Fayette Villains…In Depth Analysis

Started by Thin Red Swine, Sep 03, 2023, 05:22 PM

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Feral

Quote from: animal on Oct 05, 2023, 08:36 PMEnos I don't really blame because he is who we thought he is. This same exact thing happened when he came the first time and by midseason the team figured some things out, the schedule got a bit softer, and we cranked out some wins. The same thing could happen this season but thus far I'm not that optimstic because the one variable missing is an experienced offensive line. He had it then but not now...our only hope is some things start to click in or the coaches find some "gamers" that maybe haven't had their shot yet. I doubt it though.

I sort of held on to the rope after LSU thinking "well, we sucked ass at the beginning of 2015 and were one of the best offenses in the SEC by season's end." That's foolish thinking on my part.

To your point, the difference is that 2015 offensive line was special. You had two 3 year guys in Skipper and Kirkland, a future Pro Bowler in Ragnow (soph), and Tretola. This year's line would piss their pants if those guys walked up on them in the streets.

Lurk

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 05, 2023, 09:34 PMKJ ain't as good as Brandon Allen was either.  Brandon didn't have the physical tools KJ does, but he was far better at running an offense like Enos'.
Give him a few more games to see if we turn it around, but at some point seat playing for next year. See what Criswell or the freshman
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Feral on Oct 05, 2023, 09:54 PMI sort of held on to the rope after LSU thinking "well, we sucked ass at the beginning of 2015 and were one of the best offenses in the SEC by season's end." That's foolish thinking on my part.

To your point, the difference is that 2015 offensive line was special. You had two 3 year guys in Skipper and Kirkland, a future Pro Bowler in Ragnow (soph), and Tretola. This year's line would piss their pants if those guys walked up on them in the streets.

Interesting comparison. We HAD a Henry-esque tight end this year, but not really an Alex Collins. But mostly, it's our paper doll line and COBOL processing QB in a Python era.

animal

The thing with KJ is everyone acts like the long developing plays began this season. We were often letting our WRs run down the field for long stretches and KJ launching. Remember the "fuck it Treylon down there somewhere"...those plays weren't done in a blink of an eye.

KJ is being asked to read defenses and make his progressions while in the pocket where as in the past things were probably much more cut in dry where if the pass to the primary wasn't there you go into run mode. RPO. If Enos had a couple years to work with him then maybe he could make something out of the guy but thus far all he's done is tell pro scouts the dude isn't an NFL QB.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Feral

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 05, 2023, 11:11 PMBut mostly, it's our paper doll line and COBOL processing QB in a Python era.

As someone who works in IT, hats off to you sir for this reference. I chortled.

BASS

Quote from: Feral on Oct 06, 2023, 07:23 AMAs someone who works in IT, hats off to you sir for this reference. I chortled.

Me too
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Ain't found a way to kill me yet
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woodhog14

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 05, 2023, 09:34 PMKJ ain't as good as Brandon Allen was either.  Brandon didn't have the physical tools KJ does, but he was far better at running an offense like Enos'.
Brandon Allen also wasn't getting hit every other time he dropped back like KJ. That team gave up like only 13 sacks all year.

The OL this year gave up 11 sacks in the last two games.


vegashog

Quote from: woodhog14 on Oct 06, 2023, 08:53 AMBrandon Allen also wasn't getting hit every other time he dropped back like KJ. That team gave up like only 13 sacks all year.

The OL this year gave up 11 sacks in the last two games.

don't let this get in the way.

Texzilla

Quote from: animal on Oct 06, 2023, 06:35 AMThe thing with KJ is everyone acts like the long developing plays began this season. We were often letting our WRs run down the field for long stretches and KJ launching. Remember the "fuck it Treylon down there somewhere"...those plays weren't done in a blink of an eye.

KJ is being asked to read defenses and make his progressions while in the pocket where as in the past things were probably much more cut in dry where if the pass to the primary wasn't there you go into run mode. RPO. If Enos had a couple years to work with him then maybe he could make something out of the guy but thus far all he's done is tell pro scouts the dude isn't an NFL QB.


That's putting together dumb and dumber.  Enos working with KJ would result in exactly what you saw last Saturday. 

Based on Enos stupid email responses, he will never put kj under center and never run a qb sneak on fourth and inches.  Ficking idiot.  On many counts.

Third_down_draw

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 05, 2023, 11:11 PMInteresting comparison. We HAD a Henry-esque tight end this year, but not really an Alex Collins. But mostly, it's our paper doll line and COBOL processing QB in a Python era.

We don't need a thread about KJ's Python.

Feral

Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 06, 2023, 09:28 AMBased on Enos stupid email responses, he will never put kj under center and never run a qb sneak on fourth and inches.  Ficking idiot.  On many counts.

This.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that he was emailing students or what was in them.

Likely the latter since the dumbass thinks NOT lining up in the shotgun on 4th and short is idiotic.

He should be fired, not for the act of emailing students, but for knowing less about situational football than someone who can't legally consume alcohol.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 06, 2023, 09:32 AMWe don't need a thread about KJ's Python.

You never watched Snakes on a Plane, did you?

BleedinRed

Quote from: Third_down_draw on Oct 06, 2023, 09:32 AMWe don't need a thread about KJ's Python.

I bet it's like Gary Coleman's fucking forearm.  

animal

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

buff2.0

The fact that no one on the field could see that obvious pressure coming...
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 14, 2023, 08:30 PMThe fact that no one on the field could see that obvious pressure coming...

I mean, KJ is a deer in the headlights young starter who will learn to pick that up.


Right?  Right?

Beuller?

animal

That play is irritatingly retarded. If the ball was placed in the center of the field all 11 on offense would have been between the hashes. That was a needlessly tight formation with exactly no hope of doing anything. With that play design it virtually assures you'll have 11 in the box against your elite run/pass blockers offering zero misdirection...just drop back and wait for the tight-end #44 to completely blow blocking the guy coming from the edge.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

buff2.0

Quote from: animal on Oct 15, 2023, 06:37 AMThat play is irritatingly retarded. If the ball was placed in the center of the field all 11 on offense would have been between the hashes. That was a needlessly tight formation with exactly no hope of doing anything. With that play design it virtually assures you'll have 11 in the box against your elite run/pass blockers offering zero misdirection...just drop back and wait for the tight-end #44 to completely blow blocking the guy coming from the edge.




But we ran it perfectly in practice.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar the first time his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Feral

Quote from: animal on Oct 14, 2023, 08:28 PMhttps://x.com/AdamFord92/status/1713259215026880869?s=20


Some people are better at expressing their emotions than others.

My wife knows jack shit about football, and even she keeps asking "why are they bunching everyone in so close, wouldn't that bring more defenders close to the play?"

Maybe she should email Enos.

animal

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Enos likes his window dressing so it's possible we were to line up in that tight formation and then have guys motion out of it...maybe the play clock was running down. IDK...weird but that's the only logical thing I can think of. We might have motioned into that abysmal play design...don't see the whole thing from break of the huddle to the 9 yard sack.

11 in the box but Bama still only sends like 5 people. Looks like it was meant to go to AJ Green on a little dump pass for a gain of nothing. Bama knew EXACTLY what we were going to run.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it