Razorback Football

Started by Silence Of The Hams, Mar 08, 2023, 03:32 PM

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hit_that_line

Stakes are too high to bring back a coach that goes 4-8 in year 4.

Son of Spam

We should just say screw it and start on developing players for next year including at QB. This year is already a bust. So, why not?
Well, shit...

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 22, 2023, 06:48 PMWe should just say screw it and start on developing players for next year including at QB. This year is already a bust. So, why not?

I doubt they will do that right away.  They will want to give Guiton a fair shake, and you probably don't want a new QB making his first start in the Swamp.  If (when) we lose that one, I'd play both Criswell and Singleton to see what they have. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

egregious

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Oct 22, 2023, 06:53 PMI doubt they will do that right away.  They will want to give Guiton a fair shake, and you probably don't want a new QB making his first start in the Swamp.  If (when) we lose that one, I'd play both Criswell and Singleton to see what they have. 

will be an ignominious end for a pre-season first team all SEC selection

Boy that just didn't work out.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

DirkPiggler

Quote from: egregious on Oct 22, 2023, 07:55 PMwill be an ignominious end for a pre-season first team all SEC selection

Boy that just didn't work out.

Joe Ferguson is our best pro QB by a mile.  He didn't start his last game here, because we were playing for the future.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.


Usafhawg

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 22, 2023, 03:47 PMWith that said, I'll concede that I don't know anything. 

The Hogs have been in the SEC for 35+ years.

You proved your own point.

Pig Benis

Quote from: Son of Spam on Oct 22, 2023, 06:48 PMWe should just say screw it and start on developing players for next year including at QB. This year is already a bust. So, why not?

Why do that to Criswell and ruin him?
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

animal

Quote from: Pig Benis on Oct 22, 2023, 08:29 PMWhy do that to Criswell and ruin him?
I wouldn't expect him to come out and throw darts all over the field but on the other hand I do figure if he's better at short and intermediate throws and makes quicker decisions on where to go with the ball...it might just work. I don't think there are any fucks to give anymore from KJ.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Pig Benis

Quote from: animal on Oct 22, 2023, 08:36 PMI wouldn't expect him to come out and throw darts all over the field but on the other hand I do figure if he's better at short and intermediate throws and makes quicker decisions on where to go with the ball...it might just work. I don't think there are any fucks to give anymore from KJ.

I don't disagree. I'm just saying if we think Criswell is the future then maybe don't put him out there to die behind this OL.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Texzilla

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Quote from: Pumpkin Escobar on Oct 22, 2023, 03:25 PMKind of hard to install anything radically new during the season, even with a bye week. I guess he'll call the slightly less retarded parts of Enos' playbook.

We have a good punter. We can punt on first down and do better than Enos.

I'm would hope the state police were sent to pick up Enos and deliver him to his choice of the Oklahoma or Missoura border.  Get the fuck out of Arkansas shitbag.

BleedinRed

Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 22, 2023, 08:24 PMYou proved your own point.
Which was?m

I suppose the "+"?

33 years. 

billyhog

So Razorback football is, once again, a dumpster fire.  I just hope we're not following in Nebraska's footprint. The decisions that have been made, starting with firing Petrino until today, have likely killed this program.  Apathy is a bitch.

DrMongoose

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 22, 2023, 12:20 PMJesus. How dumb are you? It's a free pass year NOW that it's a disaster. It wasn't a free pass year before the season began. But it's a completely fucked up year, so you just have to forget it and move on, that's why it's called a free pass.

Sam's going to get another year because he has chits on his side of the ledger that Chad had zero of, and Bielema didn't have all of them.

1) program resurrector after the death penalty of Chad

2) long track record of being "the best in the business" at an important fundamental aspect of football, even if we're a disaster in that aspect this year

3) goodwill built up from a very successful year, and a moderately successful year. That doesn't dissipate with administration as quickly as it does with fans

4) a good old boy who loves the Razorbacks and grew up just down the road and wanted the job

5) probably on the whole a good guy without Petrino-like personality conflicts

2024, these are your Sam Pittman-led Arkansas Razorbacks



1) Judas, this program has been resurrected? A pet rock could outcoach Morris (who amazingly did get talent on campus).
2) but the online has sucked for the last 2 seasons, ok
3) whatever - what is his overall record? The last 2 seasons? Who
4) who gives a shit? Nutt did too
5) again, who gives a shit, the sec is big boy cut throat football.

Sure, Sam can be a great person and maybe he is, but it has nothing to do with the fact he is not good at his current job. Both things can be true but too many people can not separate the two. Did anyone really care Petrino was an ass? No, because he won games which is what a head coach is paid to do.

Shit canning Enos still doesn't improve the offensive line, help make in game decisions, or save the locker room.

It just delays the inevitable and puts polish on a turd.

Other than that, how was the play mrs. Lincoln?


Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Cornhogio

I think I'd tell KJ that the starting QB position is back in play, and he needs to earn it.  Show him the film, what he did wrong, and summarize by saying "we need to make sure we have the best option running the team right now.  If that's you, so be it, but right now, we need to make sure."

If he's a leader, he'll understand; if not, moving on...
Never squat with your spurs on!

Show-Me Hog

If we scoop and score and win but Saturday's game is otherwise the same, is Enos still fired?

"Arkansas offensive coordinator fired due to penalty on Mississippi State offense."

DirkPiggler

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 22, 2023, 09:42 PMWhich was?m

I suppose the "+"?

33 years. 

Getting closer, but still not there yet.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 22, 2023, 12:20 PMJesus. How dumb are you? It's a free pass year NOW that it's a disaster. It wasn't a free pass year before the season began. But it's a completely fucked up year, so you just have to forget it and move on, that's why it's called a free pass.

Sam's going to get another year because he has chits on his side of the ledger that Chad had zero of, and Bielema didn't have all of them.

1) program resurrector after the death penalty of Chad

2) long track record of being "the best in the business" at an important fundamental aspect of football, even if we're a disaster in that aspect this year

3) goodwill built up from a very successful year, and a moderately successful year. That doesn't dissipate with administration as quickly as it does with fans

4) a good old boy who loves the Razorbacks and grew up just down the road and wanted the job

5) probably on the whole a good guy without Petrino-like personality conflicts

2024, these are your Sam Pittman-led Arkansas Razorbacks



Mike Anderson had all the positives you listed and then some.

1. Pelphrey = Chad.
2. Track record of running a system that won us our only national title.
3. Goodwill from back-to-back NCAA appearances.
4. Great guy who loved Arkansas basketball and spent the majority of his professional career here in some capacity.
5. No personality problems whatsoever other than maybe the lack of a killer instinct.

Mike didn't have a plan to get basketball back on track after one down year.  If Sam doesn't have a credible plan to fix the problems evidenced by not one, but two consecutive seasons of underachieving relative to talent and schedule, he'll be shown the door as well.

We had people telling us Chad Morris was going to get one more year right up until the Sunday after the WKU game.  Many if not most said Bert would get another year...after all, it was his free pass year, right?  And no one really saw an Anderson firing coming until it happened. 

Hunter probably realizes by now that any coach that goes 0-8 in SEC here has to be fired immediately, whether it's his first year or his tenth.  Hindsight tells us we should have canned Bielema after 2013.  Common sense tells us Morris should have gone after the Colorado State game his first year, and definitely by the end of that season.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

The Whyte Boar

Listening to Chuck Barrett whine about how many coaches Arkansas hires and fires.  Bullshit, we haven't hired and fired any more coaches than anyone else in the SEC not named Bama and Georgia.

We're on our third coach in the last decade.  Just off the top of my head so is Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, and MSU.  Unlike those places, Arkansas always has a bunch of people willing to make excuses about why we CAN'T do something instead of why we can. 

Trigger7672

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 23, 2023, 09:00 AMListening to Chuck Barrett whine about how many coaches Arkansas hires and fires.  Bullshit, we haven't hired and fired any more coaches than anyone else in the SEC not named Bama and Georgia.

We're on our third coach in the last decade.  Just off the top of my head so is Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, and MSU.  Unlike those places, Arkansas always has a bunch of people willing to make excuses about why we CAN'T do something instead of why we can. 

Heard him on my way to work today, "this keeps happening, maybe it's not the coaches fault." Like every coach we fired turned around and starting kicking ass somewhere else.