The Elephant in the Room Part II

Started by animal, Sep 30, 2023, 03:38 PM

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Ray Zorback

Quote from: Keyser Soooie on Nov 27, 2023, 07:31 PMY'all can absolve HY if you want, but I blame him for the buyout. There was absolutely ZERO need for it. Who in their right mind could think someone would hire him away from us?

I certainly don't think HY should be fired, but he should bare a big brunt of the blame for this dumpster fire we currently have.

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irritatingly incompetent & infuriatingly unhelpful

The Reverend SnoopHogg

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 27, 2023, 03:51 PMHoly shit now we want taxpayers to pay coaches salaries. Fuck that. I don't care if we lose every game. And only like $230k of his salary comes from the state currently.

Why don't you go over yonder and fuck off, he-bitch?

If you don't care if we lose every game, you are less than an actual longhorn fan to me.  At least they don't pretend to like the Hogs until they might have to pay $4 more in taxes.

Go root for Auburn or LSU, take your vast knowledge of football and literally everything else in the world with you.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 27, 2023, 08:11 PMAnother kid into the portal....how many more will leave. I'd say even the players lost hope in Pittman and he's not liked

"It is better to be feared than loved if you cannot be both." Machiavelli

Sam has never been feared.  He was once loved.  Because he is not feared, he is no longer respected. Since he is not respected, he is no longer loved.  Because he is not loved, he is now hated.

buff2.0

Fun stat I saw on twitter.  We're 24-74 in SEC play since we fired Bobby.  Maybe I'll just form a Mike Norvell cult and follow him around.  The Cult of the Sacred Cornrow.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 27, 2023, 08:17 PM"It is better to be feared than loved if you cannot be both." Machiavelli

Sam has never been feared.  He was once loved.  Because he is not feared, he is no longer respected. Since he is not respected, he is no longer loved.  Because he is not loved, he is now hated.
he now hated, fat and a drunk. Fat people have heart attacks all the time...maybe one takes him out before next season
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

FNG

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Nov 27, 2023, 08:17 PMSam has never been feared.  He was once loved.  Because he is not feared, he is no longer respected. Since he is not respected, he is no longer loved.  Because he is not loved, he is now hated.
As I read this, I couldn't help but imagine it as the stentorian musings of the late great Richard Burton as he pondered the skull of poor Yorick.

DrMongoose

to be clear - i'm not saying Hunter should be fired, but he got us into this mess by not thinking long term which is what his job entails as he is running a multi-million dollar business and needs to protect the stockholders' (season ticket holders and boosters) investments.
Check your damn blood pressure!

"They've got to do a better job preparing our young men and putting them in positions to be succesful." - Hunter Yurachek 9/15/25

Too Big Pig

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 27, 2023, 08:55 PMhe now hated, fat and a drunk. Fat people have heart attacks all the time...maybe one takes him out before next season

You can't wish heart attacks on people!


Strokes are your specialty.
"When life gives you lemons...fuck life"
- Sir John Michael of Oklahoma

Texzilla

The razorbacks subreddit has started deleting any post that says anything about wishing Pittman was fired, any comments about his coaching, jokes about his big tits, prospective replacements.  If you react in any way you are banned and handed over to the Reddit Nazis like I was for making "threats".  I'm in the house how for a week. 

animal

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2023, 12:20 AMThe razorbacks subreddit has started deleting any post that says anything about wishing Pittman was fired, any comments about his coaching, jokes about his big tits, prospective replacements.  If you react in any way you are banned and handed over to the Reddit Nazis like I was for making "threats".  I'm in the house how for a week. 
Yes it's people like you that are hurting recrooting.  ::)

I've noticed lately that the Razorback reddit has turned super commie but so it most of reddit.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

animal

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

woodhog14

Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 06:44 AMA look into Brendon Marion...the guy we'll probably be too cheap to bring in.
Or maybe he'll just turn us down because we are a shit show.

Texzilla

Sam is thinking Odom is his buddy here and will steer him this way.  Odom could give a shit about Sam.  "Coach O tell me what it's really like..." son if you get a shot any where else take that...

Sam's OC search is going to be worse than Aggy's HC process.  It's going to be Guiton.  What does the gig offer that's positive to any hot OC prospect?  Absolutely nothing.

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2023, 08:37 AMSam is thinking Odom is his buddy here and will steer him this way.  Odom could give a shit about Sam.  "Coach O tell me what it's really like..." son if you get a shot any where else take that...

Sam's OC search is going to be worse than Aggy's HC process.  It's going to be Guiton.  What does the gig offer that's positive to any hot OC prospect?  Absolutely nothing.
he will pick the bottom of the barrel regarding an oc..why would he pick Marion and be outshined and someone else get credit for doing more than him? He won't hire who we truly need. Fuck this entire program
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

Texzilla

Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 06:23 AMYes it's people like you that are hurting recrooting.  ::)

I've noticed lately that the Razorback reddit has turned super commie but so it most of reddit.

It's full of nutjob libs seeking an end environmental racism, trumpers, flat earthers, and sunshine and rainbows Sam lovers. 

"We need to surround Sam with (Jesus love, positive ions and feelings, undying support)".
"Sam we love you.  Greatest Hog coach ever!  Ever!"
"Why are any of you Sam haters even here?  Ho away!"

Fuck em.  They were so much fun to troll. 

Texzilla

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2023, 08:44 AMhe will pick the bottom of the barrel regarding an oc..why would he pick Marion and be outshined and someone else get credit for doing more than him? He won't hire who we truly need. Fuck this entire program

He will pick the equivalent of the Chief.  Old as fuck.  Not a threat to take his job. Or do well and leave for a bigtime hc job.

SOM

Quote from: SwahiliSteve on Nov 28, 2023, 08:44 AMhe will pick the bottom of the barrel regarding an oc..why would he pick Marion and be outshined and someone else get credit for doing more than him? He won't hire who we truly need. Fuck this entire program

Marion has better options out there. Pittman is a dead man walking at this point.

Texzilla

The Elko contract.  $7m 6years.  Wonder what they offered mark stoops to get on the plane when he makes $9m a year thru 2029?  Is that what turned the plane around.  "Coach will you take $7m a year? Fuck you turn this fucker around!"

Mike Elko contract, salary: Deal for new Texas A&M coach heavy on incentives for postseason success
By Dean Straka 
15h ago

1 min read
The Mike Elko era is underway in College Station after Texas A&M hired the now-former Duke coach and ex-Aggies defensive coordinator Monday as its replacement for Jimbo Fisher, who was fired earlier in November in his sixth season guiding the program. And after Texas A&M awarded Fisher a mammoth contract -- 10 years at $75 million on the initial deal back in 2017 -- that ended with the school owing Fisher more than $77 million in buyout money, the Aggies are taking a bit of a different approach to the terms of Elko's deal.

Shortly after the introductory press conference got underway on Monday, the terms of Elko's contract with Texas A&M were revealed. The deal is for six years at $42 million in total value, which boils down to Elko having an annual salary of $7 million. The buyout on his contract is set at flat percentage, which increases at the halfway point of the deal, and there are also plenty of incentives featured. The basic terms for the Aggies' new headman are outlined below:

Six years, $42 million total value (runs through Jan. 31, 2030)
A flat-rate buyout of 75% of the contract's remaining value in Years 1-3
A flat-rate buyout of 80% of the contract's remaining value in Years 4-6
$11,000,000 staff salary pool
As far as incentives are concerned, Elko will be awarded $50,000 if named SEC Coach of the Year and $100,000 should he win a national coach of the year award. A $100,000 paycheck also comes his way for each SEC Championship Game appearance. Beyond that, Texas A&M also has included a list of postseason incentives for Elko, which are outlined below. Should Elko achieve any of the postseason incentives, he will automatically receive a one-year contract extension.

$1 million for a CFP appearance
$1.5 million for a CFP Quarterfinals appearance and/or SEC championship
$2 million for a CFP Semifinals appearance
$2.5 million for a CFP National Championship Game appearance
$3.5 million for a CFP National Championship
Elko, who was 16-9 in two seasons as the coach at Duke, will kick off his Texas A&M tenure with a marquee home matchup as the Aggies begin the 2024 season by hosting Notre Dame on Saturday, Aug. 31. Elko served as Fighting Irish defensive coordinator in 2017 before first arriving to Texas A&M as defensive coordinator in 2018.

Lurk

Quote from: animal on Nov 28, 2023, 06:23 AMYes it's people like you that are hurting recrooting.  ::)

I've noticed lately that the Razorback reddit has turned super commie but so it most of reddit.
So that's where the incel bros went when they ran off from here.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 28, 2023, 09:09 AMThe Elko contract.  $7m 6years.  Wonder what they offered mark stoops to get on the plane when he makes $9m a year thru 2029?  Is that what turned the plane around.  "Coach will you take $7m a year? Fuck you turn this fucker around!"

Mike Elko contract, salary: Deal for new Texas A&M coach heavy on incentives for postseason success
By Dean Straka 
15h ago

1 min read
The Mike Elko era is underway in College Station after Texas A&M hired the now-former Duke coach and ex-Aggies defensive coordinator Monday as its replacement for Jimbo Fisher, who was fired earlier in November in his sixth season guiding the program. And after Texas A&M awarded Fisher a mammoth contract -- 10 years at $75 million on the initial deal back in 2017 -- that ended with the school owing Fisher more than $77 million in buyout money, the Aggies are taking a bit of a different approach to the terms of Elko's deal.

Shortly after the introductory press conference got underway on Monday, the terms of Elko's contract with Texas A&M were revealed. The deal is for six years at $42 million in total value, which boils down to Elko having an annual salary of $7 million. The buyout on his contract is set at flat percentage, which increases at the halfway point of the deal, and there are also plenty of incentives featured. The basic terms for the Aggies' new headman are outlined below:

Six years, $42 million total value (runs through Jan. 31, 2030)
A flat-rate buyout of 75% of the contract's remaining value in Years 1-3
A flat-rate buyout of 80% of the contract's remaining value in Years 4-6
$11,000,000 staff salary pool
As far as incentives are concerned, Elko will be awarded $50,000 if named SEC Coach of the Year and $100,000 should he win a national coach of the year award. A $100,000 paycheck also comes his way for each SEC Championship Game appearance. Beyond that, Texas A&M also has included a list of postseason incentives for Elko, which are outlined below. Should Elko achieve any of the postseason incentives, he will automatically receive a one-year contract extension.

$1 million for a CFP appearance
$1.5 million for a CFP Quarterfinals appearance and/or SEC championship
$2 million for a CFP Semifinals appearance
$2.5 million for a CFP National Championship Game appearance
$3.5 million for a CFP National Championship
Elko, who was 16-9 in two seasons as the coach at Duke, will kick off his Texas A&M tenure with a marquee home matchup as the Aggies begin the 2024 season by hosting Notre Dame on Saturday, Aug. 31. Elko served as Fighting Irish defensive coordinator in 2017 before first arriving to Texas A&M as defensive coordinator in 2018.

Some boosters spanked the AD for the Fisher debacle, clearly.  Massive guaranteed deal like that...

This is highly incentive laden.  Two good years and they'll get scared of losing him and overcompensate again.

Congrats to the Aggies for figuring out now to negotiate a decent contract.  They can start telling jokes about us because we gave a $13 mil as a buyout to Sam f'ing Pittman.