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The Whyte Boar

Now people want to talk "long term stability".  Tits is 62 or 63 years old.  He was about to retire when we hired him.  How much longer is he planning on coaching if he comes back?  A year, maybe two? 

Third_down_draw

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 16, 2023, 04:34 PMWho said this? In what forum?

https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/statement_from_houston_nutt_to_razorback_fans_219866/

It's times like these we have to join together with one heartbeat and appreciate what we have. 

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Third_down_draw on Nov 17, 2023, 08:49 AMhttps://arkansasrazorbacks.com/statement_from_houston_nutt_to_razorback_fans_219866/

It's times like these we have to join together with one heartbeat and appreciate what we have. 

Weird. Why are the articles at the link dated November 7, 2014?

animal

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 17, 2023, 08:39 AMNow people want to talk "long term stability".  Tits is 62 or 63 years old.  He was about to retire when we hired him.  How much longer is he planning on coaching if he comes back?  A year, maybe two? 
He's got like 16 million reasons to remain "energized" and "fully committed" to taking money.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Third_down_draw

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 17, 2023, 08:58 AMWeird. Why are the articles at the link dated November 7, 2014?

This is what happens when you don't answer the call

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: animal on Nov 17, 2023, 09:02 AMHe's got like 16 million reasons to remain "energized" and "fully committed" to taking money.

He is a dumb bastard then.  If I were his age and had as much money as he already has, you couldn't get me to the lake fast enough. Of course, he could be a complete piece of shit and simply plan on barely even showing up from here on out.

Hizog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 17, 2023, 09:08 AMOf course, he could be a complete piece of shit and simply plan on barely even showing up from here on out December 5th, 2021 til now.

To save you some time, that's when he hired Sexton. That's when Sam set his cruise control.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Hizog on Nov 17, 2023, 09:38 AMTo save you some time, that's when he hired Sexton. That's when Sam set his cruise control.

I think you're right. 

Show-Me Hog

The best case for Sam (because unless we lose to FIU I think he gets 2024, so might as well pull a Monty Python and look on the bright side of life):

Fixed the defense from 2022.

Lost 2 TEs including a good one early so line and passing game affected.

Enos was a mistake, corrected in mid-year, but will take new offensive direction next year.

Buyout too much, reduces next year.

One shitty thing among many is he has to play Hugh Freeze again next year, who CLEARLY is Pittman kryptonite.

SwahiliSteve

Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

piglosopher

There's some argumentative types on here (yeah imagine that), but from what I've been reading, I just want to say this and hang up.

I  have plenty of displeasure with the season and with the coaching job of Pittman. But the guy's not a piece of shit. It's the most boomer of takes to expect him to walk away from contractually obligated money because he "loves the helmet". No one else here would do any different.

It just isn't working now and it's time for a change, but let's call the real POS's as they are.

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 17, 2023, 12:58 PMThere's some argumentative types on here (yeah imagine that), but from what I've been reading, I just want to say this and hang up.

I  have plenty of displeasure with the season and with the coaching job of Pittman. But the guy's not a piece of shit. It's the most boomer of takes to expect him to walk away from contractually obligated money because he "loves the helmet". No one else here would do any different.

It just isn't working now and it's time for a change, but let's call the real POS's as they are.
I don't think he's a POS but I do think he's a fat slob who's not very focused and would rather be slinging back beers on his boat in hot springs than coaching or recruiting. I just think he's fucking complacent
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: piglosopher on Nov 17, 2023, 12:58 PMThere's some argumentative types on here (yeah imagine that), but from what I've been reading, I just want to say this and hang up.

I  have plenty of displeasure with the season and with the coaching job of Pittman. But the guy's not a piece of shit. It's the most boomer of takes to expect him to walk away from contractually obligated money because he "loves the helmet". No one else here would do any different.

It just isn't working now and it's time for a change, but let's call the real POS's as they are.

"They won't have to fire me.  I'll leave if it ain't working." 

Who said that?  Sam was damned near 60 years old when he said that.  That's old enough to know better than to say that kind if thing and no expect some ruffled feathers when you turn out to be about nothing but money. 

So, if he drags this shit out to the end, fuck that guy. 

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 17, 2023, 01:03 PMI don't think he's a POS but I do think he's a fat slob who's not very focused and would rather be slinging back beers on his boat in hot springs than coaching or recruiting. I just think he's fucking complacent

And somebody who does that while getting paid $16 million a year is a thief and a POS.

jdcatty

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 17, 2023, 01:03 PMI don't think he's a POS but I do think he's a fat slob who's not very focused and would rather be slinging back beers on his boat in hot springs than coaching or recruiting. I just think he's fucking complacent


There are plenty of people who feel the same way.  But I am not seeing or hearing stories that support the theory that he is lazy, etc.  Obviously, you can say the way the team plays is evidence of that, but I am not at all sure about that.  When Bielema was on the decline, there were plenty of stories in Fayetteville about him missing meetings with recruits, being passed out drunk on Dickson, etc.  Nothing like that about Pittman. 

Maybe he isn't lazy.  Maybe he just isn't very good at what he's doing.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

Usafhawg

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 17, 2023, 02:19 PMAnd somebody who does that while getting paid $16 million a year is a thief and a POS.
Who is making $16 million a year?

animal

Quote from: Usafhawg on Nov 17, 2023, 03:54 PMWho is making $16 million a year?
Pittman by this time next year.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

egregious

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 17, 2023, 11:20 AMThe best case for Sam (because unless we lose to FIU I think he gets 2024, so might as well pull a Monty Python and look on the bright side of life):

Fixed the defense from 2022.

Lost 2 TEs including a good one early so line and passing game affected.

Enos was a mistake, corrected in mid-year, but will take new offensive direction next year.

Buyout too much, reduces next year.

One shitty thing among many is he has to play Hugh Freeze again next year, who CLEARLY is Pittman kryptonite.

and make an offense that fits what Criswell can do or else just go with a kid if we have a 4 star and make it for him

Since if Sam stays it is make or break he should hire an OC to do what Criswell can do and then recruit to that system going forward.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Nov 17, 2023, 11:20 AMThe best case for Sam (because unless we lose to FIU I think he gets 2024, so might as well pull a Monty Python and look on the bright side of life):

Fixed the defense from 2022.

Lost 2 TEs including a good one early so line and passing game affected.

Enos was a mistake, corrected in mid-year, but will take new offensive direction next year.

Buyout too much, reduces next year.

One shitty thing among many is he has to play Hugh Freeze again next year, who CLEARLY is Pittman kryptonite.

His buyout will be lower but we will still be paying another $6mm salary, so it's not really saving any money on a lame duck. 


animal

I'd much rather be competing for coaches now than I had after next season. It's the law of averages if nothing else. Not many SEC openings this season means they'll likely be some wholesale changes next off-season with half the SEC EAST due to turnover after failing to make headway against Georgia/Tenn. That's without what reactions there may be to new schools coming into the conference. Drinkwitz could very possibly work his way into getting a bigger gig either this off-season or next and the only highly coveted job in the SEC is A&M at the moment.

A&M is in a spot where they could be looking to make another splash hire but it's also possible they make an under stated hire like the Traylor dude that doesn't move the needle but probably kicks the can down the road for the next 6 or 7 years while they eat the Jimbo contract. Traylor I'd wager would do as good or better than Jimbo.

Kentucky has been extremely patient with Stoops who has taken that program out of the gutter and moved it onto a narrow shoulder on a busy freeway. I've said this the last few off-seasons but at some point you may see him either drop his panties and get out or they end up pulling the plug on him if the fan base has gone stale. My guess is the Ky football is damn happy with their 6 or 7 wins each season.

So anyway yeah maybe we save ourselves a large buyout this off-season but will ultimately fuck ourselves if their gamble on Pittman fails. I can't possibly believe they think Pittman is their "guy"...you can do lot of quantum math on this subject and see that the mistakes were made very early with regard lack of loading up on lineman early on...we kept a lot of older Morris holdovers and didn't cycle those guys out of the program quick enough. It was more or less a "win now" mentality and we paid for it this season. Maybe he can fix it with more NIL money. I'm not confident. Do they bring in another OC that has head coaching experience? Does Sam need someone behind the scenes holding his hand? It sure seemed like he missed Odom this season.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it