Razorback Football

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Show-Me Hog

Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 23, 2024, 12:39 AMJimmy Johnson, Saban, and other greats always say the key to winning is "have better players".  Better talent properly coached is far more important than scheme.  Meaning the correct culture, accountability, and focus. 

If you gave Sam Pittman the 62 Packers or 93 Cowboys or 85 Bears they would all have losing records.  The man is a lousy excuse for a coach; I put him below John L and Duddy Waller.  Incompetent, inept, lazy.  A true shitbag.

Can you elaborate more on how you feel about Sam Pittman? I don't think I've gotten it the first 9,000 times you said it.

Usafhawg

Asks for a link showing where he said he would win the Heisman.

Quote from: hit_that_line on Oct 22, 2024, 03:12 PMLink to where I said he would win a Heisman? You know you are absolutely dominated by someone when you have to resort to silly lies. On your deathbed you'll still be angry at the thought of me. I fucking own you for life.

Is presented with the link to show his stupid remark.

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 27, 2023, 11:40 AMLebby and Briles gonna have KJ as a Heisman finalist next year.

Totally ignores the link and spews some other nonsense.

Quote from: hit_that_line on Oct 22, 2024, 05:23 PMWake me up when Green approaches KJ's 2021 or 22 rating. Handpicked by your savior lol.
God you are so woefully mediocre.


DirkPiggler

Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 23, 2024, 12:39 AMJimmy Johnson, Saban, and other greats always say the key to winning is "have better players".  Better talent properly coached is far more important than scheme.  Meaning the correct culture, accountability, and focus. 

If you gave Sam Pittman the 62 Packers or 93 Cowboys or 85 Bears they would all have losing records.  The man is a lousy excuse for a coach; I put him below John L and Duddy Waller.  Incompetent, inept, lazy.  A true shitbag.

The "Jimmies and Joes" trope is one of the worst, most misused quotes ever uttered in sports.  Every time one of those coaches said that it was to deflect attention from themselves or to keep from embarrassing a less talented coach they had just beaten badly.  Context matters. 

Obviously having more talent is better.  Ed O, Les Miles and Larry Coker each won titles with talented rosters they had little to do with acquiring.   Those guys also fell on their asses with teams more talented than any we have ever had.  Give Saban equal or slightly lesser talent than any of those guys and he's kicking their asses 90+% of the time. 

Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

The Whyte Boar

The talent is kind of a given.  All the players are talented in the SEC.  Sure, some are better and some teams have more of the really talented players, but coaching makes the difference.

Petrino had a really good system and plan for Arkansas where he concentrated on the measurables of players.  He recruited players of certain heights, weights, and speed and then coached them up.  How many times did we see him be the first major school to offer a guy only to have schools like Alabama come in and offer later.  And our three stars played like four and five stars. 

Anyway, we have the talent to be a 9 or 10 win team.  We ain't Georgia and we might not ever be, but it just sickens mento see how many people seem to think we should be haply and lucky to squeak out six or seven.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Usafhawg on Oct 23, 2024, 06:25 AMAsks for a link showing where he said he would win the Heisman.

Is presented with the link to show his stupid remark.

Totally ignores the link and spews some other nonsense.


He's the Nupro of message boards.

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Different.

Pig Benis

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 23, 2024, 07:31 AMThe talent is kind of a given.  All the players are talented in the SEC.  Sure, some are better and some teams have more of the really talented players, but coaching makes the difference.

Petrino had a really good system and plan for Arkansas where he concentrated on the measurables of players.  He recruited players of certain heights, weights, and speed and then coached them up.  How many times did we see him be the first major school to offer a guy only to have schools like Alabama come in and offer later.  And our three stars played like four and five stars. 

Anyway, we have the talent to be a 9 or 10 win team.  We ain't Georgia and we might not ever be, but it just sickens mento see how many people seem to think we should be haply and lucky to squeak out six or seven.

I don't think we should be happy with that but the athletic dept does which is why I agreed with a previous poster about shifting all the resources to basketball and baseball.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

vegashog

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 23, 2024, 07:31 AMThe talent is kind of a given.  All the players are talented in the SEC.  Sure, some are better and some teams have more of the really talented players, but coaching makes the difference.

Petrino had a really good system and plan for Arkansas where he concentrated on the measurables of players.  He recruited players of certain heights, weights, and speed and then coached them up.  How many times did we see him be the first major school to offer a guy only to have schools like Alabama come in and offer later.  And our three stars played like four and five stars. 

Anyway, we have the talent to be a 9 or 10 win team.  We ain't Georgia and we might not ever be, but it just sickens mento see how many people seem to think we should be haply and lucky to squeak out six or seven.

our offense is ass. 17.5 points per in conference. 24 against an auburn team that turned it over 6 times.

is that because of coaching or talent?

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 23, 2024, 09:38 AMour offense is ass. 17.5 points per in conference. 24 against an auburn team that turned it over 6 times.

is that because of coaching or talent?

Coaching, lack of execution.  Lots of plays there to be made with receivers running wide open, but Green is not seeing them and/or making the throws.  He is not there yet.  Blame that on coaching if you want.  If he and the coaches are here next year, he'll probably be greatly improved. 

The second issue is turnovers short circuit the offense, and at particularly inopportune times. 

vegashog

well i really wasn't trying to blame the coaching, just trying to make a point that the coaching/talent thing will always involve some goalpost moving.

if green can't see the progressions, then it's talent, right? i have no doubt he's getting some of the best qb coaching that he can.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 23, 2024, 09:49 AMwell i really wasn't trying to blame the coaching, just trying to make a point that the coaching/talent thing will always involve some goalpost moving.

if green can't see the progressions, then it's talent, right? i have no doubt he's getting some of the best qb coaching that he can.

I don't know about that.  If he gets it next year and sees everything will he be more talented next year than he was this year or just more comfortable?


Pig Benis

The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

The Whyte Boar

DJ brings up the lack of a kicker.  It is killing us.  We are 2nd in the conference in first downs and danged near last in the country on scoring efficiency in the red zone.  LSU stalled out the other night over and over but they would always get points because they had a competent kicker.

Really not much excuse for not having a kicker at this level.

Feral

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 23, 2024, 09:42 AMThe second issue is turnovers short circuit the offense, and at particularly inopportune times. 

Turnovers seem to plague us in the Pittman era.

Outside of the 2021 team, I'd be willing to wager that all of his teams had a negative or near neutral turnover margin.

Feral

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 23, 2024, 10:44 AMDJ brings up the lack of a kicker.  It is killing us.  We are 2nd in the conference in first downs and danged near last in the country on scoring efficiency in the red zone.  LSU stalled out the other night over and over but they would always get points because they had a competent kicker.

Really not much excuse for not having a kicker at this level.

We're very likely a 6-1 team with Cam Little.

Mazeppa Pompazoidi

Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 23, 2024, 12:39 AMIf you gave Sam Pittman the 62 Packers or 93 Cowboys or 85 Bears they would all have losing records.  The man is a lousy excuse for a coach; I put him below John L and Duddy Waller.  Incompetent, inept, lazy.  A true shitbag.

I nominate this post for the Eat Up With The Dumbass award for 2024.

The Whyte Boar

Well, judging by the traffic here and on other boards, nobody gives a shit about Arkansas football.  Way to go Hunter...Tittboss.

gorillawarfare

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 23, 2024, 09:42 AMCoaching, lack of execution.  Lots of plays there to be made with receivers running wide open, but Green is not seeing them and/or making the throws.  He is not there yet.  Blame that on coaching if you want.  If he and the coaches are here next year, he'll probably be greatly improved. 

The second issue is turnovers short circuit the offense, and at particularly inopportune times. 

Green turns touchdowns / first downs into 6 yard gains by throwing poorly timed inaccurate throws all the fucking time. That is when he's not hanging WRs out to dry.   His legs are his game.  Not accurate or on time enough to run petrinos offense.  I'm ready to give Singleton some run and see if he can get the ball out on time.

Lurk

Quote from: gorillawarfare on Oct 23, 2024, 05:12 PMGreen turns touchdowns / first downs into 6 yard gains by throwing poorly timed inaccurate throws all the fucking time. That is when he's not hanging WRs out to dry.   His legs are his game.  Not accurate or on time enough to run petrinos offense.  I'm ready to give Singleton some run and see if he can get the ball out on time.
He hasn't improved any. Make a change and at least see if Singleton or the freshman can do anything.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

Ray Zorback

Kennesaw State is beating Liberty and has a kicker that is 11 for 11.
irritatingly incompetent & infuriatingly unhelpful

Feral

Quote from: Ray Zorback on Oct 23, 2024, 09:00 PMKennesaw State is beating Liberty and has a kicker that is 11 for 11.

Is he interested in portaling? Doubt he'd want to take a step down but it's worth a shot.