The Elephant in the Room Part II

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DirkPiggler

Quote from: vegashog on Nov 20, 2023, 06:47 PMthe university doesn't have control of it.

the change is not just the money but how it's handled. arkansas's "official" nil collective is handled thru charities. they get the money and pay the players for appearances, etc.

most of the other schools in the conference collectives are true bagman operations. run by third party, for profit entities that direct the 'donations' where the givers want it to go.

what this probably means is the money given will go straight to the football team. the collective needs to be setup, more than likely being done so now. i think that's why pittman said he goofed up when talking about it at his presser.

This is the one morsel of good news in a 72 hour period of general shit.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Corn Pop

Quote from: BleedinRed on Nov 20, 2023, 06:04 PMWait, is HY supposed to listen to the GOB donors or is he supposed to have a set a balls?

I'm so confused.

I'm just telling you what I heard. It takes money to have balls in the football coach hiring business though. If the GOB donors won't get the checkbook out, what's an AD to do?
I really don't care, Margaret.

Texzilla

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 20, 2023, 11:44 AMI think Bielema is a better coach than Sam, and I hate that I think that.

Same thinking.  He had Ragnow.  I really liked Bert the first two seasons but then I think the realities of recruiting and his drinking just tore him up.  That last A&M game he looked like he'd been on a two week bender and then spent the winter inside a dead moose. 

I'm really pissed off right now.

jdcatty

Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 20, 2023, 05:34 PMWhat an asshole.

Basically saying, "Who are you going to get?"

I don't think there is anything "assholy" about those statements.  Enlighten me.  What am I missing?
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

piglosopher

Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 20, 2023, 08:42 PMI don't think there is anything "assholy" about those statements.  Enlighten me.  What am I missing?

"Be careful what you wish for" reminds me of Nutt's attitude that the University should feel "lucky" to have him.

HogOfWar

Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 20, 2023, 08:42 PMI don't think there is anything "assholy" about those statements.  Enlighten me.  What am I missing?

I interrupted it as "Be lucky for what you got," however, you could also interrupt it as, he is not changing his staff.

Either way, we are fucked.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

Texzilla

Quote from: vegashog on Nov 20, 2023, 06:47 PMthe university doesn't have control of it.

the change is not just the money but how it's handled. arkansas's "official" nil collective is handled thru charities. they get the money and pay the players for appearances, etc.

most of the other schools in the conference collectives are true bagman operations. run by third party, for profit entities that direct the 'donations' where the givers want it to go.

what this probably means is the money given will go straight to the football team. the collective needs to be setup, more than likely being done so now. i think that's why pittman said he goofed up when talking about it at his presser.

Biddy discussed this in his walk and talk.  The charity thing doesn't work and is an anachronism.  The bigtime schools use this collective concept which is like a Razorback Foundation for players.  The money is more straight to the players without true NIL requirements like showing up for a Realtor convention.  It's true bag money.  At some point there needs to be some regulation and total transparency.  Player funds should be public.  They are pros. 

The collectives have websites that allow you small folks to simply donate.  Skip Starbucks today and send your hogs 10 bucks. 

Texzilla

Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 20, 2023, 09:21 PMI interrupted it as "Be lucky for what you got," however, you could also interrupt it as, he is not changing his staff.

Either way, we are fucked.

He would never fire Kennedy.  That's his protege.  Maybe in 20 years he can be a shitty head coach somewhere.  I predict Guiton remains the OC.  Lord help us.

I did say I liked Sam and wanted him to retire with some grace and honor.  I fucking now hate his big titty ass, his stupid col beer and jukebox shit, his love of the helmet,  all his shit.  I now hate him more than Chad and one notch below Hootie.  I hope he goes 0-12.  Go fuck yourself Sam.

TC

This is Nutt 2.0 all over again, and like BigPale said, Houston was a better head coach than Sam is.

Sams gonna eek out a 7 win season next year by the hair of his chin and will probably get another extension. Because fuck ya'll Hog fans, your expectations are too high!

I'm done with this program. All except for women's soccer because I hear you get a badge after attending 2 games.

 

Pig Benis

The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

Lurk

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 20, 2023, 09:33 PMHe would never fire Kennedy.  That's his protege.  Maybe in 20 years he can be a shitty head coach somewhere.  I predict Guiton remains the OC.  Lord help us.

I did say I liked Sam and wanted him to retire with some grace and honor.  I fucking now hate his big titty ass, his stupid col beer and jukebox shit, his love of the helmet,  all his shit.  I now hate him more than Chad and one notch below Hootie.  I hope he goes 0-12.  Go fuck yourself Sam.
It's good to see you getting in the holiday spirit.  :)
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Texzilla

Happy Thanksgiving to all!  Hope you have family and friends without too much stress from a drunk in-law or weird ass dishes you wife makes you try. 

Pumpkin Escobar

Quote from: TC on Nov 20, 2023, 09:49 PMThis is Nutt 2.0 all over again, and like BigPale said, Houston was a better head coach than Sam is.

Sams gonna eek out a 7 win season next year by the hair of his chin and will probably get another extension. Because fuck ya'll Hog fans, your expectations are too high!

I'm done with this program. All except for women's soccer because I hear you get a badge after attending 2 games.

 

I have a hard time seeing 7 wins, next season. I'm not sure if these defensive coaches stick around for this shitshow.
An rud nach leigheasann im ná uisce beatha níl aon leigheas air.

Sus-Scrofa


Mopork

Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Nov 20, 2023, 07:07 PMWhat pisses more people off, way more than what missouris is or isn't rated, is watching the coach nobody wanted because he had one time worn cornrows be within a Joe Theisman type injury away from possibly playing for a championship.

Fuck this weak shit.
I agree 100000%. Norvell was begging for the job. 10-2 at Memphis. Young offensive minded coach. And we pick a total dipshit who honestly thought he and his family were just a little too good for this job and state. Same dipshit that barely wins 7 at SMU and our media acts like that's some monumental accomplishment. Norvell beat his ass 66-45 that year. Think of where we would be now if we hire Norvell in 2017.

Guardrail

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 20, 2023, 09:33 PMHe would never fire Kennedy.  That's his protege.  Maybe in 20 years he can be a shitty head coach somewhere.  I predict Guiton remains the OC.  Lord help us.

I did say I liked Sam and wanted him to retire with some grace and honor.  I fucking now hate his big titty ass, his stupid col beer and jukebox shit, his love of the helmet,  all his shit.  I now hate him more than Chad and one notch below Hootie.  I hope he goes 0-12.  Go fuck yourself Sam.
Hallelujah, holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

This made me laugh first thing this morning.  :this_is_woopig:
The same people demanding everyone embrace your beliefs, have zero tolerance and condemn another for embracing theirs.  Oh, the irony.

Pinkphiloyd

Quote from: animal on Nov 20, 2023, 06:47 PMMaybe they can sell access to the play calling and game time decisions. Crucial 4th and 1 decision, tits sweating...Sam gives the signal. Let's have Bob from Magnolia make that call.

You could put 4 plays up on the Jumbotron and let everybody vote from their phones.

No, wait...shit.  No cell service.  Never mind.

Show-Me Hog

Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 20, 2023, 08:42 PMI don't think there is anything "assholy" about those statements.  Enlighten me.  What am I missing?

It's not exactly "assholy" but it's not good.

I am sure at some point you have done performance reviews with an employee. Let's say you're doing one with an employee who really missed the mark this year. A paralegal who could not get things ready for filing. A secretary who could not write in English.

So you're going over those things with the employee, and being direct that they really need to be improved, or you might have to find someone else for the position. If their response is, "if you replace me, you're rolling the dice it might get worse," what's your confidence that the employee is getting it and will try hard to improve? Low to very low, I would think.

The Whyte Boar

Sam's comments make it easy to see why we always do so poorly and come out flat after a good game.  Just last week he was poor mouthing it and getting pissy about reporters asking him about his job.  Now, less than a week later after getting word he is going to be retained and beating up on the crippled kid, he's all happy and taking shots at the thought we might need a change.  He can't keep his eye on the ball.  He worries about people talking about his titties.  He worries about people talking about his job security.  When good things happen, it's clear he spends the week sniffing his own farts and reading press clippings. 

I mean I know it's useless to compare him to Saban or even Petrino, but can you imagine either if those guys saying some of the stuff he has said? 

The dude is Houston Nutt in a more likable package.  We'll see how that package looks Friday night and next year.

mde114

Speaking of Friday, I have never wanted to beat Missouri more.

It's a damn shame.