Razorback Football

Started by Silence Of The Hams, Mar 08, 2023, 03:32 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Lurk

Once we started power football late we looked okay. We have great backs, but running them down the line looking for the hole isn't working. Put D. Johnson at fullback and run a version of the I.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Lurk on Sep 11, 2023, 09:57 AMOnce we started power football late we looked okay. We have great backs, but running them down the line looking for the hole isn't working. Put D. Johnson at fullback and run a version of the I.

It did seem like we flipped a switch in the second half after that first failed possession. 

Kent State also seemed to know we weren't looking to run KJ.  As soon as that option became part of the playbook the rest of the run game opened up as well. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

jdcatty

KJ was definitely a little off compared to his usual accuracy.  And we had a drop or two.  But our backs seem reluctant to hit the line hard.  Hopefully that is just a holdover from the Briles era.  Green did a little better and had some success at it.  And of course KJ ran it well.  But we should not have to run KJ nearly as much as we did against an opponent like Kent State.  Too much chance of getting him hurt.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

Feral

Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 11, 2023, 10:07 AMKJ was definitely a little off compared to his usual accuracy.  And we had a drop or two.

Pittman was uncharacteristically critical of KJ and the passing game in his postgame, and plainly stated that we didn't pass the ball well at all. Our run game suffered because of it.

His short and mid-range accuracy was per usual, but his deep ball — which he's usually the most accurate with — was consistently off.

When we have to resort to the "run KJ to get his confidence up," it's usually not a good thing. We didn't have to do that last week against WCU.

Quote from: jdcatty on Sep 11, 2023, 10:07 AMBut our backs seem reluctant to hit the line hard.  Hopefully that is just a holdover from the Briles era.  Green did a little better and had some success at it.  And of course KJ ran it well.

Green seemed more downhill than the rest, especially when we were pulling linemen to block on the edge. His best run was one where we pulled Limmer and Latham and he hit a 23 yarder. It was well blocked but agreed hit the hole hard and without hesitancy.

Adam Ford said Rocket has a tendency to rush the hole and then bouncing outside if it's not there. Dubinion, and to a lesser extent Dominique, seemed to do that veny thing this weekend. Dubinion was quick to bounce outside and find the edge.

DirkPiggler

Turns out it was, indeed, bullshit.

You cannot view this attachment.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

vegashog

6pm kick against the corndogs. espn.

Feral

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 11, 2023, 12:12 PM6pm kick against the corndogs. espn.

Shit.

That's one you'd love to have at 11, Chuck.

Italian Porn

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 11, 2023, 12:12 PM6pm kick against the corndogs. espn.

Still disappointed with when this game was scheduled, we've never played them this early in the season.  Unless we get a break in the weather we've been having down here, its still going to be brutally hot at 6.


woodhog14

Quote from: Feral on Sep 11, 2023, 11:50 AMPittman was uncharacteristically critical of KJ and the passing game in his postgame, and plainly stated that we didn't pass the ball well at all. Our run game suffered because of it.

His short and mid-range accuracy was per usual, but his deep ball — which he's usually the most accurate with — was consistently off.

When we have to resort to the "run KJ to get his confidence up," it's usually not a good thing. We didn't have to do that last week against WCU.

Green seemed more downhill than the rest, especially when we were pulling linemen to block on the edge. His best run was one where we pulled Limmer and Latham and he hit a 23 yarder. It was well blocked but agreed hit the hole hard and without hesitancy.

Adam Ford said Rocket has a tendency to rush the hole and then bouncing outside if it's not there. Dubinion, and to a lesser extent Dominique, seemed to do that veny thing this weekend. Dubinion was quick to bounce outside and find the edge.
Still trying to figure out how KJ's "short and mid-range accuracy was off per usual" when he completed 68% of his passes last year and 73.4% so far this year. This idea that KJ is not very good at mid-range passing, is a myth. You don't throw for the percentage he does to have bad mid-range passing accuracy. Does he miss a few every now and then, yes. What quarterback doesn't? KJ also had 3 "mid-range passes" flat out dropped on Saturday. What a joke.

Pig Benis

Pittman just did his Monday PC. McGlothern is expected to play this week. He hurt the toe last Thursday.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

piglosopher

Would you guys believe me if I told you that KJ's completion percentage is better than ones held by Ryan Mallett (rip), Tyler Wilson, and Brandon Allen?

Bonus points if you can guess who leads the school record.

vegashog

I believe franks hold the career percentage record.

piglosopher

Quote from: vegashog on Sep 11, 2023, 01:25 PMI believe franks hold the career percentage record.


Winnar

passed

Quote from: woodhog14 on Sep 11, 2023, 01:13 PMStill trying to figure out how KJ's "short and mid-range accuracy was off per usual" when he completed 68% of his passes last year and 73.4% so far this year. This idea that KJ is not very good at mid-range passing, is a myth. You don't throw for the percentage he does to have bad mid-range passing accuracy. Does he miss a few every now and then, yes. What quarterback doesn't? KJ also had 3 "mid-range passes" flat out dropped on Saturday. What a joke.

His touch on the mid-range passes has always been off... No one is saying he's bad, at all!  However, his mid-range touch hasn't been right.  Where in previous seasons if he finessed it a bit more or could lead the receiver a bit more, more of them would have been catches.  I saw a marked improvement during the season opener, which screamed of Enos to me.  His deep ball has always been his strength when it comes to the pass... however, he didn't seem to have it there against Kent State.  Maybe an off day, or the WR wasn't right where they should have been for those timed throws.

The 3 to Storey that got dropped were great passes that should have been caught.  Maybe 1 was slightly behind Storey?  I'd have to go rewatch.  But I recall them all being good balls that should have been caught... and each was an intermediate.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: passed on Sep 11, 2023, 02:19 PMHis touch on the mid-range passes has always been off... No one is saying he's bad, at all!  However, his mid-range touch hasn't been right.  Where in previous seasons if he finessed it a bit more or could lead the receiver a bit more, more of them would have been catches.  I saw a marked improvement during the season opener, which screamed of Enos to me.  His deep ball has always been his strength when it comes to the pass... however, he didn't seem to have it there against Kent State.  Maybe an off day, or the WR wasn't right where they should have been for those timed throws.

The 3 to Storey that got dropped were great passes that should have been caught.  Maybe 1 was slightly behind Storey?  I'd have to go rewatch.  But I recall them all being good balls that should have been caught... and each was an intermediate.

KJ did seem to be throwing the ball low most of the day Saturday.  That was the main accuracy issue I saw.  Most were still catchable. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

BleedinRed

If you want to know what type of ball KJ is about to throw, just watch his feet.  He has had an issue with footwork throughout his career.  He actaully looked really good in game one.

Feral

#1236
Quote from: woodhog14 on Sep 11, 2023, 01:13 PMStill trying to figure out how KJ's "short and mid-range accuracy was off per usual" when he completed 68% of his passes last year and 73.4% so far this year. This idea that KJ is not very good at mid-range passing, is a myth. You don't throw for the percentage he does to have bad mid-range passing accuracy. Does he miss a few every now and then, yes. What quarterback doesn't? KJ also had 3 "mid-range passes" flat out dropped on Saturday. What a joke.

You added the word "off" to the sentence about short/medium passes, which totally misrepresents my point and not what I said...

Quote from: Feral on Sep 11, 2023, 11:50 AMHis short and mid-range accuracy was per usual, but his deep ball — which he's usually the most accurate with — was consistently off.

As such, I meant that he was his usual self Saturday in terms of accuracy on short and medium passes, but the deep ball was what was off.

animal

.

I do feel his accuracy has improved...a good case to be made on some slants he threw against Western Carolina and also in this Kent State game tossed some lasers into TeSlaa that I don't know that he would have made last season.

With that said I think he still holds onto the ball a bit long sometimes and takes sacks needlessly. Against better competition which from here on out we'll basically be every week...we are going to lose games over some of this shit.

I think it's fairly clear we don't have a real starting caliber 3rd WR. Wilson may round into that but we're lacking something here. Mbake might have been that guy. Stephens has been a no-show. Dozier is probably a year away. Sategna isn't getting any run at WR...he's strictly a return guy for some reason. Broden was penciled in to help but hasn't really broken into the rotation as of yet.


"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

egregious

I forget the game I saw it on, so maybe a moron said it, but the metric now is yards per attempt or yards per completion, to measure how the offense is pushing it down the field.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

Natty_Ice

#1239
Quote from: red death on Sep 10, 2023, 11:14 PMAlso, what is going on with our whole stadium music experience?

David Allen Coe?


Tell me they didn't.  Yeah good choice, dumshtts.  This should really help with recruiting!  Maybe next week they can play one of his classic 80's anthems "N****r F*cker" or "Some N****rs Never Die".  just wow    ::)

You cannot view this attachment.
Things of that nature