The BMFP IS in the Room Part II

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hit_that_line

Nutt is the fourth best coach we've ever had.

Texzilla

Quote from: animal on Nov 30, 2023, 06:31 AMIn fairness to Pittman there are a good many head coaches that their undoing was coordinators moving on and they are left in the wilds to figure the shit out on their own. Having a former head coach there to lean on is going to be an enormous help especially when it comes to how to organize the entire program which I'm guessing needs some attention to detail. Bobby has already said he will install the offense and even managed to dig in that it WILL be a 100% by the first game.

I hope he's not referencing our shitty o talent and planning only six plays.

Texzilla

Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 29, 2023, 10:54 PMIt is a good move. I see no downside. Ignore those who say that Petrino must be shunned for all time. It's cruelty to punish him for life.

Petrino served his punishment. Time to move on from that old issue IMHO.

We don't keep most murderers in prison 14 years.  Time to forgive and move on.  He paid a far bigger price than fucking perverts like Freeze.  Let's win some football.

red death

If Sam really wants to win me back let Petrino have a segment on the coaches show diagramming and explaining his beautiful offensive mind. 

God I miss watching him teach offense.  That's how you know you're dealing with a genus.
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Jean Lafitte

Is there a concern among some of the faithful that Coach Pittman harbors some personal dislike of this new situation? Perhaps he feels that his pride or prestige is harmed? His Ego is bruised, perhaps? My take is that, if Coach Pittman were a young coach, sure, he would harbor such negative feelings. I'm kind of an old guy. Coach Pittman is like me in that respect. If I were Coach Pittman, my view would be that I'm not far from my last day of coaching at this level - because I am OLD. I would welcome Petrino's entry on the stage and I would welcome his energy and enthusiasm and skill. Makes MY job a bit more easy! AND if my W/L record as head coach in 2024 is not pleasing to the folks that rule Arkansas Football, and they decide to put me out to pasture, well, I'd be glad that Arkansas would have a strong candidate to replace me already in the building.

Does Sam Pittman have some level of personal pride that would be an obstacle to trying to make this arrangement work? I don't think so. Not at THIS stage of his coaching career.

Thoughts?
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Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 30, 2023, 09:52 AMIs there a concern among some of the faithful that Coach Pittman harbors some personal dislike of this new situation? Perhaps he feels that his pride or prestige is harmed? His Ego is bruised, perhaps? My take is that, if Coach Pittman were a young coach, sure, he would harbor such negative feelings. I'm kind of an old guy. Coach Pittman is like me in that respect. If I were Coach Pittman, my view would be that I'm not far from my last day of coaching at this level - because I am OLD. I would welcome Petrino's entry on the stage and I would welcome his energy and enthusiasm and skill. Makes MY job a bit more easy! AND if my W/L record as head coach in 2024 is not pleasing to the folks that rule Arkansas Football, and they decide to put me out to pasture, well, I'd be glad that Arkansas would have a strong candidate to replace me already in the building.

Does Sam Pittman have some level of personal pride that would be an obstacle to trying to make this arrangement work? I don't think so. Not at THIS stage of his coaching career.

Thoughts?

Like most everyone here, I don't know Pittman personally.  But I think he is breathing a sigh of relief.  The monkey is off his back, at least for the next couple of years.  In fact, he may be happier about this hire than we are. As he should be.
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https://x.com/HogsPlus/status/1730231559830077626?


This confirms my thinking, at least in my own mind.  If Pittman initiated the conversation about hiring him, he understands he needed him.
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bigpig

Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 30, 2023, 10:18 AMhttps://x.com/HogsPlus/status/1730231559830077626?


This confirms my thinking, at least in my own mind.  If Pittman initiated the conversation about hiring him, he understands he needed him.

It's so great to hear him talk again. I've spent a decade avoiding everything I could about him because I was so frustrated with how it all went down.
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bigpig

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 30, 2023, 09:18 AMNutt is the fourth best coach we've ever had.

The drop off from #3 to #4 is like the mariana trench, and the gap between #4 and #5 is not big at all.
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Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 30, 2023, 09:18 AMNutt is the fourth best coach we've ever had.

By what metric? Winning percentage would put him 5th if you go back to Broyles. 8th if you include every coach that coached 2+ seasons.

bigpig

Quote from: Hogworth Ballington III on Nov 30, 2023, 11:12 AMBy what metric? Winning percentage would put him 5th if you go back to Broyles. 8th if you include every coach that coached 2+ seasons.

Actually now that you say that I realize I forgot about Hatfield.

#1 Frank
#2 Holtz
#3 Petrino
#4 Hatfield
#5 Dale
#6 The rest
#X Chad at the bottom
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Quote from: bigpig on Nov 30, 2023, 11:37 AMActually now that you say that I realize I forgot about Hatfield.

#1 Frank
#2 Holtz
#3 Petrino
#4 Hatfield
#5 Dale
#6 The rest
#X Chad at the bottom

Chaggie only gets a dishonorable mention, not actually on the list
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Quote from: Jean Lafitte on Nov 30, 2023, 09:52 AMIs there a concern among some of the faithful that Coach Pittman harbors some personal dislike of this new situation? Perhaps he feels that his pride or prestige is harmed? His Ego is bruised, perhaps? My take is that, if Coach Pittman were a young coach, sure, he would harbor such negative feelings. I'm kind of an old guy. Coach Pittman is like me in that respect. If I were Coach Pittman, my view would be that I'm not far from my last day of coaching at this level - because I am OLD. I would welcome Petrino's entry on the stage and I would welcome his energy and enthusiasm and skill. Makes MY job a bit more easy! AND if my W/L record as head coach in 2024 is not pleasing to the folks that rule Arkansas Football, and they decide to put me out to pasture, well, I'd be glad that Arkansas would have a strong candidate to replace me already in the building.

Does Sam Pittman have some level of personal pride that would be an obstacle to trying to make this arrangement work? I don't think so. Not at THIS stage of his coaching career.

Thoughts?
If I'm not mistaken, Bobby is older than Sam by a few months.

BASS

Quote from: animal on Nov 30, 2023, 06:31 AMIn fairness to Pittman there are a good many head coaches that their undoing was coordinators moving on and they are left in the wilds to figure the shit out on their own. Having a former head coach there to lean on is going to be an enormous help especially when it comes to how to organize the entire program which I'm guessing needs some attention to detail. Bobby has already said he will install the offense and even managed to dig in that it WILL be a 100% by the first game.

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Quote from: red death on Nov 30, 2023, 09:31 AMIf Sam really wants to win me back let Petrino have a segment on the coaches show diagramming and explaining his beautiful offensive mind. 

God I miss watching him teach offense.  That's how you know you're dealing with a genus.

I second this.  I loved watching the guy break down and explain plays.  It was very informative while at the same time making me realize I knew even less about football than I realized.  And I don't claim to grasp much more than the basics.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 30, 2023, 11:48 AMNutt over Hatfield.

Not a chance.

Nutt would have found a way to go 7-4 against the same weak assed SWC that Hatfield faced. 

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DRYANKNPULL

I'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.

It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.

I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius.  I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.

I hope it works.

Too Big Pig

Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Nov 30, 2023, 02:50 PMI'm going to bitch about this once. Since the accident, we were told how there was no choice except to fire Petrino. Lawsuits, lying, University policy, etcetera about why. Smug, condescending, holier than thou fans and administrators claimed there was no alternative. Those of us who begged to differ were childish and just didn't understand how things work.

It was all bullshit. We fired our best football coach in two generations during his prime years of coaching. We endured over a decade of football abyss as a result of this decision that should not have been made. Now our lame duck, retirement aged coach who never had a prime is hiring a retirement aged OC who is past his prime.

I like everything about Pittman except for the fact that he isn't SEC head coaching material. I love Bobby Petrino. I think he is a football genius.  I'm going to buy tickets to watch them play next year. I really hope this works. Everyone of you fucksheads that said he couldn't coach here were wrong, and people that think like you were in charge of firing him and they are responsible for destroying our football program while we were competing for SEC championships. Everybody who thought that has a looser mentality and we lost because of it.

I hope it works.


Thank you for typing my exact thoughts.
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