The Elephant in the Room Part II

Started by animal, Sep 30, 2023, 03:38 PM

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vegashog

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 19, 2023, 12:14 PMIf we can't afford the buyout of a guy that we are the only team in American that would've hired and has had only modest success, that rests at the feet of the AD.  That's a tremendous mistake.
the ad can only spend the money the administration tells him he can.

acting like yurachek has carte blanch with the checkbook is silly.

hit_that_line

How in the fuck are we so broke? If only those pussy Walton heirs were into contact sports.

mde114

Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 19, 2023, 12:10 PMIt was the Chancellor, you know Hunter's boss, that made the final decision. Hunter tried but the Chancellor didn't want to have to pay for a buy out.

Oh bullshit. If Yurachek can't make the call on coach of his football team, maybe he should start looking at going to a school that respects his opinion.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: vegashog on Nov 19, 2023, 12:23 PMthe ad can only spend the money the administration tells him he can.

acting like yurachek has carte blanch with the checkbook is silly.

It's not silly to think the chief executive in a self-sustaining department should be able to control the budget of that department.  If he doesn't have that authority he should. And if his boss doesn't trust him with that authority then that person needs to put someone in the AD position that he does trust. 
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 19, 2023, 12:23 PMHow in the fuck are we so broke? If only those pussy Walton heirs were into contact sports.

We aren't.
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mde114

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 19, 2023, 12:27 PMIt's not silly to think the chief executive in a self-sustaining department should be able to control the budget of that department.  If he doesn't have that authority he should. And if his boss doesn't trust him with that authority then that person needs to put someone in the AD position that he does trust. 

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Lurk

Quote from: woodhog14 on Nov 19, 2023, 12:10 PMIt was the Chancellor, you know Hunter's boss, that made the final decision. Hunter tried but the Chancellor didn't want to have to pay for a buy out.
This sounds right. Sometimes we forget that it's still a university. Teevee money is making the tail wag the dog in a lot of cases, but not this one.
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DirkPiggler

Quote from: Lurk on Nov 19, 2023, 12:30 PMThis sounds right. Sometimes we forget that it's still a university. Teevee money is making the tail wag the dog in a lot of cases, but not this one.

Throughout our history, when the academic side gets involved in athletics it turns out badly.  The thing is, there is no benefit to the university from football being terrible.  A strong athletic department and great academics are not mutually exclusive.

Robinson seems like an impressive guy.  I hope he doesn't tarnish his name by trying to destroy athletics the way John White did. 
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vegashog

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 19, 2023, 12:27 PMIt's not silly to think the chief executive in a self-sustaining department should be able to control the budget of that department.  If he doesn't have that authority he should. And if his boss doesn't trust him with that authority then that person needs to put someone in the AD position that he does trust. 
bullshit. the athletic director at any school makes recommendations and it get approval or not.

whether it's the administration ,the bot, or whatever they call that entity, they have the final say on financials.

blaming yurachek personally for not having the cash to fire a coach is not living in the real world.

DrMongoose

what staff changes were promised in exchange for another year?
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

HogOfWar

Quote from: DrMongoose on Nov 19, 2023, 12:42 PMwhat staff changes were promised in exchange for another year?
Managers, I bet.
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DirkPiggler

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Quote from: vegashog on Nov 19, 2023, 12:38 PMbullshit. the athletic director at any school makes recommendations and it get approval or not.

whether it's the administration ,the bot, or whatever they call that entity, they have the final say on financials.

blaming yurachek personally for not having the cash to fire a coach is not living in the real world.

I disagree.  The academic side shouldn't be able to direct athletic funds any more than the Razorback Foundation should be deciding how the College of Engineering spends its budget.


The chancellor, BoT, etc should not dictate how any department head spends their operating budget, as long as those decisions meet these conditions :

1. Doesn't embarrass the university.  Losing does this, replacing, a failed coach does the opposite. 

2. Doesn't put the school in legal jeopardy. 

3.  Doesn't require more money from general funds to be added to that budget.

Obviously the chancellor and university president have final say so.  But they shouldn't be interfering in personnel matters unless one of those conditions are being breached.
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hit_that_line

If Scott fountain isn't fired straight into the sun, I'm done with this program.

DrMongoose

Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

mde114

Someone please ask him what are the "goals and expectations" of our program. I'd really like to know.

bigpig

Basically Pittman got a pass. Not a two year pass, ala Nutt, but this year is a pass. Pittman gets to try again with an OC hire, though he'll probably just keep what he has.

Will he fire the OL coaches? The ST coach? Probably he'll just make excuses like always.

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hit_that_line

This was year two of two year pass. We'll go 1-11 next year.

buff2.0

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 19, 2023, 12:49 PMIf Scott fountain isn't fired straight into the sun, I'm done with this program.

Don't forget Kennedy. Fire him into the sun as well.
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HogOfWar

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 19, 2023, 12:49 PMIf Scott fountain isn't fired straight into the sun, I'm done with this program.
Quote from: buff2.0 on Nov 19, 2023, 01:09 PMDon't forget Kennedy. Fire him into the sun as well.

I will gladly donate to the trebuchet fund.
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Barton Fink

I would be surprised if Fountain is let go.