earnings over a bowl game. 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Barton Fink

Do away with bowls and allow all teams to play a late spring opponent. We're already seeing Spring games go away as well.

Let the portal finish. Establish your team. Play a spring opponent with the roster you expect the next season. It would drum up more attendance and money than a bowl game.

piglosopher

Maybe for some players opting out of bowls, they just want a longer break and they don't really need whatever belk goodie bag for playing.

BleedinRed

Quote from: animal on Dec 08, 2025, 01:38 PMOk lets look at it like this because MATH..what's a realistic rotation SEC player worth? An SEC team like NFL teams is probably mostly playing about 45 to 50 guys. Those are going to ideally be the primary NIL money guys. No doubt we're paying plenty more just for the off chance they stay and develop.

If it's 55,000 to $80,000 maybe at minimum. So sure out of that 12 million or whatever the number is we're probably paying 4 or 5 of them really good money and the remainder of the team is getting sub 300k figures

It's still good enough money to not want to piss away next season's potential earnings over a bowl game.


The vast majority of any team isn't turning pro so what are 95-99% of the players on a team pissing away?  

They get paid regardless of if they play in the bowl or not (which honestly is part of the problem).  

There is zero reason that Kansas State, Iowa State and Notre Dame should have opted out of their bowls.  All that happened was the once again the adults allowed the inmates to run the asylum.  I would be willing to bet that 95% of the players had no issues playing in the bowl game if told to do so.

All that need to happen is the schools need to have a clause that says "If you want 100% of your NIL then you will play in ALL games during the season, including the bowl game."

The Whyte Boar

A lot of these guys aren't even planning on coming back to the school the next semester whether they portal or not.

BleedinRed

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 08, 2025, 01:53 PMA lot of these guys aren't even planning on coming back to the school the next semester whether they portal or not.

Maybe I'm misreading what you wrote (which is almost a certainty) but it appears that you said every team has almost 90%+ turnover year-to-year?  That ins't close to true is it?

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 08, 2025, 02:06 PMMaybe I'm misreading what you wrote (which is almost a certainty) but it appears that you said every team has almost 90%+ turnover year-to-year?  That ins't close to true is it?

How on earth would you think that is even close to what I said?  Seriously what is going on in your brain?

HOGSRUNWILD

Can we replace most of the bowls with a bikini flag football game between the (female) cheerleaders and pom squads from the respective schools instead?  Now THAT is something I would pay good money to watch.  The funds raised could go to funding the NIL for each school for the coming season. 

Hell, make it tackle football.  The possibility of seeing some gal get TRUCKED and a tit pop out would probably drive 30% more viewership. 

BleedinRed

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Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Dec 08, 2025, 02:32 PMHow on earth would you think that is even close to what I said?  Seriously what is going on in your brain?

"A lot of these guys aren't even planning on coming back to the school the next semester whether they portal or not."

Animal was talking about the 40-50 man roster that sees the field and I was talking about the entire team in general. 

Who are you talking about?

HogOfWar

Quote from: HOGSRUNWILD on Dec 08, 2025, 02:44 PMCan we replace most of the bowls with a bikini flag football game between the (female) cheerleaders and pom squads from the respective schools instead?  Now THAT is something I would pay good money to watch.  The funds raised could go to funding the NIL for each school for the coming season. 

Hell, make it tackle football.  The possibility of seeing some gal get TRUCKED and a tit pop out would probably drive 30% more viewership. 

Well there was the LFL but that went extinct in 2019. It's replacement, X League, which the season happens to start next April, looks like they have more clothing.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

HOGSRUNWILD

Quote from: HogOfWar on Dec 08, 2025, 03:13 PMWell there was the LFL but that went extinct in 2019. It's replacement, X League, which the season happens to start next April, looks like they have more clothing.

The LFL was fucking awesome.  I mean, aside from some amazing bodies, those gals played some football.  They put some hit on some some bishes when given the chance.  Putting more clothes on them won't help their numbers though.  They need to get a finger on the pulse of the country and reconsider...

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 08, 2025, 02:58 PM"A lot of these guys aren't even planning on coming back to the school the next semester whether they portal or not."

Animal was talking about the 40-50 man roster that sees the field and I was talking about the entire team in general. 

Who are you talking about?

Once again, where would any of that give you the idea I said shat you then said that I said? 

BleedinRed

A lot must mean a few.  You win.  

animal

Quote from: BleedinRed on Dec 08, 2025, 01:50 PMThe vast majority of any team isn't turning pro so what are 95-99% of the players on a team pissing away? 

They get paid regardless of if they play in the bowl or not (which honestly is part of the problem). 

There is zero reason that Kansas State, Iowa State and Notre Dame should have opted out of their bowls.  All that happened was the once again the adults allowed the inmates to run the asylum.  I would be willing to bet that 95% of the players had no issues playing in the bowl game if told to do so.

All that need to happen is the schools need to have a clause that says "If you want 100% of your NIL then you will play in ALL games during the season, including the bowl game."
SMOKE SIGNALS

THEY ARE MAKING MORE THAN A LOT OF NORMAL PEOPLE MAKE IN COLLEGE THEY DON'T NEED TO GO "PRO". WHY WOULD YOU RISK A YEARS SALARY ON A SHITTY BOWL GAME?
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BleedinRed

Quote from: animal on Dec 08, 2025, 04:28 PMSMOKE SIGNALS

THEY ARE MAKING MORE THAN A LOT OF NORMAL PEOPLE MAKE IN COLLEGE THEY DON'T NEED TO GO "PRO". WHY WOULD YOU RISK A YEARS SALARY ON A SHITTY BOWL GAME?

I don't believe that is 99% of players.  

Regardless, tie NIL payments to all games.  Pretty simple way to keep bowls.  

Barton Fink

Do you still get paid if you have nasal polyps?

vegashog

if the coach doesn't have to coach a bowl game, then why put all this on the players?

you had a narcistic asshole that created a media circus for two weeks even though his team was going to the fucking playoffs, then ghosted them.