Razorback Football

Started by Silence Of The Hams, Mar 08, 2023, 03:32 PM

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Pinkphiloyd

Quote from: Pinkphiloyd on Aug 23, 2023, 06:30 PMI heard Enos has openly remarked a couple of times what a monster the d-line is.  That makes me worry that it's not that the d-line is that good but that the o-line is that bad.  But Dan knows a little more about it than I do, I guess.

In second thought, maybe Dan doesn't...

Lurk

It's time to get rid of Kennedy at the very least. It's like they players are trying to get him fired. Also may be time for a youth movement on the OL and play for next year. They couldn't play any worse than the upperclassmen.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

hit_that_line

Quote from: Lurk on Sep 19, 2023, 01:07 PMIt's time to get rid of Kennedy at the very least. It's like they players are trying to get him fired. Also may be time for a youth movement on the OL and play for next year. They couldn't play any worse than the upperclassmen.
Chamblee was getting abused all night. Kutas was terrible against Kent State. We're just screwed.

HughJasole

Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 19, 2023, 12:10 PMI'm going to give a bold prediction that BYU has ended the Pittman era, unless we win 8 or more.

It's just not a loss you have at home in your 4th year with a senior QB like KJ.

HY isn't dumb, he's always struck me as forward thinking and business over personal.

He just needed a guy to stabilize the program, which thanks to Pittman, has made the job much more attractive. He could think like few of us, we saw Pittman's ceiling and it's time for someone else in order to take the next step.

Example Mike Anderson, and now he wants to find his football Muss.



The problem is, who is that football Muss that is out there waiting in the wings?

Even though we hadn't been relevant in 20-plus years when Muss got here, being the basketball aficionado he is, he knew what we were capable of based on what Eddie and Nolan accomplished here, which was being a consistent top 25 team and could make multiple Final Fours, and win a national title.

Whereas everyone knows what we are capable of in football, which is pretty much perpetual mediocrity. No coach under 50 remembers Arkansas as anything other than an also-ran in the SEC.

I'm not saying that HY couldn't find someone who is hungry enough and ready to take this head-on, I just don't think there's someone who could do it as fast as Muss did in basketball.

egregious

Maybe we can try a DC the next time we are looking.  Since we can't seem to get an OL anyway, let's shoot for tackling prowess and maybe having the head guy know about that will help.
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piglosopher

Quote from: HughJasole on Sep 19, 2023, 02:29 PMThe problem is, who is that football Muss that is out there waiting in the wings?

Even though we hadn't been relevant in 20-plus years when Muss got here, being the basketball aficionado he is, he knew what we were capable of based on what Eddie and Nolan accomplished here, which was being a consistent top 25 team and could make multiple Final Fours, and win a national title.

Whereas everyone knows what we are capable of in football, which is pretty much perpetual mediocrity. No coach under 50 remembers Arkansas as anything other than an also-ran in the SEC.

I'm not saying that HY couldn't find someone who is hungry enough and ready to take this head-on, I just don't think there's someone who could do it as fast as Muss did in basketball.

Muss might be a bad example as I think the guy is at least in the top 5 of current college coaches, and you're right, we probably won't get a top 5 football coach ever at this point. We had one in Petrino but I digress.

Point being, he might feel it's time to find someone with a higher ceiling than Pittman. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a move if the year goes the way it's looking to be, and if the other openings aren't more attractive.


HughJasole

Quote from: piglosopher on Sep 19, 2023, 02:39 PMMuss might be a bad example as I think the guy is at least in the top 5 of current college coaches, and you're right, we probably won't get a top 5 football coach ever at this point. We had one in Petrino but I digress.

Point being, he might feel it's time to find someone with a higher ceiling than Pittman. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a move if the year goes the way it's looking to be, and if the other openings aren't more attractive.



And Jeff Long lucked into Petrino by the fact his Falcons team cratered once Mike Vick went to prison. Otherwise we would've hired Jim Grobe and would've really been in the gutter fast.

Ray Zorback

Quote from: HughJasole on Sep 19, 2023, 02:29 PMwho is that football Muss that is out there waiting in the wings?
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BleedinRed

Quote from: HughJasole on Sep 19, 2023, 02:42 PMOtherwise we would've hired Jim Grobe and would've really been in the gutter fast.

Hard to believe the last 20 years could have been worse but you laid out the scenario.  Good gawd...

piglosopher

I thought his wanting to hire Les Miles was a ploy or decoy to force LSU's hand in extending Miles. I mean, everyone knows the jab "Les with more". A 4d chess move.

But no, evidentially they were buddy buddy and he couldn't wait to hire the guy at Kansas. We saw how that turned out.

I really, really dislike Jeff Long.

TC

Quote from: red death on Sep 17, 2023, 01:54 PMI'm just going to go ahead and say I can't afford it.

 :thumb_up:

animal

Someone that is focused on wins and demanding his players piss excellence and that this game is not just about fun and playing grab ass. That the games are easier than the practices etc etc. That's the coach we need. Those guys are out there...do any of them want to go coach at Arkansas? Who the fuck knows. We aren't there yet anyway. 

I think Pittman is here another season unless we just lay turds the rest of the season. Anything less than a shitty bowl should be grounds for termination but might not be because we're Arkansas. Someone will always find an excuse. I think the real question here is do the players really fucking love Pittman or not....they play much harder for him than anyone ever dreamed of playing for Chad. That much I'll say but it's possible if we take some L's in the next few games that people start to check out.

We lost against BYU flat out because of lack of execution and shitty decision making by the coaches. You can't really do much about shitty coaching decisions ruled by emotions but you can catch the catchable balls. You can clean up the penalties. You can fight for extra yardage and treat every inch like it really fucking means something. You can run to the sticks on a 3rd and 8 and so on....that's shitty execution and coaching. YOU CAN'T do much for shitty spots or penalties though. I think the analytics will show that we are losing on 1st down just like we often did under Briles direction of the offense.



"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

BleedinRed

The program sucks.  History shows that we won't hire or keep the right coach.  We need to stop talking about it and accept the reality.  No more delusion.  Year in and year out we are worse than Memphis and a big maybe better than Vandy.  

Against every SEC team, over the last 10 games we have a winning record against two teams.  Ole Miss and South Carolina must feel terrible about themselves.

We are not a good football program.  Full stop.  End of story.  Shut it the fuck down.


TeamWinsLossesLast 10 Matchups (except Bama)
Alabama7260 - 16 since the last win
Auburn12192 - 8
Florida2101 - 9
Georgia4121 - 9
LSU23423 - 7
Tennessee6135 - 5
Missouri4102 - 7
Ole Miss37316 - 4
Miss State18143 - 7
South Carolina14106 - 4
Texas A&M42331 - 9
Vandy730 - 1 since 2011

hit_that_line

The tide will turn as soon as Rick B quits attending games.

DrMongoose

Quote from: hit_that_line on Sep 19, 2023, 04:27 PMThe tide will turn as soon as Rick B quits attending games.

oh, and to think we thought it was the selling of Pepsi products but now that we sell Coke, it is obvious it's a Rick B problem.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

egregious

Quote from: BleedinRed on Sep 19, 2023, 04:25 PMAgainst every SEC team, over the last 10 games we have a winning record against two teams.

I know that is spread over different years but that is 30-86 or close to it if you add all those up.  I wonder how we ever get any hype outside the state, probably just building us up to pump up wins over us.  We are the Washington Generals almost.
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rzrbkfan69

Quote from: HughJasole on Sep 19, 2023, 02:29 PMThe problem is, who is that football Muss that is out there waiting in the wings?


I'm not saying that HY couldn't find someone who is hungry enough and ready to take this head-on, I just don't think there's someone who could do it as fast as Muss did in basketball.

Just spitballing here, but maybe the Kansas coach, Lance Leipold. If he can make Kansas respectable, maybe he has the hunger to take on our job.

DrMongoose

#1337
Everything is fine, didn't you hear that at the LRTC.

"People say 'what's the matter with our football program?' " Yurachek said. "Quite honestly, I don't know that anything is the matter with our program but just normal football issues. Absolutely, we have some inexperience on our offensive line.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Third_down_draw

Quote from: DrMongoose on Sep 19, 2023, 04:40 PMEverything is fine, didn't you hear that at the LRTC.

"People say 'what's the matter with our football program?' " Yurachek said. "Quite honestly, I don't know that anything is the matter with our program but just normal football issues. Absolutely, we have some inexperience on our offensive line.

It's a 2 chin strap league boys. 

Doc Hogaday

Quote from: uagrad2007 on Sep 19, 2023, 11:52 AMAnother Dan Skipper with a brain would help.  We don't need the amount of stupid decisions he made like late hits, unsportsmanlike penalties, etc. 

Fucking thank you. The love for Skipper amongst Razorback fans baffles me. Fuck that guy til the end of the earth.
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